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Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger ..
How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof) to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust" bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?) would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue. Happy trails. John |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
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John wrote: On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof) to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust" bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?) would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue. Happy trails. John My brother and sister and law cruise up and down the coast from NYC to Maine on a J/34C. They use full road bikes in the rear quarter berth with the front rear wheels off. They have had no problems, even with a good pounding in Buzzards Bay. Neither of them are real tall so their bikes are not huge, but with road bikes, it is not like there is that much a difference in size with the front wheel off. Neither of them like to buy toys so their bikes are not new and them seem unrusted to me. h -- To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"? |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
"Charlie Morgan" wrote
Those foldup things may save some room, but they have small diameter wheels that make pedaling them a chore. Not all of them: http://blizzard.zmm.com/bicycle/ (I've never taken mine sailing, though.) |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:ivpZh.1424$kg1.1057
@trndny04: Any thoughts? Here's mine: http://www.bladezscooters.com/index....tml&lang=en-us The handle at the bottom of the tiller post releases a big latch so the tiller folds down over the rear wheel and raises the front wheel to make it flatter. If you have the standard seat on, not shown in this picture, you pull a pin and lift the seat post out, first. Locking in the folded position, the tiller post becomes the carrying handle. It'll go about 8 miles at 16 mph but lots further if you're easy on the pulse-width-modulator smooth electronic "throttle". Climbing hills makes it a 3 mile scooter between charges, but you can hot swap battery packs and it uses standard sized 12V 12AH gelcells or AGM batteries. I'm running Werker AGM batteries, now and it runs great....down that 2 mile long dock from the parking lot...in the rain. It's chain drive with very smooth power. I'm 250# and it has no trouble pulling my lard around at all. Nuclear Powered in SC....(c; Larry -- |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
NE Sailboat wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. Bicycles rust away unless you protect them. When I pulled into a port in VA, I met a good looking 55 year old chick who wanted a ride where I was going. She turned out to be a danm good banger. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
On 30 Apr 2007 15:42:01 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:15:58 GMT, "NE Sailboat" said: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? Many moons ago I took one of those folding bikes along on a cruise. Decided after that that it really isn't worth the effort. I have thought about packing a couple of those little folding scooters you see kids riding. They seem like they might be light enough and also useful enough to justify the effort and storage space required. Anyone tried them for getting around an area he sails into? Hi, We bought three of the J-D Razor folding scooters when they first hit Australia in early 2000. My son used his to zip around everywhere and I commuted to work in Brisbane on mine. As a family we scooted about the city and from train stations to where we wanted to go. The beauty about them is that you can fold them, hop on a bus or train easily and plonk them beneath your desk or work station. It takes a bit of getting used to using different muscles and it is the leg on the scooter, not the leg that pushes, that becomes weary. I also used it in Spain and Gibraltar as well as in the Canaries. You can cover a lot of ground as well as getting exercise. I have only recently bought a couple of Dahon 20 inch, 7 speed (rear deraulier - sp again - only) folding bikes. I love mine even though the 26 inch bikes that lasted a year or two before being ditched due to corrosion do go further for the effort. cheers peter |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:33:23 +0000, Larry wrote:
Damn it Larry, Why wait until now to say so. I have always wanted one of these but the ones I saw that were available were only 12 volt and I hope to set off in a couple of weeks - probably too late to have it shipped. .. Thanks though, I now know whefre to get them and have a recommendation from a user, something that has not been married before. If only there was a foolproof way to have it delivered to Panama or Costa Rica tax and duty free - yacht in transit. Does anyone know? cheers Peter http://www.bladezscooters.com/index....tml&lang=en-us The handle at the bottom of the tiller post releases a big latch so the tiller folds down over the rear wheel and raises the front wheel to make it flatter. If you have the standard seat on, not shown in this picture, you pull a pin and lift the seat post out, first. Locking in the folded position, the tiller post becomes the carrying handle. It'll go about 8 miles at 16 mph but lots further if you're easy on the pulse-width-modulator smooth electronic "throttle". Climbing hills makes it a 3 mile scooter between charges, but you can hot swap battery packs and it uses standard sized 12V 12AH gelcells or AGM batteries. I'm running Werker AGM batteries, now and it runs great....down that 2 mile long dock from the parking lot...in the rain. It's chain drive with very smooth power. I'm 250# and it has no trouble pulling my lard around at all. Nuclear Powered in SC....(c; Larry |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
How many speeds? Drop down or mtn handlebars? Soft seat, or firm?
