Right of way?
 

Now I know how the large commercial operators must feel some times.

I was motoring at five knots when a jet ski came roaring across my bow from
starboard at about full speed for those things. As he went by at 30 knots,
he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference) (feminine hygine
reference), I had the right of way!

Huh. Who ever heard of a jet ski operator even knowing that there was such a
thing? Our speed disparity was such that any course or speed alteration I
could have made wouldn't have significantly altered my status as an
essentially stationary object. His course was dead straight and the passing
distance wasn't any less than is typical for these buzz bombs.

Nice to know that one of these bozos has read a boating book though.

--
Roger Long

Right of way?
 

"Roger Long" wrote in news:465824d1$0$3244
:

he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference)

No shotgun aboard? They usually ski away fast when I come up from below
with the big Browning....(c;

I used to ski in a pack with others who love them. I still love them,
but realize I'm not gettin' any younger. We never wake jumped anyone's
boat without calling them on the radio to ask if it was OK. Our favorite
was tugboats in a hurry to get upriver, which creates a huge wake trying
to plane their displacement hulls. They monitor channel 10...(c; "Try
not to scratch the new paint.", one tugboat captain told me. He added
throttle to make the wave bigger. The trick is to jump off the bow wave
and try to land over the top of the next wave aft....without flipping
over or nosing in, of course....(c;

They know nothing of right-of-way.....another reason I call for mandatory
testing and licensing the hermits resist. If I can take his license, I
can take his life! The easy way would be to simply take his driver's
license from him. Of course, that would require real enforcement, not
just some flak-jacketed cowboys stopping everyone for no reason to check
their fire extinguishers...illegal search and seizure. They go for the
easy targets.

Wanna see 'em run? When they flip you the finger, give 'em a big smile
and shake your head up and down in a big YES! Now convinced you are a
flaming fag, they'll run for the horizon! Works great in the car,
too....(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Right of way?
 

On May 26, 7:15 am, "Roger Long" wrote:
Now I know how the large commercial operators must feel some times.

I was motoring at five knots when a jet ski came roaring across my bow from
starboard at about full speed for those things. As he went by at 30 knots,
he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference) (feminine hygine
reference), I had the right of way!

Huh. Who ever heard of a jet ski operator even knowing that there was such a
thing? Our speed disparity was such that any course or speed alteration I
could have made wouldn't have significantly altered my status as an
essentially stationary object. His course was dead straight and the passing
distance wasn't any less than is typical for these buzz bombs.

Nice to know that one of these bozos has read a boating book though.

--
Roger Long

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...70/pwchelp.htm

Right of way?
 

"Keith" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 26, 7:15 am, "Roger Long" wrote:
Now I know how the large commercial operators must feel some times.

I was motoring at five knots when a jet ski came roaring across my bow
from
starboard at about full speed for those things. As he went by at 30
knots,
he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference) (feminine hygine
reference), I had the right of way!

Huh. Who ever heard of a jet ski operator even knowing that there was
such a
thing? Our speed disparity was such that any course or speed alteration
I
could have made wouldn't have significantly altered my status as an
essentially stationary object. His course was dead straight and the
passing
distance wasn't any less than is typical for these buzz bombs.

Nice to know that one of these bozos has read a boating book though.

--
Roger Long

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...70/pwchelp.htm



That's correct. Great link also. He's obligated to operate safely and to
avoid a collision.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Right of way?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Roger Long" wrote in news:465824d1$0$3244
:

he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference)

No shotgun aboard? They usually ski away fast when I come up from below
with the big Browning....(c;

I used to ski in a pack with others who love them. I still love them,
but realize I'm not gettin' any younger. We never wake jumped anyone's
boat without calling them on the radio to ask if it was OK. Our favorite
was tugboats in a hurry to get upriver, which creates a huge wake trying
to plane their displacement hulls. They monitor channel 10...(c; "Try
not to scratch the new paint.", one tugboat captain told me. He added
throttle to make the wave bigger. The trick is to jump off the bow wave
and try to land over the top of the next wave aft....without flipping
over or nosing in, of course....(c;

They know nothing of right-of-way.....another reason I call for mandatory
testing and licensing the hermits resist. If I can take his license, I
can take his life! The easy way would be to simply take his driver's
license from him. Of course, that would require real enforcement, not
just some flak-jacketed cowboys stopping everyone for no reason to check
their fire extinguishers...illegal search and seizure. They go for the
easy targets.

