Struggling to Bermuda
 

Is anyone else following Donna Lange's struggle to reach Bermuda? This is
turning into real drama.

Whatever judgements you make about how she got into this mess, it's a good
thing for anyone who goes deepwater to be reminded what reserves of strength
and endurance we carry. All too many people give up too soon and sometimes
even die as a result.

If this were your typical yachtsman in his half million dollar Beneatau with
a full crew, he would probably already be back on shore with his feet up on
the desk asking his secretary to place a call to the insurance company.
You've got to admire her determination not to push the "Easy Button".

--
Roger Long

Struggling to Bermuda
 

Roger ,, I have been watching this for days... she has really been up
against it. This morning she is about 100 kt miles from out.. or at least
that far from easy sailing.

She has been at the tiller for hours. Since she is going toward Bermuda and
the wind is south southwest she is on a broad reach.

This am she had the storm jib up .. and she is out in the cockpit for twelve
hours.

When/if she makes it to Bermuda her friends are flying her back to RI for
some R and R.

She may be nutty but she is tough.

Something I can't figure .. why did she get so far north with the big low
pressure system and all?

I checked the Bermuda weather for marine etc.. If she had stayed south, the
wind is strong, the waves are like 9'.

She could be cruising toward Charleston, SC and then Larry could be giving
her a rub down.

==========
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Is anyone else following Donna Lange's struggle to reach Bermuda? This is
turning into real drama.

Whatever judgements you make about how she got into this mess, it's a good
thing for anyone who goes deepwater to be reminded what reserves of
strength and endurance we carry. All too many people give up too soon and
sometimes even die as a result.

If this were your typical yachtsman in his half million dollar Beneatau
with a full crew, he would probably already be back on shore with his feet
up on the desk asking his secretary to place a call to the insurance
company. You've got to admire her determination not to push the "Easy
Button".

--
Roger Long

Struggling to Bermuda
 

On Apr 18, 8:15 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Roger ,, I have been watching this for days... she has really been up
against it. This morning she is about 100 kt miles from out.. or at least
that far from easy sailing.

She has been at the tiller for hours. Since she is going toward Bermuda and
the wind is south southwest she is on a broad reach.

This am she had the storm jib up .. and she is out in the cockpit for twelve
hours.

When/if she makes it to Bermuda her friends are flying her back to RI for
some R and R.

She may be nutty but she is tough.

Something I can't figure .. why did she get so far north with the big low
pressure system and all?

I checked the Bermuda weather for marine etc.. If she had stayed south, the
wind is strong, the waves are like 9'.

She could be cruising toward Charleston, SC and then Larry could be giving
her a rub down.

=========="Roger Long" wrote in message

...



Is anyone else following Donna Lange's struggle to reach Bermuda? This is
turning into real drama.

Whatever judgements you make about how she got into this mess, it's a good
thing for anyone who goes deepwater to be reminded what reserves of
strength and endurance we carry. All too many people give up too soon and
sometimes even die as a result.

If this were your typical yachtsman in his half million dollar Beneatau
with a full crew, he would probably already be back on shore with his feet
up on the desk asking his secretary to place a call to the insurance
company. You've got to admire her determination not to push the "Easy
Button".

--
Roger Long- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have some friends on a 58' Amel Super Maramu that pulled into
Charelston two days ago to wait out the storm. They got caught in 20 ft
+ seas on the way down to the keys, then the islands. From what they
said, they got the last slip in town since so many were seeking
shelter.

I do not know why anyone thinks Donna is "nutty". I think she has
"True Grit".

Joe

Struggling to Bermuda
 

Joe,, I never said the woman didn't have "true grit" ..

But,, she keeps putting herself in extreme danger, sailing when she
shouldn't.

And remember .. she is alone.


I truely think she has some issues. But that doesn't mean she isn't a good
sailor ..

I just hope she gets home ok,, and figures out why she keeps pushing the
envelope.

YOur friends didn't push the envelope and they are on a much bigger boat
with crew..

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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 8:15 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Roger ,, I have been watching this for days... she has really been up
against it. This morning she is about 100 kt miles from out.. or at
least
that far from easy sailing.

