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why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Yacht Saver..
Been around for about 15 years.. I think they are still sold.. These are inflateable bags that are installed inside the boat in spare (is there such a thing) areas, like up under the deck.. I'm not sure how they are deployed, maybe someone who hangs out at the boat shows can jump in here.. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Yacht Saver..
Been around for about 15 years.. I think they are still sold.. These are inflateable bags that are installed inside the boat in spare (is there such a thing) areas, like up under the deck.. I'm not sure how they are deployed, maybe someone who hangs out at the boat shows can jump in here.. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ??
Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type.. BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a raving endorsement or not ;o) Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ??
Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type.. BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a raving endorsement or not ;o) Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
The real reasons they went away if they did are -
no real value proposition except to new, rich, inexperienced cruisers they cost too much they take up too much room When you find most boats with anchors that are 2 sizes too small, how you gonna convince people to buy a boat preserver as well as a life preserver as well as a belt, braces, a life raft, an epirb, ssb radio, and on and on. In fact, boats hardly even sink out in the wide blue (they do at the dock freq - because of bad owners), except when they hit charted rocks, islands, reefs, continents, assorted other hard bits that boat owners can't seem to pay attention to. Even then the boats rarely sink, they get stranded, broken to pieces, can't be refloated ... So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98 problems out of 100. On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:56 -0800, "Steve" wrote: I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ?? Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type.. BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a raving endorsement or not ;o) Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
The real reasons they went away if they did are -
no real value proposition except to new, rich, inexperienced cruisers they cost too much they take up too much room When you find most boats with anchors that are 2 sizes too small, how you gonna convince people to buy a boat preserver as well as a life preserver as well as a belt, braces, a life raft, an epirb, ssb radio, and on and on. In fact, boats hardly even sink out in the wide blue (they do at the dock freq - because of bad owners), except when they hit charted rocks, islands, reefs, continents, assorted other hard bits that boat owners can't seem to pay attention to. Even then the boats rarely sink, they get stranded, broken to pieces, can't be refloated ... So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98 problems out of 100. On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:00:56 -0800, "Steve" wrote: I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ?? Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type.. BTW there are several used systems on the market that have completed round the world trips.. "never needed it! Thank God!".. I'm not sure that is a raving endorsement or not ;o) Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering?
Steve wrote:
I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ?? Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type.. I believe I saw a notice a couple of years ago that they'd gone out of business. As another noted, most boats that sink do so next to the dock through owner inattention. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering?
Steve wrote:
I just tried their web site www.yachtsaver.com and it's down or ?? Maybe Yacht Saver needed a 'saver' of a different type.. I believe I saw a notice a couple of years ago that they'd gone out of business. As another noted, most boats that sink do so next to the dock through owner inattention. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Been around for about 15 years.. I think they are still sold..
These are inflateable bags that are installed inside the boat in spare (is there such a thing) areas, like up under the deck.. We looked at an item like that about 5 years ago at the boat show in Chas, SC. It looked like a great idea. We saw the bags installed in the cabin behind the settees and along side the hull on the fore peak. I believe they were lanyard actuated. The big thing though, I heard that they were taken off the market for a safety reason. I haven't heard about them since. Leanne |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Been around for about 15 years.. I think they are still sold..
These are inflateable bags that are installed inside the boat in spare (is there such a thing) areas, like up under the deck.. We looked at an item like that about 5 years ago at the boat show in Chas, SC. It looked like a great idea. We saw the bags installed in the cabin behind the settees and along side the hull on the fore peak. I believe they were lanyard actuated. The big thing though, I heard that they were taken off the market for a safety reason. I haven't heard about them since. Leanne |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Subject: why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering
? From: Panama So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98 problems out of 100. Add a good high water alarm system to that list and you're at 99. Capt. Bill |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Subject: why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering
? From: Panama So learn how to anchor and read a chart and you've eliminated 98 problems out of 100. Add a good high water alarm system to that list and you're at 99. Capt. Bill |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
