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Alge treatment
I'm just starting to see some signs of something that looks like alge on the
walls of my Racor sediment bowl so I decided it was time to put something in the tank to get ahead of the problem before there is so much that killing it produces a mass of sludge to clog the filters. After looking at the dire poison warnings on many of the bottles, I bought Starbritte StarTron. The enzyme approach seems to make sense. According to the brocure on the bottle, it seems to prevent the alge from clumping rather than killing it. I did the research after since I needed to fill the tank and, with my economical engine, there may not be another fill this summer. The research: Found this site which look good and has some testimonials from reputable sounding people: http://www.priproducts.com/default.htm They say: "Soltron, also re-packaged as Startron, is composed of odorless mineral spirits, a form of high-grade kerosene. Soltron makes the bold claim that the product contains biological enzymes that "eat" impurities in fuel including microorganisms, hence improve fuel stability. Fact is, enzymes are amino acids - not living organisms that "eat". Chemically, amino acids are typically not capable of surviving in a hydrocarbon base, including petroleum fuels. While Soltron provides "testimonials" from individual users regarding product effectiveness, independent laboratory testing for fuel stability tells a completely different story. We had Soltron independently tested by Saybolt - Core Laboratory, a well respected international petroleum testing laboratory that routinely conducts petroleum testing for major refiners. The industry standard ASTM-D2274 testing provided the following results. In summary, Soltron failed to improve fuel stability. In fact, it made the fuel, a California Air Resources Board mandated low-sulfur diesel (0.02%), less stable." Of course, they also say not to believe anything you read on a website (except theirs). I'm sure this is the kind of thing where there are as many opinons as posters to this newsgroup but, the questions of the day a Is all this stuff snake oil? Is putting powerful and dangerous biocides in the tank and pulling the sludge out with the filters the only option? (In between major fuel polishing episodes.) Does anyone know a qood source of objective information about what works and doesn't? -- Roger Long |
Alge treatment
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:48:23 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote: Is putting powerful and dangerous biocides in the tank and pulling the sludge out with the filters the only option? (In between major fuel polishing episodes.) I've had good luck with Biobor. If it's not toxic, it won't accomplish much. Be prepared to change your filters a little more often for awhile. I loaded up my tanks with the recommended shock dosage last year and was changing filters every 50 to 100 gallons for awhile. Now I've just run through over 1400 gallons in the last month with only one change. |
Alge treatment
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:48:23 -0400, "Roger Long" wrote: Is putting powerful and dangerous biocides in the tank and pulling the sludge out with the filters the only option? (In between major fuel polishing episodes.) I've had good luck with Biobor. If it's not toxic, it won't accomplish much. Be prepared to change your filters a little more often for awhile. I loaded up my tanks with the recommended shock dosage last year and was changing filters every 50 to 100 gallons for awhile. Now I've just run through over 1400 gallons in the last month with only one change. Every 50 to 100 gallons? Good gravy! I haven't used 20 gallons in 6 years. This is going to take a while... |
Alge treatment
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:58:08 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote: Every 50 to 100 gallons? Good gravy! I haven't used 20 gallons in 6 years. This is going to take a while... Clearly you need bigger engines... :-) |
Alge treatment
Whatever you use, follow directions. Too much is NOT a good thing
G |
Alge treatment
"Wayne.B" wrote I've had good luck with Biobor. That's the stuff I almost bought. Do you just pour it in the tank before filling? I was buying just before I needed to fill the tank. The print on the Biobor Jr. bottle was so small that, even with my glasses, I could only make out a few phrases that looked like, "full protective clothing", "pre mix with (some quantity) of fuel", etc. It was the latter that really made up my mind because I didn't have time to arrange the necessary containers and means of transfer. The StarTron says that there is absolutely no risk of interaction with other fuel treatments. (If the PRI people are correct, that's easy to believe.) I could still try Biobor when I use up the next half tank. Another question: Does the alge sludge get through the primary filter? I plan to put a vacuum gauge in my fuel line the next time I open up the fuel system. However, my secondary filter is downstream of both fuel pumps so I can't put a gauge on that one unless it was a pressure gauge just before the filter. -- Roger Long |
Alge treatment
I've been using Soltron about 7 years (the original stuff). Before using
it, my filters took a lot slime out (from the algae); after using it, the output is like 'coffee grains', which filter out easily. The filters last about twice as long. I have 3 fuel tanks (about 200 gallons of diesel). YES, it's a sailboat that been to Europe, in the Med, and back. Been in the Caribbean 4 times. Before I started using Soltron, I used Biobor (for 15 yrs). The tanks had 'junk' on the bottom and sides. The line was also filled with the same 'junk'. After using Soltron, the tanks are 'clean' and I can go for about 200 hours (about 200 gallons) before replacing the racors (500 series). By the way, I use a Baha filter when I fuel up. I don't know a lot of 'testing', but I do know the results of using Soltron. From my experience, I won't put anything else in my tanks except SOLTRON. IMHO Hanz Roger Long wrote: I'm just starting to see some signs of something that looks like alge on the walls of my Racor sediment bowl so I decided it was time to put something in the tank to get ahead of the problem before there is so much that killing it produces a mass of sludge to clog the filters. After looking at the dire poison warnings on many of the bottles, I bought Starbritte StarTron. The enzyme approach seems to make sense. According to the brocure on the bottle, it seems