She has been at the tiller for hours. Since she is going toward Bermuda
and
the wind is south southwest she is on a broad reach.

This am she had the storm jib up .. and she is out in the cockpit for
twelve
hours.

When/if she makes it to Bermuda her friends are flying her back to RI for
some R and R.

She may be nutty but she is tough.

Something I can't figure .. why did she get so far north with the big low
pressure system and all?

I checked the Bermuda weather for marine etc.. If she had stayed south,
the
wind is strong, the waves are like 9'.

She could be cruising toward Charleston, SC and then Larry could be
giving
her a rub down.

=========="Roger Long" wrote in message

...



Is anyone else following Donna Lange's struggle to reach Bermuda? This
is
turning into real drama.

Whatever judgements you make about how she got into this mess, it's a
good
thing for anyone who goes deepwater to be reminded what reserves of
strength and endurance we carry. All too many people give up too soon
and
sometimes even die as a result.

If this were your typical yachtsman in his half million dollar Beneatau
with a full crew, he would probably already be back on shore with his
feet
up on the desk asking his secretary to place a call to the insurance
company. You've got to admire her determination not to push the "Easy
Button".

--
Roger Long- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have some friends on a 58' Amel Super Maramu that pulled into
Charelston two days ago to wait out the storm. They got caught in 20 ft
+ seas on the way down to the keys, then the islands. From what they
said, they got the last slip in town since so many were seeking
shelter.

I do not know why anyone thinks Donna is "nutty". I think she has
"True Grit".

Joe

Struggling to Bermuda
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:PgqVh.9166$uF1.1076@trndny04...
Joe,, I never said the woman didn't have "true grit" ..

But,, she keeps putting herself in extreme danger, sailing when she
shouldn't.

And remember .. she is alone.


I truely think she has some issues. But that doesn't mean she isn't a
good sailor ..

I just hope she gets home ok,, and figures out why she keeps pushing the
envelope.

YOur friends didn't push the envelope and they are on a much bigger boat
with crew..

================================================== ===============

I don't really think she's pushing the envelope -- I think the weather is
doing that for her. If she had perfect weather every day, I don't think she
would be in the least bit disappointed.

Struggling to Bermuda
 

KLC,, your posting is stupid..

She keeps going into bad weather. When the weather advisory is for
hurricane conditions to the right but moderate conditions to the left,,, do
ya go right?

The system she is in was forcast in advance. She could have gone to Bermuda
and avoided it. She didn't .. she kept heading for RI.
Now . .. she is in deep doo doo and heading for Bermuda ..

Maybe you are just trying to be a contrarian .. but your input is very dumb.

============


"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:PgqVh.9166$uF1.1076@trndny04...
Joe,, I never said the woman didn't have "true grit" ..

But,, she keeps putting herself in extreme danger, sailing when she
shouldn't.

And remember .. she is alone.


I truely think she has some issues. But that doesn't mean she isn't a
good sailor ..

I just hope she gets home ok,, and figures out why she keeps pushing the
envelope.

YOur friends didn't push the envelope and they are on a much bigger boat
with crew..

================================================== ===============

I don't really think she's pushing the envelope -- I think the weather is
doing that for her. If she had perfect weather every day, I don't think
she would be in the least bit disappointed.

Struggling to Bermuda
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:%XqVh.18386$Yh.17844@trndny03...
KLC,, your posting is stupid..

She keeps going into bad weather. When the weather advisory is for
hurricane conditions to the right but moderate conditions to the left,,,
do ya go right?

The system she is in was forcast in advance. She could have gone to
Bermuda and avoided it. She didn't .. she kept heading for RI.
Now . .. she is in deep doo doo and heading for Bermuda ..

Maybe you are just trying to be a contrarian .. but your input is very
dumb.


I'm not there, neither are you. Your posting is stupid.

But she may have a case of "getthereitis."

Struggling to Bermuda
 

KLC,, do you know anything at all about Donna and her adventures? You don't
seem to.

