Folding Cabin table??
 

I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against the
fwd cabin bulkhead??

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

Has anyone ever used or crewed on a boat with the free end of the table
suspended rather than a leg support??

Thoughts and suggestions?

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Steve,
I've not seen one in the flesh, but remember seeing a description of one
(probably single leaf, but same principle) in a magazine. It would probably
be more secure; main difference, obstructions would be above the table
rather than below.
On my old boat, table was fixed. There was a leaf of equal size, which of
course had to fold on top rather than below, The support for the leaf was
removable. There was a piece of threaded rod set in the top end, which
screwed into the threaded hole in a ss plate flush mounted in the middle of
the leaf. A ss pin on the bottom of the leg fitting into a hole in the sole
would give more security.
Just some ideas.
Garland
"Steve" wrote in message
...
I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against
the
fwd cabin bulkhead??

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a
main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd
settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I
was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

Has anyone ever used or crewed on a boat with the free end of the table
suspended rather than a leg support??

Thoughts and suggestions?

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Steve,
I've not seen one in the flesh, but remember seeing a description of one
(probably single leaf, but same principle) in a magazine. It would probably
be more secure; main difference, obstructions would be above the table
rather than below.
On my old boat, table was fixed. There was a leaf of equal size, which of
course had to fold on top rather than below, The support for the leaf was
removable. There was a piece of threaded rod set in the top end, which
screwed into the threaded hole in a ss plate flush mounted in the middle of
the leaf. A ss pin on the bottom of the leg fitting into a hole in the sole
would give more security.
Just some ideas.
Garland
"Steve" wrote in message
...
I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against
the
fwd cabin bulkhead??

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a
main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd
settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I
was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

Has anyone ever used or crewed on a boat with the free end of the table
suspended rather than a leg support??

Thoughts and suggestions?

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Don't have a complete understanding of what you're trying to do, but my
table has 9" wide extensions on each long side that fold onto the top of a
laminated center section. (Not underneath.) Those extensions are mortise
hinged to the center section which is twice the width of the extensions. You
see the two hinges (could be more if desired) when the extensions are out
makingfor an 36" wide table. No support leg or whatever is needed for the
extensions. Only the center is supported, and that's with a post and spider.
With extension folded, it is used as a smaller table, 18" wide. Both
surfaces of the extensions are laminated. I estimate the table's length at
36" I think you can build it to any size desired.

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"Steve" wrote in message
...
I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against
the
fwd cabin bulkhead??

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a
main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd
settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I
was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

Has anyone ever used or crewed on a boat with the free end of the table
suspended rather than a leg support??

Thoughts and suggestions?

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Don't have a complete understanding of what you're trying to do, but my
table has 9" wide extensions on each long side that fold onto the top of a
laminated center section. (Not underneath.) Those extensions are mortise
hinged to the center section which is twice the width of the extensions. You
see the two hinges (could be more if desired) when the extensions are out
makingfor an 36" wide table. No support leg or whatever is needed for the
extensions. Only the center is supported, and that's with a post and spider.
With extension folded, it is used as a smaller table, 18" wide. Both
surfaces of the extensions are laminated. I estimate the table's length at
36" I think you can build it to any size desired.

--
Eliminate "ns" for email address.
"Steve" wrote in message
...
I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against
the
fwd cabin bulkhead??

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a
main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd
settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I
was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

Has anyone ever used or crewed on a boat with the free end of the table
suspended rather than a leg support??

Thoughts and suggestions?

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Steve wrote:

I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against the
fwd cabin bulkhead??


We love it!

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

You'll be trading the complication of a folding leg against having to
navigate around the chains as you serve, eat, clean up and such.

Our table (pics on Xan's pages below) hides the legs out of the way
nicely, the loose leaf clips to the leg and out of the way when not in
use, which makes things a bit more stable. It takes all of 5 seconds to
put up or down. (A bit more if we screw the leg into the floor.)

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Folding Cabin table??
 

Steve wrote:

I've been living on my boat for over 6 mo months without a table in the
cabin.. Kinda gotten use to all that unobstructed area, but I'm tired of
eating at the chart table or on my lap. I promised myself I would build a
table over the winter.

Why not enjoy both worlds and have a table that can be folded up against the
fwd cabin bulkhead??


We love it!

In order to serve crew seated on either settee it would need to have a main
table section that is hinged on the fwd bulkhead and serving the stbd settee
and a folding longitudinal leaf for the port settee.

I don't care for a idle leaf to be hanging down from the table top so I was
thinking to leaf this leaf folded back against the bottom of the table, as
it would be when the whole table is folded up to the bulkhead.

I have seen some examples of this and they were complicated by a folding
leg. I was thinking of a pair of brass chains to the overhead..

You'll be trading the complication of a folding leg against having to
navigate around the chains as you serve, eat, clean up and such.

Our table (pics on Xan's pages below) hides the legs out of the way
nicely, the loose leaf clips to the leg and out of the way when not in
use, which makes things a bit more stable. It takes all of 5 seconds to
put up or down. (A bit more if we screw the leg into the floor.)

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Folding Cabin table??
 

Thanks Jere,

That arrangement might come close to meeting my needs.

The distance between the settees may be greater and thus the need for wider
table section. I'm not on the boat now, but will do some measureing..

It seems that the leaf could be folded over the top like Len discribed..

I have been having second thoughts on the support, since with the table
folded up, I don't have a good hand hold in the center of the cabin.. I may
compromise my desire for a clear cabin and put a fixed stantion in the
middle for the table to fold down to.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Thanks Jere,

That arrangement might come close to meeting my needs.