Did she squeal if not greased? How long did you keep her onboard? ============================ "Paul Cassel" wrote in message ... NE Sailboat wrote: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. Bicycles rust away unless you protect them. When I pulled into a port in VA, I met a good looking 55 year old chick who wanted a ride where I was going. She turned out to be a danm good banger. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote Those foldup things may save some room, but they have small diameter wheels that make pedaling them a chore. Not all of them: http://blizzard.zmm.com/bicycle/ (I've never taken mine sailing, though.) Our children gave my husband a full size folding bike and a bike bag. The wheels are regular size. The only problem with it AFAIA concerned is that I can't sit on the seat and reach the ground even with my toes, and the seat can't be lowered any more. So Bob got a second hand folding bike for me, and reconditioned it and made a Sunbrella bag for it. We stowed them on the aft deck (center cockpit boat) lashed to the lifelines, but this was inconvenient because the ladder was back there too. And they do rust |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
John wrote:
On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof) to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust" bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?) would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue. Happy trails. John Yet another myth to explode. As an ex racing cyclist-turned-sailor I explored the possibilty of cruising with 2 very expensive racing machines in the early eighties. Being involved in waterproof clothing manufacture led me to design 2 custom zip-on waterproof covers for the bikes, but there are other solutions if your boat is roomy enough. On our 34-footer we usually tied the bikes across the stern, and in rough weather were able to pass them down below. We once took 4 bikes and crew to the Isle of Man during TT Race week and cycled round the course after the racing, a little congested aboard the sailboat if I remember correctly, but it was worth it! We cruised extensivly off the West of Scotland for about ten seasons, and never went anywhere without the bikes. Rust was not a problem, due to the extensive use of alloys throughout racing bikes, also we were fastidious to the point of madness in keeping the machines salt-free. The biggest broblem with expensive bikes at sea is not rust, or oxidation, but getting the bikes to and from the boat in anchorages which have no marina-style pontoons, which, as you may guess are plentiful in the West of Scotland. We usually solved this by one of us stepping into the dinghy, fitting the outboard, then the other crew handing down the bikes, which were laid flat across the front of the dinghy and held together with a bungee plus a tight grip from the first mate! We developed a system which worked, to everyone else's consternation, and became the talk of the cruising fraternity off the West Coast. Sailors dressed in Lycra are a rarity, you must agree! Obviously if the wind and waves were too bad, we would abort or delay our departure, but I can honestly say this was rare. (who would choose a stormy anchorage for an overnight stay anyway?). We cycled round virtually every beautiful inhabited island on the West Coast over a period of some ten years, and I can honestly say the pleasure of cruising was increased tenfold, despite the extra hard work involved in the maintenance and conveyance of the bikes. Traffic-free roads, and magical scenery, made it all worthwhile. I'm now too old to think about taking myself, let alone the bikes, to sea again, but if you are young and fit, try it. You don't know what your are missing! You will discover places and meet people you never knew existed, beautiful bays, white sandy beaches, completely deserted, and will wish you had done this years ago! Oh, lest I forget, a dram of the local Malt Whisky tasted just as good ashore as on board! Dennis. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? If you plan on cruising out of the US or Canada don't get a bike. It will just be stolen. We found that if you need a bike while cruising it is just as easy to buy an old clunker for around $20 or so, while visiting someplace and sell it to another cruiser when you leave. My wife and I live on our boat for ten years sailing from Canada to South American. Now living in sunny SW Florida. Mike |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
NE Sailboat wrote:
How many speeds? Drop down or mtn handlebars? Soft seat, or firm? Did she squeal if not greased? How long did you keep her onboard? secrets never to be revealed. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
Dennis ,, you convinced me!