to prevent the alge from clumping rather than killing it. I did the research after since I needed to fill the tank and, with my economical engine, there may not be another fill this summer. The research: Found this site which look good and has some testimonials from reputable sounding people: http://www.priproducts.com/default.htm They say: "Soltron, also re-packaged as Startron, is composed of odorless mineral spirits, a form of high-grade kerosene. Soltron makes the bold claim that the product contains biological enzymes that "eat" impurities in fuel including microorganisms, hence improve fuel stability. Fact is, enzymes are amino acids - not living organisms that "eat". Chemically, amino acids are typically not capable of surviving in a hydrocarbon base, including petroleum fuels. While Soltron provides "testimonials" from individual users regarding product effectiveness, independent laboratory testing for fuel stability tells a completely different story. We had Soltron independently tested by Saybolt - Core Laboratory, a well respected international petroleum testing laboratory that routinely conducts petroleum testing for major refiners. The industry standard ASTM-D2274 testing provided the following results. In summary, Soltron failed to improve fuel stability. In fact, it made the fuel, a California Air Resources Board mandated low-sulfur diesel (0.02%), less stable." Of course, they also say not to believe anything you read on a website (except theirs). I'm sure this is the kind of thing where there are as many opinons as posters to this newsgroup but, the questions of the day a Is all this stuff snake oil? Is putting powerful and dangerous biocides in the tank and pulling the sludge out with the filters the only option? (In between major fuel polishing episodes.) Does anyone know a qood source of objective information about what works and doesn't? -- Roger Long |
Alge treatment
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:31:41 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote I've had good luck with Biobor. That's the stuff I almost bought. Do you just pour it in the tank before filling? I was buying just before I needed to fill the tank. The print on the Biobor Jr. bottle was so small that, even with my glasses, I could only make out a few phrases that looked like, "full protective clothing", "pre mix with (some quantity) of fuel", etc. It was the latter that really made up my mind because I didn't have time to arrange the necessary containers and means of transfer. The StarTron says that there is absolutely no risk of interaction with other fuel treatments. (If the PRI people are correct, that's easy to believe.) I could still try Biobor when I use up the next half tank. Another question: Does the alge sludge get through the primary filter? I plan to put a vacuum gauge in my fuel line the next time I open up the fuel system. However, my secondary filter is downstream of both fuel pumps so I can't put a gauge on that one unless it was a pressure gauge just before the filter. Good questions. If I still have a fair amount of fuel when I start, I just pour in the total amount of Biobor that I will need. Otherwise I will fill part way, add the Biobor, and resume fueling. I wear rubber gloves when handling it. It's a good practice to wear them when handling diesel also. My primary filters are 10 micron Racors with vacuum guages. As long as I keep an eye on the vacuum and swap out the Racors in a timely manner, the secondary filters mounted on the engine stay clean. The sediment bowl on the Racors also needs to be checked periodically. I replace the secondary fuel filters once a year as preventive maintenance. |
Alge treatment
I use 2 microns on my racor(500 series). The engine is a Volvo MD-30.
With a 10 some sludge will get thru.. Hanz Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:31:41 -0400, "Roger Long" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote I've had good luck with Biobor. That's the stuff I almost bought. Do you just pour it in the tank before filling? I was buying just before I needed to fill the tank. The print on the Biobor Jr. bottle was so small that, even with my glasses, I could only make out a few phrases that looked like, "full protective clothing", "pre mix with (some quantity) of fuel", etc. It was the latter that really made up my mind because I didn't have time to arrange the necessary containers and means of transfer. The StarTron says that there is absolutely no risk of interaction with other fuel treatments. (If the PRI people are correct, that's easy to believe.) I could still try Biobor when I use up the next half tank. Another question: Does the alge sludge get through the primary filter? I plan to put a vacuum gauge in my fuel line the next time I open up the fuel system. However, my secondary filter is downstream of both fuel pumps so I can't put a gauge on that one unless it was a pressure gauge just before the filter. Good questions. If I still have a fair amount of fuel when I start, I just pour in the total amount of Biobor that I will need. Otherwise I will fill part way, add the Biobor, and resume fueling. I wear rubber gloves when handling it. It's a good practice to wear them when handling diesel also. My primary filters are 10 micron Racors with vacuum guages. As long as I keep an eye on the vacuum and swap out the Racors in a timely manner, the secondary filters mounted on the engine stay clean. The sediment bowl on the Racors also needs to be checked periodically. I replace the secondary fuel filters once a year as preventive maintenance. |
Alge treatment
I've used Startron since it was Soltron and hard to find, about 6
years. When I first got the boat, I shocked the tanks per their directions,then had the fuel polished. I've used it ever since. I had a small leak a couple of years ago, and we opened up the tank to clean it out and line it with aircraft fuel tank sealant. The inside of the tank was pretty darned clean. This is a steel tank on a 20 year old trawler. There was a little bit of black stuff, maybe 1/8" thick on the very bottom, and some sediment which was mostly rust falling off the top of the tank, where the fuel doesn't hardly ever slosh up and cover. I've been very impressed with Startron, and continue to use and recommend it. The PRI stuff at least looks good too, but I've never tried it personally. I do have to wonder about someone who spends all that time/effort bashing their competition though. If your product is so good, just sell it on it's merits. |
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