Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

While looking for Christmas gifts, today, I saw a jug of Weems & Plath
"liquid paraffin" lamp oil for the fakey Chinese lamps they sell at
amazing profits. It had been marked down from $129.95 to $108.95,
just in time for Christmas!

I started looking around the display, as if looking for something, and
when one of the nasty salesailors came over to enquire what I was
looking for I said, "Where's the drum?" That threw him, "What do you
mean, drum?" "For over $100 for some fuel oil doesn't it come in a
55-gallon drum?", I asked, innocently.

You just KNOW there's some idiots handing over $109 for a quart of
GENUINE Weems & Plath fuel oil to go in their cheap Chinese lamps,
don'tcha? I used to think the reason people with money had money was
because they were really smart. Waste Marine sure blew that theory
all to hell. They got a 10' plastic dingy out front for $1000!
"Wanna buy some oars to go with that, sir?"

(Aflack duck goes running out of store like he does Yogi Berra's
barber shop, violently shaking his head and making funny noises.)


Larry W4CSC

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Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
While looking for Christmas gifts, today, I saw a jug of Weems & Plath
"liquid paraffin" lamp oil for the fakey Chinese lamps they sell at
amazing profits. It had been marked down from $129.95 to $108.95,
just in time for Christmas!

I started looking around the display, as if looking for something, and
when one of the nasty salesailors came over to enquire what I was
looking for I said, "Where's the drum?" That threw him, "What do you
mean, drum?" "For over $100 for some fuel oil doesn't it come in a
55-gallon drum?", I asked, innocently.

You just KNOW there's some idiots handing over $109 for a quart of
GENUINE Weems & Plath fuel oil to go in their cheap Chinese lamps,
don'tcha? I used to think the reason people with money had money was
because they were really smart. Waste Marine sure blew that theory
all to hell. They got a 10' plastic dingy out front for $1000!
"Wanna buy some oars to go with that, sir?"

(Aflack duck goes running out of store like he does Yogi Berra's
barber shop, violently shaking his head and making funny noises.)


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
While looking for Christmas gifts, today, I saw a jug of Weems & Plath
"liquid paraffin" lamp oil for the fakey Chinese lamps they sell at
amazing profits. It had been marked down from $129.95 to $108.95,
just in time for Christmas!

I started looking around the display, as if looking for something, and
when one of the nasty salesailors came over to enquire what I was
looking for I said, "Where's the drum?" That threw him, "What do you
mean, drum?" "For over $100 for some fuel oil doesn't it come in a
55-gallon drum?", I asked, innocently.

You just KNOW there's some idiots handing over $109 for a quart of
GENUINE Weems & Plath fuel oil to go in their cheap Chinese lamps,
don'tcha? I used to think the reason people with money had money was
because they were really smart. Waste Marine sure blew that theory
all to hell. They got a 10' plastic dingy out front for $1000!
"Wanna buy some oars to go with that, sir?"

(Aflack duck goes running out of store like he does Yogi Berra's
barber shop, violently shaking his head and making funny noises.)


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
computer....(c;


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
computer....(c;


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Larry, are they "selling" any?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
: On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
: wrote:
:
: Larry,
:
: That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
: A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
: quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
: incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
: though.
:
: Doug, k3qt
: s/v Callista
:
: Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
: marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
: of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
: computer....(c;
:
:
: Larry W4CSC
:
: NNNN
:

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Larry, are they "selling" any?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
: On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
: wrote:
:
: Larry,
:
: That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
: A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
: quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
: incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
: though.
:
: Doug, k3qt
: s/v Callista
:
: Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
: marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
: of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
: computer....(c;
:
:
: Larry W4CSC
:
: NNNN
:

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
computer....(c;


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
computer....(c;


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

doug dotson wrote:
It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.


$19.99 on the web site...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...oductId=124429

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

doug dotson wrote:
It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.


$19.99 on the web site...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...oductId=124429

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Their web catalog lists it for $19.99/qt.

Doug

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
computer....(c;


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Their web catalog lists it for $19.99/qt.

