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LaBomba182 November 23rd 03 02:35 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

Capt. Bill



LaBomba182 November 23rd 03 02:37 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Tom Dacon"


This hasn't been my experience. In calm inner waters, such as the inland
passage along the west coast of Canada, radar when set to short range can
commonly pick up a log or the top of a deadhead if it breaks the water's
surface, and it will routinely pick up a seagull standing on top of it. In
fact, I've even seen it pick up the riffles from a tidal rip.


Well, as long as you stay in "calm waters" it looks like you'll be OK. :-)

Capt. Bill



LaBomba182 November 23rd 03 02:37 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Tom Dacon"


This hasn't been my experience. In calm inner waters, such as the inland
passage along the west coast of Canada, radar when set to short range can
commonly pick up a log or the top of a deadhead if it breaks the water's
surface, and it will routinely pick up a seagull standing on top of it. In
fact, I've even seen it pick up the riffles from a tidal rip.


Well, as long as you stay in "calm waters" it looks like you'll be OK. :-)

Capt. Bill



Rosalie B. November 25th 03 09:40 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
x-no-archive:yes (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

We frequently have objects that we do not see strike the hull in the
Dismal Swamp canal. Sometimes they hit around the bow and we can hear
them roll back to the stern. Sometimes they even set off the depth
sounder. Never have been able to see any of them. I've always
contended that they were dead bodies, but I suppose they would
eventually float up to the surface if they were.


grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. November 25th 03 09:40 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
x-no-archive:yes (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

We frequently have objects that we do not see strike the hull in the
Dismal Swamp canal. Sometimes they hit around the bow and we can hear
them roll back to the stern. Sometimes they even set off the depth
sounder. Never have been able to see any of them. I've always
contended that they were dead bodies, but I suppose they would
eventually float up to the surface if they were.


grandma Rosalie

Denis Marier November 25th 03 10:13 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Containers are scaring me! I never hit one yet. But, it took me hours to
free my rudder from an old abandon fishing net floating away below the
surface. They said that these nets could have been abandon or lost during
storms years ago.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
x-no-archive:yes (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life

examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

We frequently have objects that we do not see strike the hull in the
Dismal Swamp canal. Sometimes they hit around the bow and we can hear
them roll back to the stern. Sometimes they even set off the depth
sounder. Never have been able to see any of them. I've always
contended that they were dead bodies, but I suppose they would
eventually float up to the surface if they were.


grandma Rosalie




Denis Marier November 25th 03 10:13 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Containers are scaring me! I never hit one yet. But, it took me hours to
free my rudder from an old abandon fishing net floating away below the
surface. They said that these nets could have been abandon or lost during
storms years ago.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
x-no-archive:yes (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life

examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

We frequently have objects that we do not see strike the hull in the
Dismal Swamp canal. Sometimes they hit around the bow and we can hear
them roll back to the stern. Sometimes they even set off the depth
sounder. Never have been able to see any of them. I've always
contended that they were dead bodies, but I suppose they would
eventually float up to the surface if they were.


grandma Rosalie




Denis Marier November 26th 03 10:27 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
True, when the waves are not higher that your radar's random antenna.
Dangiser
"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Stuff like containers that fell off of freighters will show up on
RADAR.


Not when they are full of water and just barely at or under the surface.

Capt. Bill




Denis Marier November 26th 03 10:27 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
True, when the waves are not higher that your radar's random antenna.
Dangiser
"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From:


Stuff like containers that fell off of freighters will show up on
RADAR.


Not when they are full of water and just barely at or under the surface.

Capt. Bill




LaBomba182 November 29th 03 08:21 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Denis Marier"


True, when the waves are not higher that your radar's random antenna.


?

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 November 29th 03 08:21 PM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Denis Marier"


True, when the waves are not higher that your radar's random antenna.


?

Capt. Bill

Denis Marier November 30th 03 12:27 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
When your boat is at the bottom of a 30 feet + water crest.
the radar waves reflect back and you have no idea what is on the other side
of the crest?
You can monitor a blitz on you screen and all of a sudden it disappears as
your boat is going down the crest. Avoiding collision with floating debris
require more than a technique and electronic.
"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Denis Marier"


True, when the waves are not higher that your radar's random antenna.