Wanna see 'em run? When they flip you the finger, give 'em a big smile
and shake your head up and down in a big YES! Now convinced you are a
flaming fag, they'll run for the horizon! Works great in the car,
too....(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

You complain about boardings being illegal search and siezure, while
advocating turning a RIGHT into a privilege?

Right of way?
 

Keith wrote in news:1180183370.019044.242480
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:

Not 100% correct

Right of way?
 

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
Keith wrote in news:1180183370.019044.242480
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:

Not 100% correct

Correct. When it appears that maintaining course will result in a collision,
both vessels are singally required to do whatever it takes to avoid that
collision. At that point, "stand-on" or "give-way" is moot, other than in
court.

Right of way?
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
Keith wrote in
news:1180183370.019044.242480 @m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:

Not 100% correct

Correct. When it appears that maintaining course will result in a
collision, both vessels are singally required to do whatever it takes
to avoid that collision. At that point, "stand-on" or "give-way" is
moot, other than in court.




Although what you say is basically true, what I was referring to was the
term "right of way"...... it is still used in Rule 9 Inland USA

Right of way?
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

You complain about boardings being illegal search and siezure, while
advocating turning a RIGHT into a privilege?


What "right", driving a boat? When did that become a "right"? If I have
a "right" to drive a boat, there's absolutely no reason to stop me from
doing so, fire extinguisher or not! Boating isn't a "right" on the
public's waterways no more than driving is a "right" on the public's
roads.

A cop can't stop you while you are driving your car legally just to snoop
into your trunk for his own edification. That's against my Bill of
Rights against illegal search and seizure...or it was Friday afternoon if
they haven't deleted it, yet. It is STILL illegal search and seizure for
a watercop, from whatever bureaucracy, to stop you for the same reason,
to snoop into your boat for no reason. Same Bill of Rights, as of Friday
afternoon.

It's bull****.....and illegal. My fire extinguisher has been
"inspected" 5 times in ONE day in the jetboat....how stupid.

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Right of way?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

You complain about boardings being illegal search and siezure, while
advocating turning a RIGHT into a privilege?


What "right", driving a boat? When did that become a "right"? If I have
a "right" to drive a boat, there's absolutely no reason to stop me from
doing so, fire extinguisher or not! Boating isn't a "right" on the
public's waterways no more than driving is a "right" on the public's
roads.

A cop can't stop you while you are driving your car legally just to snoop
into your trunk for his own edification. That's against my Bill of
Rights against illegal search and seizure...or it was Friday afternoon if
they haven't deleted it, yet. It is STILL illegal search and seizure for
a watercop, from whatever bureaucracy, to stop you for the same reason,
to snoop into your boat for no reason. Same Bill of Rights, as of Friday
afternoon.

It's bull****.....and illegal. My fire extinguisher has been
"inspected" 5 times in ONE day in the jetboat....how stupid.

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Actually, transporting oneself and one's private property upon the public
roadways is a right well-enshrined in our legal traditions, and recognised
by no less than the US Supreme Court in many decisions. Similarly, the
transportation of oneself and property upon the common waterways is also a
right. Engage in commerce using that property, and that right no longer
exists.

Somewhere along the way, the distinction between COMMERCIAL traffic and
private use became blurred, then obliterated.

You DO have the right to use your automobile on the public roadways, and the
right to use your boat on the public waterways, and the right to be free
from unreasonable searches and seizures in both cases. But until the sheeple
stand up for their rights en-masse, the nail that stands up will be hammered
down.

Right of way?
 

On Sat, 26 May 2007 10:49:10 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
. 125.201...
Keith wrote in news:1180183370.019044.242480
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:

Not 100% correct

Correct. When it appears that maintaining course will result in a collision,
both vessels are singally required to do whatever it takes to avoid that
collision. At that point, "stand-on" or "give-way" is moot, other than in
court.


In fact there was a case in the Singapore court a few years back where
two vessels in a controlled port traffic system were both deemed to be
in the wrong. One vessel for deviating from the specified channel and
ignoring instructions of the traffic controller, and the second for
not taking all possible action to avoid the collision.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Right of way?
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

You DO have the right to use your automobile on the public roadways,
and the right to use your boat on the public waterways, and the right
to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures in both cases. But
until the sheeple stand up for their rights en-masse, the nail that
stands up will be hammered down.