I have a Trek road bike. It is an old favorite. Very light. I will figure out a plan for taking it aboard. Probably use two bags. One bag = front wheel and equipment. Second bag = the remainder of the bicycle. As you wrote,, the hard part seems to be the getting and going. How to get the bicycle to the boat and how to get the bicycle off the boat. But ,, it will be worth it .. I know that. Planning ... always planning .. ======================== "Dennis Pogson" wrote in message ... John wrote: On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof) to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust" bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?) would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue. Happy trails. John Yet another myth to explode. As an ex racing cyclist-turned-sailor I explored the possibilty of cruising with 2 very expensive racing machines in the early eighties. Being involved in waterproof clothing manufacture led me to design 2 custom zip-on waterproof covers for the bikes, but there are other solutions if your boat is roomy enough. On our 34-footer we usually tied the bikes across the stern, and in rough weather were able to pass them down below. We once took 4 bikes and crew to the Isle of Man during TT Race week and cycled round the course after the racing, a little congested aboard the sailboat if I remember correctly, but it was worth it! We cruised extensivly off the West of Scotland for about ten seasons, and never went anywhere without the bikes. Rust was not a problem, due to the extensive use of alloys throughout racing bikes, also we were fastidious to the point of madness in keeping the machines salt-free. The biggest broblem with expensive bikes at sea is not rust, or oxidation, but getting the bikes to and from the boat in anchorages which have no marina-style pontoons, which, as you may guess are plentiful in the West of Scotland. We usually solved this by one of us stepping into the dinghy, fitting the outboard, then the other crew handing down the bikes, which were laid flat across the front of the dinghy and held together with a bungee plus a tight grip from the first mate! We developed a system which worked, to everyone else's consternation, and became the talk of the cruising fraternity off the West Coast. Sailors dressed in Lycra are a rarity, you must agree! Obviously if the wind and waves were too bad, we would abort or delay our departure, but I can honestly say this was rare. (who would choose a stormy anchorage for an overnight stay anyway?). We cycled round virtually every beautiful inhabited island on the West Coast over a period of some ten years, and I can honestly say the pleasure of cruising was increased tenfold, despite the extra hard work involved in the maintenance and conveyance of the bikes. Traffic-free roads, and magical scenery, made it all worthwhile. I'm now too old to think about taking myself, let alone the bikes, to sea again, but if you are young and fit, try it. You don't know what your are missing! You will discover places and meet people you never knew existed, beautiful bays, white sandy beaches, completely deserted, and will wish you had done this years ago! Oh, lest I forget, a dram of the local Malt Whisky tasted just as good ashore as on board! Dennis. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
Peter Hendra wrote in
: Damn it Larry, Why wait until now to say so. I have always wanted one of these but the ones I saw that were available were only 12 volt and I hope to set off in a couple of weeks - probably too late to have it shipped. . Ah, sorry. I just got back from a little diner about a mile from here. I rode the BladeZ. It's a beautiful day in Charleston...(c; If you DO buy one, be sure to get a STRONG cable lock to make sure you can KEEP it. Don't think your remote dock 2 miles from the parking lot at the marina is safe, either. "They", your mates down the dock, won't keep it like real thieves, but they'll certainly "borrow" it if it's not locked down...(c; I don't really mind them borrowing it, but, DAMMIT PLUG IN THE CHARGER WHEN YOU GET BACK so I don't find it DOA from some yachtie cruising around on MY battery pack! Larry -- Walking your dead scooter to the car at the end of a day sucks. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
Hi all
we are cruising for 3 years now continiously,with 2 mountain bikes on board,cheap things we bought in portugal for 49 euro each.since then they ve proved really must have as sometimes the super markets are quite a way ,and also you get to want to go out more ....:) from the boat i mean ,as it is easy to get to places that without them would have costed a taxi fare ....... If you are going to cruise north france,north spain,portugal,or even the med and even if you anchor a lot ,they are not that bad to have .we keep them when sailing in the saloon ,tied to the mast ,and our boat is only 31 feet. good sailing g |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
On Apr 30, 12:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? I've got a couple of used mountain bikes I bought for $25 each. Oil them up good, ride till they fall apart,deep six 'em and buy another pair. Each pair will last several years. |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
"Keith" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 30, 12:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? I've got a couple of used mountain bikes I bought for $25 each. Oil them up good, ride till they fall apart,deep six 'em and buy another pair. Each pair will last several years. So that's where the fish-on-a-bicycle joke started. It was YOU!! |
Anyone carry a bicycle on board?
Down in Florida many years back, I met a guy cruising with an old bike tied to
his bow pulpit. I'm sure the salt water did a number on it, but maybe he washed it down frequently. He was hopscotching down the coast with his boat. Pedling back to his van to move it up for his next leg. He had a small sailboat, thus the need to keep it on the deck. Strangely, he had a gimpy leg which he could not bend at the knee. You have to give him credit, but I always wondered how he pedled his bike. Sherwin D. Keith wrote: On Apr 30, 12:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote: I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger .. How can one attach? Or store? Any thoughts? I've got a couple of used mountain bikes I bought for $25 each. Oil them up good, ride till they fall apart,deep six 'em and buy another pair. Each pair will last several years. |
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