I would rather invest in a good plan and equipment to plug a leak or at
least slow the flooding.. Collision matt and DC plugs. Hinged Plywood patches with "J" bolts, etc. Back to the inflation system.. Sea Story to follow: I knew of a fellow whose boat sank in shallow water at the Coronado Is. (so.of San Diego). It was a small wooden cabin cruiser.. Some friends came to his assistance and they put a life raft inside the cabin and pulled that infation lanyard.. Ripped the deck and cabin off the hull.. Seems a boats deck attachments weren't strong enough to support the weight of the hull and it's engine, etc. Or it could have been that the volume of the hull interior was smaller than the the volume of the inflated life raft. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
I would rather invest in a good plan and equipment to plug a leak or at
least slow the flooding.. Collision matt and DC plugs. Hinged Plywood patches with "J" bolts, etc. Back to the inflation system.. Sea Story to follow: I knew of a fellow whose boat sank in shallow water at the Coronado Is. (so.of San Diego). It was a small wooden cabin cruiser.. Some friends came to his assistance and they put a life raft inside the cabin and pulled that infation lanyard.. Ripped the deck and cabin off the hull.. Seems a boats deck attachments weren't strong enough to support the weight of the hull and it's engine, etc. Or it could have been that the volume of the hull interior was smaller than the the volume of the inflated life raft. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Steve
you gotta get outta the cold. go to SD and see your son. you know you can't launch a 16' inflatable in a 20' cabin cruiser. On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:25:05 -0800, "Steve" wrote: I would rather invest in a good plan and equipment to plug a leak or at least slow the flooding.. Collision matt and DC plugs. Hinged Plywood patches with "J" bolts, etc. Back to the inflation system.. Sea Story to follow: I knew of a fellow whose boat sank in shallow water at the Coronado Is. (so.of San Diego). It was a small wooden cabin cruiser.. Some friends came to his assistance and they put a life raft inside the cabin and pulled that infation lanyard.. Ripped the deck and cabin off the hull.. Seems a boats deck attachments weren't strong enough to support the weight of the hull and it's engine, etc. Or it could have been that the volume of the hull interior was smaller than the the volume of the inflated life raft. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Steve
you gotta get outta the cold. go to SD and see your son. you know you can't launch a 16' inflatable in a 20' cabin cruiser. On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:25:05 -0800, "Steve" wrote: I would rather invest in a good plan and equipment to plug a leak or at least slow the flooding.. Collision matt and DC plugs. Hinged Plywood patches with "J" bolts, etc. Back to the inflation system.. Sea Story to follow: I knew of a fellow whose boat sank in shallow water at the Coronado Is. (so.of San Diego). It was a small wooden cabin cruiser.. Some friends came to his assistance and they put a life raft inside the cabin and pulled that infation lanyard.. Ripped the deck and cabin off the hull.. Seems a boats deck attachments weren't strong enough to support the weight of the hull and it's engine, etc. Or it could have been that the volume of the hull interior was smaller than the the volume of the inflated life raft. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat)
qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat)
qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Out of business
On most boats the hull to deck joint is not strong enough to take the stress of the bags pushing *up* when submerged. What happens is the bag deploys and floats to the cabin top ..... as the deck separates from the hull, the bag escapes into the sea. Then the boat is easier to sink! .... maybe once could catch such a bag as it erupts through a broken deck joint ......... nah - thats called a liferaft. In article , Courtney Thomas wrote: Has any such similar system been tried ? What was wrong ? If available, please point to vendor. Appreciatively, |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Out of business
On most boats the hull to deck joint is not strong enough to take the stress of the bags pushing *up* when submerged. What happens is the bag deploys and floats to the cabin top ..... as the deck separates from the hull, the bag escapes into the sea. Then the boat is easier to sink! .... maybe once could catch such a bag as it erupts through a broken deck joint ......... nah - thats called a liferaft. In article , Courtney Thomas wrote: Has any such similar system been tried ? What was wrong ? If available, please point to vendor. Appreciatively, |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
My point exactly, in my previous post regarding a failed attempt to float a
sunken boat with a life raft inflated insided the cabin.. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
My point exactly, in my previous post regarding a failed attempt to float a
sunken boat with a life raft inflated insided the cabin.. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering?
Do you by chance know who produced their bags for them? It seems like a
good idea to me also - I'd much rather be stranded with my whole boat than with just a liferaft. Seems to me that with 35'+ boats with bulwarks, the bags could be mounted _outside_ the rail, just under the cap rail, or down lower under the rub rail where such existed. By designing the hull to accomodate the bags, you could get good strength and good appearance, with minimal intrusion. The biggest problem would be salt water corrosion of various bits and pieces, but given the potential advantages, that _should_ solveable. IMHO. Rufus Evan Gatehouse wrote: I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat) qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering?