Try to explain that to the cop after you lost your license, not me...(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Right of way?
 

Charlie Morgan wrote in news:92mh535j8n7m2lli4vf449966i43r4fqco@
4ax.com:

Mid-air head on. Both killed instantly.

See? "Natural Selection"...just like Darwin said!

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Right of way?
 

Charlie Morgan wrote in
:

As far as I know, the term "Right of Way" only appears in the Inland
Rules.


At sea, right-of-way is either spelled EVERGREEN or SEALAND or MAERSK,
where I live...(c; They use a 32" prop......................bolt.
......and don't worry about scratchin' the paint!

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Right of way?
 

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
Keith wrote in
news:1180183370.019044.242480 @m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:

Not 100% correct

Correct. When it appears that maintaining course will result in a
collision, both vessels are singally required to do whatever it takes
to avoid that collision. At that point, "stand-on" or "give-way" is
moot, other than in court.




Although what you say is basically true, what I was referring to was the
term "right of way"...... it is still used in Rule 9 Inland USA


It's also used in Rule 14 (d) Head-on Situation.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Right of way?
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
Keith wrote in
news:1180183370.019044.242480 @m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way
vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)
Here's a solution:

Not 100% correct

Correct. When it appears that maintaining course will result in a
collision, both vessels are singally required to do whatever it
takes
to avoid that collision. At that point, "stand-on" or "give-way" is
moot, other than in court.




Although what you say is basically true, what I was referring to was
the
term "right of way"...... it is still used in Rule 9 Inland USA


It's also used in Rule 14 (d) giving head-on situation.


Oh my!

Wilbur Hubbard

Right of way?
 

Larry,,, you sure are quick to take a license when it is something you
don't like

{They know nothing of right-of-way.....another reason I call for mandatory
testing and licensing the hermits resist. If I can take his license, I
can take his life! The easy way would be to simply take his driver's
license from him. Of course, that would require real enforcement, not
just some flak-jacketed cowboys stopping everyone for no reason to check
their fire extinguishers...illegal search and seizure. They go for the
easy targets.}

Now .. let me see. If someone steals copyrighted material from another,
shouldn't that thief have his
license taken? I think so.

================================================== ==========



"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Roger Long" wrote in news:465824d1$0$3244
:

he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference)

No shotgun aboard? They usually ski away fast when I come up from below
with the big Browning....(c;

I used to ski in a pack with others who love them. I still love them,
but realize I'm not gettin' any younger. We never wake jumped anyone's
boat without calling them on the radio to ask if it was OK. Our favorite
was tugboats in a hurry to get upriver, which creates a huge wake trying
to plane their displacement hulls. They monitor channel 10...(c; "Try
not to scratch the new paint.", one tugboat captain told me. He added
throttle to make the wave bigger. The trick is to jump off the bow wave
and try to land over the top of the next wave aft....without flipping
over or nosing in, of course....(c;

They know nothing of right-of-way.....another reason I call for mandatory
testing and licensing the hermits resist. If I can take his license, I
can take his life! The easy way would be to simply take his driver's
license from him. Of course, that would require real enforcement, not
just some flak-jacketed cowboys stopping everyone for no reason to check
their fire extinguishers...illegal search and seizure. They go for the
easy targets.

Wanna see 'em run? When they flip you the finger, give 'em a big smile
and shake your head up and down in a big YES! Now convinced you are a
flaming fag, they'll run for the horizon! Works great in the car,
too....(c;

Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.

Right of way?
 

On May 26, 8:42 am, Keith wrote:
On May 26, 7:15 am, "Roger Long" wrote:





Now I know how the large commercial operators must feel some times.

I was motoring at five knots when a jet ski came roaring across my bow from
starboard at about full speed for those things. As he went by at 30 knots,
he screamed, "You %$#@* (reproductive reference) (feminine hygine
reference), I had the right of way!

Huh. Who ever heard of a jet ski operator even knowing that there was such a
thing? Our speed disparity was such that any course or speed alteration I
could have made wouldn't have significantly altered my status as an
essentially stationary object. His course was dead straight and the passing
distance wasn't any less than is typical for these buzz bombs.