The distance between the settees may be greater and thus the need for wider
table section. I'm not on the boat now, but will do some measureing..

It seems that the leaf could be folded over the top like Len discribed..

I have been having second thoughts on the support, since with the table
folded up, I don't have a good hand hold in the center of the cabin.. I may
compromise my desire for a clear cabin and put a fixed stantion in the
middle for the table to fold down to.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

Steve wrote:

Thanks Jere,

That arrangement might come close to meeting my needs.

The distance between the settees may be greater and thus the need for wider
table section. I'm not on the boat now, but will do some measureing..


For reference, our settees are 42" apart.

It seems that the leaf could be folded over the top like Len discribed..


That requires both sides be finished, the piano hinge will stick up in
the open position, and the leaf's support system would have to come from
some place else. Not insurmountable, but considerations.

I have been having second thoughts on the support, since with the table
folded up, I don't have a good hand hold in the center of the cabin.. I may
compromise my desire for a clear cabin and put a fixed stantion in the
middle for the table to fold down to.

Might work, though I have really come to love the overhead grab rails
and open floor plan.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Folding Cabin table??
 

Steve wrote:

Thanks Jere,

That arrangement might come close to meeting my needs.

The distance between the settees may be greater and thus the need for wider
table section. I'm not on the boat now, but will do some measureing..


For reference, our settees are 42" apart.

It seems that the leaf could be folded over the top like Len discribed..


That requires both sides be finished, the piano hinge will stick up in
the open position, and the leaf's support system would have to come from
some place else. Not insurmountable, but considerations.

I have been having second thoughts on the support, since with the table
folded up, I don't have a good hand hold in the center of the cabin.. I may
compromise my desire for a clear cabin and put a fixed stantion in the
middle for the table to fold down to.

Might work, though I have really come to love the overhead grab rails
and open floor plan.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Folding Cabin table??
 

My objective is to be able to rig or unrig the table with "a single motion"
without need to fumble with bits and pieces. I don't plan to have it down
unless there is a need for it yet the storage against the bulkhead should
also be neat and not look like an stored ironing board.. If I can work out a
neat leaf folding system I will become the face of a cabinet on the
bulkhead. I've seen one system like that but could never make out the hinge
details from the photos.

Yes. I love my open area but haven't been in open water yet.. I'm sure I
will want something to grab since the cabin trunk grab rails are at least 60
inches apart and the passage fwd/aft isn't down the middle..

I can't put full grab rails in the overhead because of head clearance. I may
just run a 1/2"X1 1/2" slat type just under the deck beams..

Just thinking out loud.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

My objective is to be able to rig or unrig the table with "a single motion"
without need to fumble with bits and pieces. I don't plan to have it down
unless there is a need for it yet the storage against the bulkhead should
also be neat and not look like an stored ironing board.. If I can work out a
neat leaf folding system I will become the face of a cabinet on the
bulkhead. I've seen one system like that but could never make out the hinge
details from the photos.

Yes. I love my open area but haven't been in open water yet.. I'm sure I
will want something to grab since the cabin trunk grab rails are at least 60
inches apart and the passage fwd/aft isn't down the middle..

I can't put full grab rails in the overhead because of head clearance. I may
just run a 1/2"X1 1/2" slat type just under the deck beams..

Just thinking out loud.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Folding Cabin table??
 

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:02:52 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

My objective is to be able to rig or unrig the table with "a single motion"
without need to fumble with bits and pieces. I don't plan to have it down
unless there is a need for it yet the storage against the bulkhead should
also be neat and not look like an stored ironing board.. If I can work out a
neat leaf folding system I will become the face of a cabinet on the
bulkhead. I've seen one system like that but could never make out the hinge
details from the photos.

Yes. I love my open area but haven't been in open water yet.. I'm sure I
will want something to grab since the cabin trunk grab rails are at least 60
inches apart and the passage fwd/aft isn't down the middle..

I can't put full grab rails in the overhead because of head clearance. I may
just run a 1/2"X1 1/2" slat type just under the deck beams..

My wife and I chartered a Sabre 34 about 11 or 12 years ago that had a
bulkead mount table. I don't remember it looking too bad when up.

It did have a single leg that folded, but I don't remember if it
showed when the table was up.

It occurs to me that you could have a hinged leg that would be hidden
by the folded leaf, if the leaf folded under. Of course, if you fold
it under you will need a way to hold it unfolded.

If you had a leg on each half of the table, the undersides could be
routed out to hold them.



Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson

Folding Cabin table??
 

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:02:52 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

My objective is to be able to rig or unrig the table with "a single motion"
without need to fumble with bits and pieces. I don't plan to have it down
unless there is a need for it yet the storage against the bulkhead should
also be neat and not look like an stored ironing board.. If I can work out a
neat leaf folding system I will become the face of a cabinet on the
bulkhead. I've seen one system like that but could never make out the hinge
details from the photos.

Yes. I love my open area but haven't been in open water yet.. I'm sure I
will want something to grab since the cabin trunk grab rails are at least 60
inches apart and the passage fwd/aft isn't down the middle..

I can't put full grab rails in the overhead because of head clearance. I may
just run a 1/2"X1 1/2" slat type just under the deck beams..

My wife and I chartered a Sabre 34 about 11 or 12 years ago that had a
bulkead mount table. I don't remember it looking too bad when up.

It did have a single leg that folded, but I don't remember if it
showed when the table was up.

It occurs to me that you could have a hinged leg that would be hidden
by the folded leaf, if the leaf folded under. Of course, if you fold
it under you will need a way to hold it unfolded.

If you had a leg on each half of the table, the undersides could be
routed out to hold them.



Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson