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Has any such similar system been tried ? What was wrong ?

If available, please point to vendor.

Appreciatively,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

Yacht Saver..

Been around for about 15 years.. I think they are still sold..

These are inflateable bags that are installed inside the boat in spare (is
there such a thing) areas, like up under the deck..

I'm not sure how they are deployed, maybe someone who hangs out at the boat
shows can jump in here..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ??

Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type..

BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round
the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a
raving endorsement or not ;o)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

The real reasons they went away if they did are -

no real value proposition except to new, rich, inexperienced cruisers

they cost too much

they take up too much room

When you find most boats with anchors that are 2 sizes too small, how
you gonna convince people to buy a boat preserver as well as a life
preserver as well as a belt, braces, a life raft, an epirb, ssb radio,
and on and on.

In fact, boats hardly even sink out in the wide blue (they do at the
dock freq - because of bad owners), except when they hit charted
rocks, islands, reefs, continents, assorted other hard bits that boat
owners can't seem to pay attention to. Even then the boats rarely
sink, they get stranded, broken to pieces, can't be refloated ...

So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98
problems out of 100.



On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:56 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ??

Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type..

BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round
the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a
raving endorsement or not ;o)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Subject: why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering
?
From: Panama

So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98
problems out of 100.



Add a good high water alarm system to that list and you're at 99.

Capt. Bill

I would rather invest in a good plan and equipment to plug a leak or at
least slow the flooding.. Collision matt and DC plugs. Hinged Plywood
patches with "J" bolts, etc.

Back to the inflation system..

Sea Story to follow:
I knew of a fellow whose boat sank in shallow water at the Coronado Is.
(so.of San Diego). It was a small wooden cabin cruiser.. Some friends came
to his assistance and they put a life raft inside the cabin and pulled that
infation lanyard.. Ripped the deck and cabin off the hull.. Seems a boats
deck attachments weren't strong enough to support the weight of the hull and
it's engine, etc. Or it could have been that the volume of the hull interior
was smaller than the the volume of the inflated life raft.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

I would rather invest in a good plan and equipment to plug a leak or at
least slow the flooding.. Collision matt and DC plugs. Hinged Plywood
patches with "J" bolts, etc.

Back to the inflation system..

Sea Story to follow:
I knew of a fellow whose boat sank in shallow water at the Coronado Is.
(so.of San Diego). It was a small wooden cabin cruiser.. Some friends came
to his assistance and they put a life raft inside the cabin and pulled that
infation lanyard.. Ripped the deck and cabin off the hull.. Seems a boats
deck attachments weren't strong enough to support the weight of the hull and
it's engine, etc. Or it could have been that the volume of the hull interior
was smaller than the the volume of the inflated life raft.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Subject: why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering
?
From: Panama

So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98
problems out of 100.



Add a good high water alarm system to that list and you're at 99.

Capt. Bill

The real reasons they went away if they did are -

no real value proposition except to new, rich, inexperienced cruisers

they cost too much

they take up too much room

When you find most boats with anchors that are 2 sizes too small, how
you gonna convince people to buy a boat preserver as well as a life
preserver as well as a belt, braces, a life raft, an epirb, ssb radio,
and on and on.

In fact, boats hardly even sink out in the wide blue (they do at the
dock freq - because of bad owners), except when they hit charted
rocks, islands, reefs, continents, assorted other hard bits that boat
owners can't seem to pay attention to. Even then the boats rarely
sink, they get stranded, broken to pieces, can't be refloated ...

So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98
problems out of 100.



On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:56 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ??

Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type..

BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round
the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a
raving endorsement or not ;o)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Steve wrote:

I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ??

Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type..

I believe I saw a notice a couple of years ago that they'd gone out of
business.

As another noted, most boats that sink do so next to the dock through
owner inattention.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
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