Nice to know that one of these bozos has read a boating book though.

--
Roger Long

Nobody has the "right of way". You're a stand-on or give-way vessel.
Of course, you wouldn't expect a %^$^% jet ski operator to know
that. ;-)

Here in New York State, all us pwc operators/enthusiasts know that
because we have to pass a boating safety course certification test in
order to legally operate our boats (pwc's). In my opinion it should
be that way in all states for all boaters (regardless of the size and
shape of their hulls)....just like for automobile drivers.

Maybe I haven't thought it through deeply enough, but I don't mind
being stopped and checked to see that I have a fire extinguisher, my
certification license, registration and all other required safety
equipment; the rules make sense and it's a good idea to make sure that
people know them and are obeying them. I always appreciate the chance
to make a good impression (and dispel certain stereotypes)on behalf of
all my fellow educated, responsible pwc'ers.

richforman

Right of way?
 

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:10:58 -0700, richforman
wrote:

I always appreciate the chance
to make a good impression (and dispel certain stereotypes)on behalf of
all my fellow educated, responsible pwc'ers.

I know we've had this conversation before but you've got an uphill
battle ahead of you in regard to stereotypes.

One of our local, responsible, PWC'ers managed to decapitate himself
last week while running through a mooring area at speed.

http://www.nbc-2.com/Articles/readar...d=12910&z=3&p=

Right of way?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:10:58 -0700, richforman
wrote:


I always appreciate the chance
to make a good impression (and dispel certain stereotypes)on behalf of
all my fellow educated, responsible pwc'ers.


I know we've had this conversation before but you've got an uphill
battle ahead of you in regard to stereotypes.

One of our local, responsible, PWC'ers managed to decapitate himself
last week while running through a mooring area at speed.

http://www.nbc-2.com/Articles/readar...d=12910&z=3&p=



Yes, but he learned his lesson and won't do it again!

Right of way?
 

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
link.net...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:10:58 -0700, richforman
wrote:


I always appreciate the chance
to make a good impression (and dispel certain stereotypes)on behalf of
all my fellow educated, responsible pwc'ers.


I know we've had this conversation before but you've got an uphill
battle ahead of you in regard to stereotypes.

One of our local, responsible, PWC'ers managed to decapitate himself
last week while running through a mooring area at speed.

http://www.nbc-2.com/Articles/readar...d=12910&z=3&p=



Yes, but he learned his lesson and won't do it again!


Yeah, but all his buddies are saying, "Wow, that's sooo cool." g?


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Right of way?
 

On Jun 12, 5:38 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:10:58
wrote:

I always appreciate the chance
to make a good impression (and dispel certain stereotypes)on behalf of
all my fellow educated, responsible pwc'ers.

I know we've had this conversation before but you've got an uphill
battle ahead of you in regard to stereotypes.

One of our local, responsible, PWC'ers managed to decapitate himself
last week while running through a mooring area at speed.

http://www.nbc-2.com/Articles/readar...d=12910&z=3&p=

That is horrible (but then obviously he wasn't one of the responsible
and safe-operating ones I referred to....I didn't mean to imply that
all pwc'ers fell in that category, if it sounded that way I wasn't
expressing myself quite clearly.) At any rate, of course in any
segment of boaters (not just pwc's) we could come up with lots of
recent stories of people hurting and killing themselves and others by
doing stupid dangerous irresponsible things and not knowing how to
conduct themselves on the water.

richforman

Right of way?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:59:29 -0700, richforman said:

At any rate, of course in any
segment of boaters (not just pwc's) we could come up with lots of
recent stories of people hurting and killing themselves and others by
doing stupid dangerous irresponsible things and not knowing how to
conduct themselves on the water.

I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of each
of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever will.


As an example, I was sailing last weekend in a fairly narrow channel with
three students aboard a 32'. I PWC cut us off, despite our arm waiving,
which he clearly saw. We had to release our sails and head up to avoid him.
After he crossed our path, he gave us the finger. Bummer for him, because
the Coasties saw the whole thing... they were sitting right there on the
edge of the channel. I guess he didn't see them until they pulled him over.
We gave them the thumbs up and kept going.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Right of way?
 

Capt. JG wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:59:29 -0700, richforman said:


At any rate, of course in any
segment of boaters (not just pwc's) we could come up with lots of
recent stories of people hurting and killing themselves and others by
doing stupid dangerous irresponsible things and not knowing how to
conduct themselves on the water.

