"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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One of the reasons that we aren't really cruising much anymore is
because we went aground the last time we came up the ICW in the middle
of the channel south of Wrightsville Beach (opposite Masonboro Inlet),
and Bob said it was too stressful to do the trip anymore.

Also of course we are getting older.


You know what they say, Rosalie, "if you haven't gone aground it's because
you haven't sailed enough." I haven't gone aground yet (knock on wood) but
I've brushed the mud a time or two. Mostly this is because I'm exceptionally
paranoid about depth. If the chart (and my depth sounder) shows less than 20
feet I don't want to be there unless I'm anchoring.

"KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
.. .
One of the reasons that we aren't really cruising much anymore is
because we went aground the last time we came up the ICW in the middle
of the channel south of Wrightsville Beach (opposite Masonboro Inlet),
and Bob said it was too stressful to do the trip anymore.

Also of course we are getting older.


You know what they say, Rosalie, "if you haven't gone aground it's because
you haven't sailed enough." I haven't gone aground yet (knock on wood) but
I've brushed the mud a time or two. Mostly this is because I'm exceptionally
paranoid about depth. If the chart (and my depth sounder) shows less than 20
feet I don't want to be there unless I'm anchoring.

What got Bob's goat was that it was in the middle of the channel where
there should have been plenty of water and the depth sounder didn't
give us any warning. No one is more paranoid about depth than he is.

We have gone aground several times, and it was never a very happy
experience although not dire in the way Skip's was.

We tried to get into Queenstown once, and got blown out of the channel
by the wind and couldn't raise anyone on the radio or phone.
Eventually we kedged off - we almost lost the dinghy in doing that
because when we got up to the anchor, Bob went to get the dinghy from
where he'd tied it and it had untied itself and was being blown away.
Bob jumped for it, and made it with just one foot getting wet.

I had my daughter and SIL out in the Patuxent, and managed to run
aground under sail while tacking. It apparently gave my SIL great
satisfaction to say that his MIL had run aground.

The first time down the ICW, we tried to go out Brunswick inlet and
when I called to Bob that we were too close to the breakers he mistook
the side that he was too close to and steered us right into the surf
line. Took all the paint off the leading edge of the keel up about a
foot.

But we've actually had more problem with wind and current than with
meeting the bottom.

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
news
"KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
. ..
One of the reasons that we aren't really cruising much anymore is
because we went aground the last time we came up the ICW in the middle
of the channel south of Wrightsville Beach (opposite Masonboro Inlet),
and Bob said it was too stressful to do the trip anymore.

Also of course we are getting older.


You know what they say, Rosalie, "if you haven't gone aground it's because
you haven't sailed enough." I haven't gone aground yet (knock on wood) but
I've brushed the mud a time or two. Mostly this is because I'm
exceptionally
paranoid about depth. If the chart (and my depth sounder) shows less than
20
feet I don't want to be there unless I'm anchoring.

What got Bob's goat was that it was in the middle of the channel where
there should have been plenty of water and the depth sounder didn't
give us any warning. No one is more paranoid about depth than he is.

We have gone aground several times, and it was never a very happy
experience although not dire in the way Skip's was.

We tried to get into Queenstown once, and got blown out of the channel
by the wind and couldn't raise anyone on the radio or phone.
Eventually we kedged off - we almost lost the dinghy in doing that
because when we got up to the anchor, Bob went to get the dinghy from
where he'd tied it and it had untied itself and was being blown away.
Bob jumped for it, and made it with just one foot getting wet.

I had my daughter and SIL out in the Patuxent, and managed to run
aground under sail while tacking. It apparently gave my SIL great
satisfaction to say that his MIL had run aground.

The first time down the ICW, we tried to go out Brunswick inlet and
when I called to Bob that we were too close to the breakers he mistook
the side that he was too close to and steered us right into the surf
line. Took all the paint off the leading edge of the keel up about a
foot.

But we've actually had more problem with wind and current than with
meeting the bottom.


I haven't been in the ICW since 1979-80, but from what I've seen on the
charts things have only gotten worse. Channels narrowing and shoaling has to
make it quite an ordeal. I'm not sure that it's worth the hassle,
personally. If I were heading south, I would seriously consider doing it
offshore -- though as I remember the Gulf Stream, that raises a whole
'nother can o worms. Is harbor hopping down the coast possible, avoiding the
ICW? Weather and GS position permitting, of course.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:


"Rosalie B." wrote in message
news
"KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
One of the reasons that we aren't really cruising much anymore is
because we went aground the last time we came up the ICW in the
middle of the channel south of Wrightsville Beach (opposite
Masonboro Inlet), and Bob said it was too stressful to do the trip
anymore.

Also of course we are getting older.


You know what they say, Rosalie, "if you haven't gone aground it's
because you haven't sailed enough." I haven't gone aground yet (knock
on wood) but I've brushed the mud a time or two. Mostly this is
because I'm exceptionally
paranoid about depth. If the chart (and my depth sounder) shows less
than 20
feet I don't want to be there unless I'm anchoring.

What got Bob's goat was that it was in the middle of the channel
where there should have been plenty of water and the depth sounder
didn't give us any warning. No one is more paranoid about depth than
he is.

We have gone aground several times, and it was never a very happy
experience although not dire in the way Skip's was.

We tried to get into Queenstown once, and got blown out of the
channel by the wind and couldn't raise anyone on the radio or phone.
Eventually we kedged off - we almost lost the dinghy in doing that
because when we got up to the anchor, Bob went to get the dinghy from
where he'd tied it and it had untied itself and was being blown away.
Bob jumped for it, and made it with just one foot getting wet.