?

Capt. Bill




Denis Marier November 30th 03 12:27 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
When your boat is at the bottom of a 30 feet + water crest.
the radar waves reflect back and you have no idea what is on the other side
of the crest?
You can monitor a blitz on you screen and all of a sudden it disappears as
your boat is going down the crest. Avoiding collision with floating debris
require more than a technique and electronic.
"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Denis Marier"


True, when the waves are not higher that your radar's random antenna.


?

Capt. Bill




Denis Marier November 30th 03 12:27 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
In the Bay of Fundy Its not uncommon to see whales. At night some sleeps at
the surface of the water. Some sailors stated that they have at time came
close or touch the whale's back with either the bow of the tip of the boat
keel.
Having your depth sounder on appears to keep the whales awake?? Whether
this is a sailor's legend or not I do not know. I do not waist time arguing
about this legend I just turn the echo-sounder on.
As for the abandon floating fishing nets, the damages can be costly.
Last summer the owner of a sailboat had to have the strut, shaft and
propeller fixed.
Some time, it requires diving or dry docking to replace parts and repair
what needed.

"Denis Marier" wrote in message
...
Containers are scaring me! I never hit one yet. But, it took me hours to
free my rudder from an old abandon fishing net floating away below the
surface. They said that these nets could have been abandon or lost during
storms years ago.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
x-no-archive:yes (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating

debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life

examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit

a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

We frequently have objects that we do not see strike the hull in the
Dismal Swamp canal. Sometimes they hit around the bow and we can hear
them roll back to the stern. Sometimes they even set off the depth
sounder. Never have been able to see any of them. I've always
contended that they were dead bodies, but I suppose they would
eventually float up to the surface if they were.


grandma Rosalie






Denis Marier November 30th 03 12:27 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
In the Bay of Fundy Its not uncommon to see whales. At night some sleeps at
the surface of the water. Some sailors stated that they have at time came
close or touch the whale's back with either the bow of the tip of the boat
keel.
Having your depth sounder on appears to keep the whales awake?? Whether
this is a sailor's legend or not I do not know. I do not waist time arguing
about this legend I just turn the echo-sounder on.
As for the abandon floating fishing nets, the damages can be costly.
Last summer the owner of a sailboat had to have the strut, shaft and
propeller fixed.
Some time, it requires diving or dry docking to replace parts and repair
what needed.

"Denis Marier" wrote in message
...
Containers are scaring me! I never hit one yet. But, it took me hours to
free my rudder from an old abandon fishing net floating away below the
surface. They said that these nets could have been abandon or lost during
storms years ago.
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
x-no-archive:yes (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating

debris......
From:


Please speak in complete thoughts, and maybe even cite real life

examples to
support your claim that this could even happen.


OK, I can.
I saw a 76 foot Lazzara at the factory yard being reworked after it hit

a
submerged container in, as I recall, broad daylight.
Is that good enough for you?

We frequently have objects that we do not see strike the hull in the
Dismal Swamp canal. Sometimes they hit around the bow and we can hear
them roll back to the stern. Sometimes they even set off the depth
sounder. Never have been able to see any of them. I've always
contended that they were dead bodies, but I suppose they would
eventually float up to the surface if they were.


grandma Rosalie






LaBomba182 December 3rd 03 03:33 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Denis Marier"


When your boat is at the bottom of a 30 feet + water crest.
the radar waves reflect back and you have no idea what is on the other side
of the crest?


True.

You can monitor a blitz on you screen


"blitz" = blip?

and all of a sudden it disappears as
your boat is going down the crest. Avoiding collision with floating debris
require more than a technique and electronic.


True. If I am read you correctly.

Capt. Bill



LaBomba182 December 3rd 03 03:33 AM

Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
 
Subject: Technique for avoiding collision with floating debris......
From: "Denis Marier"


When your boat is at the bottom of a 30 feet + water crest.
the radar waves reflect back and you have no idea what is on the other side
of the crest?


True.

You can monitor a blitz on you screen


"blitz" = blip?

and all of a sudden it disappears as
your boat is going down the crest. Avoiding collision with floating debris
require more than a technique and electronic.


True. If I am read you correctly.

Capt. Bill




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