I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of each
of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever will.



As an example, I was sailing last weekend in a fairly narrow channel with
three students aboard a 32'. I PWC cut us off, despite our arm waiving,
which he clearly saw. We had to release our sails and head up to avoid him.
After he crossed our path, he gave us the finger. Bummer for him, because
the Coasties saw the whole thing... they were sitting right there on the
edge of the channel. I guess he didn't see them until they pulled him over.
We gave them the thumbs up and kept going.


I was out sailing a few weeks back and saw a PWC dead in the water.

Well, it obviously didn't get there by itself so I headed over and
found a young girl (teen) in the water. She couldn't get back up
on the thing because she said she hurt her ankle when she fell off.

Her "boyfriend" who was "teaching" her was over a mile away.
Didn't see her go down, and still wasn't looking for her.

We sat there with her for 15 or 20 minutes tooting the horn until
he finally figured it out and came back for her.

Then he just circled telling her to get back on.
Her ankle was obviously badly swollen.

The boy took off full throttle back across the lake.

The girl putted slowly back to the dock.

A little while later the boy came racing back toward the docks.
Didn't throw us the finger, but he didn't look happy either.

I guess she spoiled all his fun.

For what ever it's worth.

Richard

Right of way?
 

cavelamb himself wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:59:29 -0700, richforman said:


At any rate, of course in any
segment of boaters (not just pwc's) we could come up with lots of
recent stories of people hurting and killing themselves and others by
doing stupid dangerous irresponsible things and not knowing how to
conduct themselves on the water.


I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of
each of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever
will.




As an example, I was sailing last weekend in a fairly narrow channel
with three students aboard a 32'. I PWC cut us off, despite our arm
waiving, which he clearly saw. We had to release our sails and head up
to avoid him. After he crossed our path, he gave us the finger. Bummer
for him, because the Coasties saw the whole thing... they were sitting
right there on the edge of the channel. I guess he didn't see them
until they pulled him over. We gave them the thumbs up and kept going.


I was out sailing a few weeks back and saw a PWC dead in the water.

Well, it obviously didn't get there by itself so I headed over and
found a young girl (teen) in the water. She couldn't get back up
on the thing because she said she hurt her ankle when she fell off.

Her "boyfriend" who was "teaching" her was over a mile away.
Didn't see her go down, and still wasn't looking for her.

We sat there with her for 15 or 20 minutes tooting the horn until
he finally figured it out and came back for her.

Then he just circled telling her to get back on.
Her ankle was obviously badly swollen.

The boy took off full throttle back across the lake.

The girl putted slowly back to the dock.

A little while later the boy came racing back toward the docks.
Didn't throw us the finger, but he didn't look happy either.

I guess she spoiled all his fun.

For what ever it's worth.

Richard

Pwc'ers are kinda like lawyers: 97% of 'em give the rest a bad name.

DT

Right of way?
 

On Jun 13, 5:25 pm, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:59:29 said:

At any rate, of course in any
segment of boaters (not just pwc's) we could come up with lots of
recent stories of people hurting and killing themselves and others by
doing stupid dangerous irresponsible things and not knowing how to
conduct themselves on the water.

I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of each of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever will.

My statement above that you quoted is true.

richforman

Right of way?
 

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:11:41 -0700, richforman
wrote:

I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of each of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever will.

My statement above that you quoted is true.

I think the obversation that 97% of PWC operators give the rest a bad
reputation is absolutely true.

Right of way?
 

On Jun 15, 10:37 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:11:41
wrote:

I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of each of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever will.

My statement above that you quoted is true.

I think the obversation that 97% of PWC operators give the rest a bad
reputation is absolutely true.