Doug

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:33:42 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Larry,

That can't be right. Lamp oil at our WM locally is $10.99 retail.
A 2.5 Gallon jug is 32.99. Alot less via Port Supply. And if course
quite a bit less via other outlets. It must have been a marked
incorrectly. The price seems about right for the lamps themselves
though.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

Not only was that marked on the original sales tag, but it was also
marked on the red sale tag. None of them seemed to notice (or care,
of course). It was a pre-printed Waste Marine tag, right off the
computer....(c;


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Cindy Ballreich wrote:
doug dotson wrote:

It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.


$19.99 on the web site...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...oductId=124429

I can't imagine what could in the stuff WM sells that would make it
worth that much...'cuz a quart of lamp oil at my friendly neighborhood
hardware store is $3.29/quart. Prob'ly even cheaper at Home Depot.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Cindy Ballreich wrote:
doug dotson wrote:

It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.


$19.99 on the web site...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...oductId=124429

I can't imagine what could in the stuff WM sells that would make it
worth that much...'cuz a quart of lamp oil at my friendly neighborhood
hardware store is $3.29/quart. Prob'ly even cheaper at Home Depot.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

It's just plain old liquid parafin. Everything from Weems & Plath is
expensive. They sell 2.5 gallon containers for $32 which it still
higher than you can get it elsewhere but more reasonable.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Cindy Ballreich wrote:
doug dotson wrote:

It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.


$19.99 on the web site...

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...oductId=124429

I can't imagine what could in the stuff WM sells that would make it
worth that much...'cuz a quart of lamp oil at my friendly neighborhood
hardware store is $3.29/quart. Prob'ly even cheaper at Home Depot.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

It's just plain old liquid parafin. Everything from Weems & Plath is
expensive. They sell 2.5 gallon containers for $32 which it still
higher than you can get it elsewhere but more reasonable.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Cindy Ballreich wrote:
doug dotson wrote:

It had to be a mistake. I'll pop into my loac WM and check it out.
If it was a computer generated tag I'd bet that the entire chain is
wrong.


$19.99 on the web site...

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...oductId=124429

I can't imagine what could in the stuff WM sells that would make it
worth that much...'cuz a quart of lamp oil at my friendly neighborhood
hardware store is $3.29/quart. Prob'ly even cheaper at Home Depot.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:56 -0500, "Wim" wrote:

Larry, are they "selling" any?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html

Don't know. There was only one bottle left, though!


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:56 -0500, "Wim" wrote:

Larry, are they "selling" any?
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html

Don't know. There was only one bottle left, though!


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Not in your wildest dreams........nor in Boat magazines, either....(c;


On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Not in your wildest dreams........nor in Boat magazines, either....(c;


On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:41:04 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

Not in your wildest dreams........nor in Boat magazines, either....(c;


On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Why should they? It's an obvious typo, confirmed by the web site.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:41:04 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

Not in your wildest dreams........nor in Boat magazines, either....(c;


On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Why should they? It's an obvious typo, confirmed by the web site.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Confirmed by common sense I believe. Another reason to
regulate the stray RF in the ham shack :)


"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:41:04 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

Not in your wildest dreams........nor in Boat magazines, either....(c;


On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the
price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Why should they? It's an obvious typo, confirmed by the web site.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36
Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Confirmed by common sense I believe. Another reason to
regulate the stray RF in the ham shack :)


"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:41:04 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

Not in your wildest dreams........nor in Boat magazines, either....(c;


On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I notice on that link, there is an opportunity for someone to submit a
review of this product.. It presently show "0" reviews..

Do you suppose that they would post a negative review regarding the
price??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Why should they? It's an obvious typo, confirmed by the web site.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36
Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:28:21 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Confirmed by common sense I believe. Another reason to
regulate the stray RF in the ham shack :)

Oh, come now. When was the last time you saw a posting ON A COMPANY
MODERATED CHATROOM or in an advertiser-supported boat magazine that
said the company's or advertiser's products really sucked. Hell,
reading a boat magazine is like reading a sales brochure, totally
designed to unload products, which is why the company sponsors the
chatroom IT CONTROLS.


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:28:21 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Confirmed by common sense I believe. Another reason to
regulate the stray RF in the ham shack :)

Oh, come now. When was the last time you saw a posting ON A COMPANY
MODERATED CHATROOM or in an advertiser-supported boat magazine that
said the company's or advertiser's products really sucked. Hell,
reading a boat magazine is like reading a sales brochure, totally
designed to unload products, which is why the company sponsors the
chatroom IT CONTROLS.