Do you by chance know who produced their bags for them? It seems like a
good idea to me also - I'd much rather be stranded with my whole boat than with just a liferaft. Seems to me that with 35'+ boats with bulwarks, the bags could be mounted _outside_ the rail, just under the cap rail, or down lower under the rub rail where such existed. By designing the hull to accomodate the bags, you could get good strength and good appearance, with minimal intrusion. The biggest problem would be salt water corrosion of various bits and pieces, but given the potential advantages, that _should_ solveable. IMHO. Rufus Evan Gatehouse wrote: I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat) qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
You could make your own. Hypalon glues very well as long as you have the
proper glue. Make double butted seams for strength (put the ends of the two main pieces together, then glue a strip on the inside and outside of the seam). Look up Hypalon, or Coated Fabrics in Thomas Register or online for sources. "Rufus" wrote in message ... Do you by chance know who produced their bags for them? It seems like a good idea to me also - I'd much rather be stranded with my whole boat than with just a liferaft. Seems to me that with 35'+ boats with bulwarks, the bags could be mounted _outside_ the rail, just under the cap rail, or down lower under the rub rail where such existed. By designing the hull to accomodate the bags, you could get good strength and good appearance, with minimal intrusion. The biggest problem would be salt water corrosion of various bits and pieces, but given the potential advantages, that _should_ solveable. IMHO. Rufus Evan Gatehouse wrote: I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat) qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
You could make your own. Hypalon glues very well as long as you have the
proper glue. Make double butted seams for strength (put the ends of the two main pieces together, then glue a strip on the inside and outside of the seam). Look up Hypalon, or Coated Fabrics in Thomas Register or online for sources. "Rufus" wrote in message ... Do you by chance know who produced their bags for them? It seems like a good idea to me also - I'd much rather be stranded with my whole boat than with just a liferaft. Seems to me that with 35'+ boats with bulwarks, the bags could be mounted _outside_ the rail, just under the cap rail, or down lower under the rub rail where such existed. By designing the hull to accomodate the bags, you could get good strength and good appearance, with minimal intrusion. The biggest problem would be salt water corrosion of various bits and pieces, but given the potential advantages, that _should_ solveable. IMHO. Rufus Evan Gatehouse wrote: I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat) qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering?
I'll give 'em a look. Not sure that's the sort of thing I want to do
mmyself, though. Experience counts. Thanks, Rufus Keith wrote: You could make your own. Hypalon glues very well as long as you have the proper glue. Make double butted seams for strength (put the ends of the two main pieces together, then glue a strip on the inside and outside of the seam). Look up Hypalon, or Coated Fabrics in Thomas Register or online for sources. "Rufus" wrote in message ... Do you by chance know who produced their bags for them? It seems like a good idea to me also - I'd much rather be stranded with my whole boat than with just a liferaft. Seems to me that with 35'+ boats with bulwarks, the bags could be mounted _outside_ the rail, just under the cap rail, or down lower under the rub rail where such existed. By designing the hull to accomodate the bags, you could get good strength and good appearance, with minimal intrusion. The biggest problem would be salt water corrosion of various bits and pieces, but given the potential advantages, that _should_ solveable. IMHO. Rufus Evan Gatehouse wrote: I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat) qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering?
I'll give 'em a look. Not sure that's the sort of thing I want to do
mmyself, though. Experience counts. Thanks, Rufus Keith wrote: You could make your own. Hypalon glues very well as long as you have the proper glue. Make double butted seams for strength (put the ends of the two main pieces together, then glue a strip on the inside and outside of the seam). Look up Hypalon, or Coated Fabrics in Thomas Register or online for sources. "Rufus" wrote in message ... Do you by chance know who produced their bags for them? It seems like a good idea to me also - I'd much rather be stranded with my whole boat than with just a liferaft. Seems to me that with 35'+ boats with bulwarks, the bags could be mounted _outside_ the rail, just under the cap rail, or down lower under the rub rail where such existed. By designing the hull to accomodate the bags, you could get good strength and good appearance, with minimal intrusion. The biggest problem would be salt water corrosion of various bits and pieces, but given the potential advantages, that _should_ solveable. IMHO. Rufus Evan Gatehouse wrote: I used to have Yachtsaver bags in our old boat so I feel (somewhat) qualified to reply to all this: - they are indeed out of business - they closed about 3 years ago, citing 2 reasons: lack of sales, and CE tests for Europe that indicated the actual volume of some of their bags was less than calculated i.e. some of the systems already installed may have been marginal at best in terms of how much actual flotation provided. - each of their standard bags was supposed to provide 1 ton of lift. Bags were about 4" thick x 24" long x 8" high. Pretty easy to find room for 4 of them in our small 30' cutter. Easy to bolt their mounting straps to bulkheads that could withstand 1 ton of force. I did the calcs on bulkhead bearing strength and taping and it was o.k. - 1 CO2 cylinder was enough for 4 bags. - Price for the system was $2200 USD +/-. About the same cost as a liferaft, and you might well save your boat with the system. Pretty good idea if you ask me. - for larger boats, they become pretty costly quickly, so a liferaft starts to sound very appealling in cost, especially if your boat is insured (we were not) Our next boat is a 40' catamaran, with 6 different w.t. compartments. Should be enough to float the boat with any 1 compartment flooded (but I will do the hydrostatics to check this for myself). -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
why no in-hull Hypalon autoinflating system to avoid foundering ?
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:48:45 -0500
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