Well that was more of an admittedly funny line rather than a true
statement like mine was

Well I've ridden pwc's with six other riders in the last week or so,
two of us covered about 340 miles over this last weekend; any way,
none of the seven of us had any problems or conflicts of any kind with
any of our fellow boaters
on the last few rides, for what that's worth, if anything. We idled
through no-wake zones, gave
fishermen and everybody else wide berths, got stopped and checked by
state police and coast
guard officers who seemed impressed with our level of preparedness and
knowledgeability and treated
us with respect and friendliness as did all other fellow water-lovers
we encountered on these trips. On Saturday,
my friend and I rode from Jones Beach Inlet on Long Island, right
across the ocean to Barnegat Inlet where
we met another friend, a doctor who had just bought his new 'ski the
day before, the three of us rode the
backwaters of the bay to the Cape May Inlet and then back to Tom's
River where we overnighted before
riding back to L.I. early Sunday morning.....we spent the two days
just seeing sights (we were happy to see about a half-dozen dolphins
frollicking in the ocean near Seaside Heights), enjoying the sun,
swimming
and exploring, stops on beaches and the fun of cruising around, and
defnitely not conforming to some of you fellas' ideas about who
pwc'ers are or what we do. I guess myself and all the people I
ride with are in the 3% of good ones, or maybe that percentage is not
really accurate.

richforman

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richforman wrote:

On Jun 15, 10:37 am, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:11:41
wrote:


I think you can skip the evangelizing. The personal observations of each of
us carries far more weight than your broken-record sales pitch ever will.

My statement above that you quoted is true.

I think the obversation that 97% of PWC operators give the rest a bad
reputation is absolutely true.


Well that was more of an admittedly funny line rather than a true
statement like mine was

Well I've ridden pwc's with six other riders in the last week or so,
two of us covered about 340 miles over this last weekend; any way,
none of the seven of us had any problems or conflicts of any kind with
any of our fellow boaters
on the last few rides, for what that's worth, if anything. We idled
through no-wake zones, gave
fishermen and everybody else wide berths, got stopped and checked by
state police and coast
guard officers who seemed impressed with our level of preparedness and
knowledgeability and treated
us with respect and friendliness as did all other fellow water-lovers
we encountered on these trips. On Saturday,
my friend and I rode from Jones Beach Inlet on Long Island, right
across the ocean to Barnegat Inlet where
we met another friend, a doctor who had just bought his new 'ski the
day before, the three of us rode the
backwaters of the bay to the Cape May Inlet and then back to Tom's
River where we overnighted before
riding back to L.I. early Sunday morning.....we spent the two days
just seeing sights (we were happy to see about a half-dozen dolphins
frollicking in the ocean near Seaside Heights), enjoying the sun,
swimming
and exploring, stops on beaches and the fun of cruising around, and
defnitely not conforming to some of you fellas' ideas about who
pwc'ers are or what we do. I guess myself and all the people I
ride with are in the 3% of good ones, or maybe that percentage is not
really accurate.

richforman

Well, like 84% of statistics, it was made up on the spot. ;-)

You know how it is; a few bad apples can spoil it for the whole bunch.
The bad ones are the ones that tend to stick in peoples' minds. Or
maybe y'all really are in the 3%. ;-)

Either way, keep up the good work.

DT

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On May 26, 10:44 pm, Larry wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote innews:QYadnZhZ5uCEJsXbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@centurytel .net:

You DO have the right to use your automobile on the public roadways,
and the right to use your boat on the public waterways, and the right
to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures in both cases. But
until the sheeple stand up for their rights en-masse, the nail that
stands up will be hammered down.

Try to explain that to the cop after you lost your license, not me...(c;

Larry
--

And drive perfectly, never to be justifiable cause for search and
siezure, fine by me. Get suspended and then drive into my resteraunt,
or stopped for speeding and its JAIL! Then it's pay back damages
including room and board at jail and fix my shop.

Terry K

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"Terry K" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 26, 10:44 pm, Larry wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote
innews:QYadnZhZ5uCEJsXbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@centurytel .net:

You DO have the right to use your automobile on the public roadways,
and the right to use your boat on the public waterways, and the right
to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures in both cases. But
until the sheeple stand up for their rights en-masse, the nail that
stands up will be hammered down.

Try to explain that to the cop after you lost your license, not me...(c;

Larry
--

And drive perfectly, never to be justifiable cause for search and
siezure, fine by me. Get suspended and then drive into my resteraunt,
or stopped for speeding and its JAIL! Then it's pay back damages
including room and board at jail and fix my shop.

Terry K


I would say "Drive responsibly and cause no damage to persons or property.
Damage persons or property and the full weight of the law shall fall upon
you." Trying to regulate behavior so as to prevent someone from doing harm
to another is futile. Provide weight to punishment and people will regulate
themselves.