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Company supported boards: was Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Larry W4CSC wrote:

Oh, come now. When was the last time you saw a posting ON A COMPANY
MODERATED CHATROOM or in an advertiser-supported boat magazine that
said the company's or advertiser's products really sucked. Hell,
reading a boat magazine is like reading a sales brochure, totally
designed to unload products, which is why the company sponsors the
chatroom IT CONTROLS.


Funny you should ask. Cruising World's bulletin board has always been somewhat "energetic" (as another has recently described it). There are certainly a lot of opinions there. All of them except mine are wrong, of course '-}

Unfortunately, a couple of days ago they changed their BB software and what for years has been a great forum became pretty unusable. They are working on it and acting on suggestions, but I dunno if it will ever again be the board that it was.

Fortunately, SailboatOwners.com stepped in and created a new board using the same software that CW abandonded and most if not all of the denizens have moved over there. http://www.cs-bb.com/forums/CWBB/index.cgi

At the moment, there's still a lot of traffic bemoaning the change at CW and thanking SailboatOwners.com for setting up of the new board, but the sailing related traffic is picking back up. For instance Bob Perry (the guy who designed my boat, Tayana 37 among many others) recently started a thread that has some good information on it regarding gimbaled vs. non-gimbaled / mast vs. tower radar mounts
--
Dan Best - (707) 431-1662, Healdsburg, CA 95448
B-2/75 1977-1979
Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://rangerbest.home.comcast.net/TriciaJean.JPG

Company supported boards: was Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

Larry W4CSC wrote:

Oh, come now. When was the last time you saw a posting ON A COMPANY
MODERATED CHATROOM or in an advertiser-supported boat magazine that
said the company's or advertiser's products really sucked. Hell,
reading a boat magazine is like reading a sales brochure, totally
designed to unload products, which is why the company sponsors the
chatroom IT CONTROLS.


Funny you should ask. Cruising World's bulletin board has always been somewhat "energetic" (as another has recently described it). There are certainly a lot of opinions there. All of them except mine are wrong, of course '-}

Unfortunately, a couple of days ago they changed their BB software and what for years has been a great forum became pretty unusable. They are working on it and acting on suggestions, but I dunno if it will ever again be the board that it was.

Fortunately, SailboatOwners.com stepped in and created a new board using the same software that CW abandonded and most if not all of the denizens have moved over there. http://www.cs-bb.com/forums/CWBB/index.cgi

At the moment, there's still a lot of traffic bemoaning the change at CW and thanking SailboatOwners.com for setting up of the new board, but the sailing related traffic is picking back up. For instance Bob Perry (the guy who designed my boat, Tayana 37 among many others) recently started a thread that has some good information on it regarding gimbaled vs. non-gimbaled / mast vs. tower radar mounts
--
Dan Best - (707) 431-1662, Healdsburg, CA 95448
B-2/75 1977-1979
Tayana 37 #192, "Tricia Jean" http://rangerbest.home.comcast.net/TriciaJean.JPG

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

The price of capitalism I guess :)

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:28:21 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Confirmed by common sense I believe. Another reason to
regulate the stray RF in the ham shack :)

Oh, come now. When was the last time you saw a posting ON A COMPANY
MODERATED CHATROOM or in an advertiser-supported boat magazine that
said the company's or advertiser's products really sucked. Hell,
reading a boat magazine is like reading a sales brochure, totally
designed to unload products, which is why the company sponsors the
chatroom IT CONTROLS.


Larry W4CSC

NNNN

Record Fuel Oil Prices - Waste Marine!
 

The price of capitalism I guess :)

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:28:21 -0500, "doug dotson"
wrote:

Confirmed by common sense I believe. Another reason to
regulate the stray RF in the ham shack :)

Oh, come now. When was the last time you saw a posting ON A COMPANY
MODERATED CHATROOM or in an advertiser-supported boat magazine that
said the company's or advertiser's products really sucked. Hell,
reading a boat magazine is like reading a sales brochure, totally
designed to unload products, which is why the company sponsors the
chatroom IT CONTROLS.


Larry W4CSC

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