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[email protected] June 27th 07 06:16 PM

Danfoss refrig compressors still making radio noise ?
 
Some years ago there were a lot of comments about 12 VDC refrig
systems running Danfoss compressors making a lot of RF noise and
interferring with Ham, SSB, WFAX, etc reception. Anybody know if this
is still true?

[email protected] June 27th 07 08:20 PM

Danfoss refrig compressors still making radio noise ?
 
On Jun 27, 7:16 am, wrote:
Some years ago there were a lot of comments about 12 VDC refrig
systems running Danfoss compressors making a lot of RF noise and
interferring with Ham, SSB, WFAX, etc reception. Anybody know if this
is still true?



It is for mine. I turn them off when using any form of HF comms.

-- Tom.


[email protected] June 27th 07 10:40 PM

Danfoss refrig compressors still making radio noise ?
 
How old is the compressor ? apparently at some point they were
supposed to improve this.



On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:20:42 -0700, "
wrote:

On Jun 27, 7:16 am, wrote:
Some years ago there were a lot of comments about 12 VDC refrig
systems running Danfoss compressors making a lot of RF noise and
interferring with Ham, SSB, WFAX, etc reception. Anybody know if this
is still true?



It is for mine. I turn them off when using any form of HF comms.

-- Tom.



[email protected] June 27th 07 11:06 PM

Danfoss refrig compressors still making radio noise ?
 
On Jun 27, 11:40 am, wrote:
How old is the compressor ? apparently at some point they were
supposed to improve this. ...


They're Veco electronics on Danfoss compressors ca 2000. They put out
a horrible radio belch when they switch on and then chirp all over the
hf bands when running. I don't hear them at all on FM. Still, I
don't find it too tedious to just switch them off when using the SSB.

-- Tom.


Larry June 28th 07 05:49 AM

Danfoss refrig compressors still making radio noise ?
 
wrote in :

Some years ago there were a lot of comments about 12 VDC refrig
systems running Danfoss compressors making a lot of RF noise and
interferring with Ham, SSB, WFAX, etc reception. Anybody know if this
is still true?


Only on Channel 16 where you have to listen to the damned squelch breaking
open at a regular drum rate for the whole watch......Adler-Barbour.

God that thing drove me NUTS on midwatch! You couldn't squelch it out!

Larry
--
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The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP


Richard Kollmann June 30th 07 12:55 AM

Danfoss refrig compressors still making radio noise ?
 
There has always been a problem with a few boaters complaining about
Danfoss BD refrigerator compressors producing radio interference.
These complaints have not been of a large enough magnitude to get the
attention of companies assembling boat refrigeration systems. The
basic problem is only a few boaters are concerned with refrigeration
transmitted EMI/RFI. When I have ask friends with single SSB radios
and Danfoss compressor refrigeration, cruising in the Bahamas about
radio noise they report no problem. The problem is recognized now by
Danfoss by this statement posted on their web site, (The increased use
of more sophisticated radio receiving devices such as Sat Nav and GPS
means the issue of EMI is a real factor, both conductive and radiated
interference needs to be addressed.)

Each upgraded model of Danfoss's electronic module was reported to
have less RF noise transmission. Today Danfoss offers two separate
noise reduction modules for either the BD35 or BD50 compressors.
Danfoss's Electronic EMI 101N0220 and their Extended EMI that includes
added Conduction Extra Filtered, what ever that means. P/N 101N0900 is
their current answer to the noise problem. I have no knowledge of any
boater that has purchased one of these modules or venders that sell
them.

Danfoss does offer six different electronic modules for BD35 and BD50
compressors with each offering an extended performance function but
none incorporate all desirable functions.
1.The new standard module has standard protection circuits but only
manual speed control by changing a resistor.
2. and 3. The two EMI modules above are the same as a standard module
but have the added noise control functions.
4. The Electronic Energy Optimization (AEO) module is the same as the
standard module except it automatically controls compressor speed,
much like an automobile transmission controls engine speed for best
energy efficiency. It also incorporates a cooling fan.
5. Electronic BD50 high start unit is a standard module that can
overcome false starts do to overloaded temperature/pressure starts,
this is common on a compressor trying to start when set to run at high
RPM. This is not a problem with the AEO model as it already has a soft
start function.
6. Electronic module with a AC/DC converter appears to be a resent
module but still not offered by ice box conversion refrigerator
manufacturers. AC/DC operation will prevent battery stress when
compressor is run from batteries connected to a battery charger while
at the dock.




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