I had my daughter and SIL out in the Patuxent, and managed to run
aground under sail while tacking. It apparently gave my SIL great
satisfaction to say that his MIL had run aground.

The first time down the ICW, we tried to go out Brunswick inlet and
when I called to Bob that we were too close to the breakers he
mistook the side that he was too close to and steered us right into
the surf line. Took all the paint off the leading edge of the keel
up about a foot.

But we've actually had more problem with wind and current than with
meeting the bottom.


I haven't been in the ICW since 1979-80, but from what I've seen on
the charts things have only gotten worse. Channels narrowing and
shoaling has to make it quite an ordeal. I'm not sure that it's worth
the hassle, personally. If I were heading south, I would seriously
consider doing it offshore -- though as I remember the Gulf Stream,
that raises a whole 'nother can o worms. Is harbor hopping down the
coast possible, avoiding the ICW? Weather and GS position permitting,
of course.

Simply get a book like Skipper Bob's Anchorages and read where the
shoaling is. You can get updates on-line. I annotate the book with the
updates and create warning symbols on the GPS course which warn me when
I'm heading into a area known to have problems. Following this
procedure I didn't have any issues this year, but I knew many people who
did and they were just following the R/Gs and didn't realize where the
shoaling was.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Geoff Schultz wrote:

Didn't Skipper Bob die? Most of the information I see now comes from
Claiborne Young

Simply get a book like Skipper Bob's Anchorages and read where the
shoaling is. You can get updates on-line. I annotate the book with the
updates and create warning symbols on the GPS course which warn me when
I'm heading into a area known to have problems. Following this
procedure I didn't have any issues this year, but I knew many people who
did and they were just following the R/Gs and didn't realize where the
shoaling was.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

I have all the charts with notations (like the new buoys north of the
Alligator River bridge and the channel that is closed in Beaufort NC.)

But in this case, we'd been in Marathon all winter and hadn't seen
anything about this particular problem although the TBUS guy said that
a lot of people had run aground there.

On Aug 5, 9:03 pm, Rosalie B. wrote:
Geoff Schultz wrote:

But in this case, we'd been in Marathon all winter and hadn't seen
anything about this particular problem


As in East jefferson HWY ????? you talkn gater tail and craaw fish
bra?

Good u not down way n ... Sulphur... Venice..... or Fouchion....
Marathon is good place. I come see yall bra.

bob

Rosalie B. wrote in
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Geoff Schultz wrote:

Didn't Skipper Bob die? Most of the information I see now comes from
Claiborne Young

Simply get a book like Skipper Bob's Anchorages and read where the
shoaling is. You can get updates on-line. I annotate the book with
the updates and create warning symbols on the GPS course which warn me
when I'm heading into a area known to have problems. Following this
procedure I didn't have any issues this year, but I knew many people
who did and they were just following the R/Gs and didn't realize where
the shoaling was.

-- Geoff

I have all the charts with notations (like the new buoys north of the
Alligator River bridge and the channel that is closed in Beaufort NC.)

But in this case, we'd been in Marathon all winter and hadn't seen
anything about this particular problem although the TBUS guy said that
a lot of people had run aground there.

Here's the Skipper Bob update on the Masonboro Inlet:

ICW, Mile 280.4, Mason Inlet

CAUTION – The channel has shoaled to 3.8' MLW on the green side near
G121 at the Mason Inlet. Stay on the red side between R122 and G123.
Use waypoint N34º 14.95 and W77º 46.98 as the deep water point on the
red side opposite the shoaling on the green side near G121. Based on
USACOE Report dated November 8, 2005. (July 16, 2006)

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Rosalie B. wrote in
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and the channel that is closed in Beaufort NC

Oh, no! That's where Skip is heading Flying Pig...(c;

Larry
--
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Oil companies don't pay taxes, just like every other company.
Consumers pay all taxes, corporate and individual.
What's the price of a gallon of regular going to go to to pay $16B more?

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:01:47 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Is harbor hopping down the coast possible, avoiding the
ICW? Weather and GS position permitting, of course.

Absolutely possible but the downside is lost time and distance going
in and out. There are also some long stretches on the Florida coast
with no inlets. We usually run these overnight and put in the next
day. Avoiding the Gulf Stream is relatively easy in most places by
staying closer to shore.

Rosalie B. wrote in
news
What got Bob's goat was that it was in the middle of the channel where
there should have been plenty of water and the depth sounder didn't
give us any warning. No one is more paranoid about depth than he is.


I drove an Endeavour 35 sloop out of the little basin at the yacht club in
Daytona Beach, followed the bouys around into the ICW to starboard to get
to the fuel dock at the marina next door. Right after I rounded up South
in the center of the channel, the boat hooked "something" like it had just
hooked a tree that nosed the old girl over and stopped her dead in her
tracks like a jet landing on a carrier snagging the cables on deck.

Florida is just terrible with a 6' keel hanging down. The keel of the Amel
Sharki 41 dragged along the bottom of Lake Worth in the middle of the
channel from one end to the other. Vary off course a little and it
grounded long before getting near the bouy line.

There aren't near enough inlets for them to escape to sea on.....


Larry
--
Democrats are raising taxes on oil companies by $16,000,000,000.
Oil companies don't pay taxes, just like every other company.
Consumers pay all taxes, corporate and individual.
What's the price of a gallon of regular going to go to to pay $16B more?