She is barely surviving. Her boat and her body have taken a huge pounding.

The way I understand it ,, she could have gone to Bermuda but decided to
head on into a very bad situation
as she is heading toware RI.

Thank god I'm not there.. 50 kt wind, huge waves, by herself.

I think you have once again proved what a total asshole you are..


Please,, go do some work on your day sailor.


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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:%XqVh.18386$Yh.17844@trndny03...
KLC,, your posting is stupid..

She keeps going into bad weather. When the weather advisory is for
hurricane conditions to the right but moderate conditions to the left,,,
do ya go right?

The system she is in was forcast in advance. She could have gone to
Bermuda and avoided it. She didn't .. she kept heading for RI.
Now . .. she is in deep doo doo and heading for Bermuda ..

Maybe you are just trying to be a contrarian .. but your input is very
dumb.


I'm not there, neither are you. Your posting is stupid.

But she may have a case of "getthereitis."

Struggling to Bermuda
 

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:27:42 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

The system she is in was forcast in advance. She could have gone to
Bermuda and avoided it. She didn't .. she kept heading for RI.
Now . .. she is in deep doo doo and heading for Bermuda ..

The storm was well forecasted almost a week in advance and she headed
right into the main path as you point out. Unfortunately she seems to
be excercising bad judgement, or failing to get and interpret the
right data.

I wish her well but nothing good will come of this in the end unless
she improves her planning skills. Bermuda is a *very* unforgiving
landfall unless you get it right.

Struggling to Bermuda
 

On Apr 18, 9:52 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Joe,, I never said the woman didn't have "true grit" ..

But,, she keeps putting herself in extreme danger, sailing when she
shouldn't.

Well seems she has a goal to accomplish. I don't know any sailor who
has been at sea for many years who did not find themselves in bad to
extreme weather every onece and awhile.


And remember .. she is alone.

I know that. Sometimes it's better to be alone, don't have to worry
about others screwing things up. I admire solo sailors, captains of
their own destiny.

I truely think she has some issues. But that doesn't mean she isn't a good
sailor ..

Everyone has issues. Maybe the best cure for thoses issues for her is
to focus on an extreme challenge.

I just hope she gets home ok,, and figures out why she keeps pushing the
envelope.

I'm confident she will make it home. Some clowns can go out in 3 ft
seas and it's "Pushing the Envelope" of thier skills. Some can sail in
hurricanes, take roll overs, spend countless hours on the helm, before
they feel they are pushing the envelope. Dreams can often become
challenging, but challenges are what we live for.

YOur friends didn't push the envelope and they are on a much bigger boat
with crew..

Well anyone willing to fork out over a million bucks for a french boat
most likely lives a pretty damn pampered life. They IMO rank with most
weekend warriors, seeking bimbos and gin, more than a true challenge
of their skills.

Joe

Struggling to Bermuda
 

Yo.. Joe Joe..

What is wrong with "bimbos and gin"?

I don't drink but if I did ... bimbos and gin sound like a pretty good
cocktail and doing it on a million dollar boat.

I sense some enviousness in your posting .. no million dollar boat?

Go down and get yourself a bottle of gin..

Bimbos? Now,, that can't be purchased, it must be earned.

=============


..
On Apr 18, 9:52 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Joe,, I never said the woman didn't have "true grit" ..

But,, she keeps putting herself in extreme danger, sailing when she
shouldn't.

Well seems she has a goal to accomplish. I don't know any sailor who
has been at sea for many years who did not find themselves in bad to
extreme weather every onece and awhile.


And remember .. she is alone.

I know that. Sometimes it's better to be alone, don't have to worry
about others screwing things up. I admire solo sailors, captains of
their own destiny.

I truely think she has some issues. But that doesn't mean she isn't a
good
sailor ..

Everyone has issues. Maybe the best cure for thoses issues for her is
to focus on an extreme challenge.

I just hope she gets home ok,, and figures out why she keeps pushing the
envelope.

I'm confident she will make it home. Some clowns can go out in 3 ft
seas and it's "Pushing the Envelope" of thier skills. Some can sail in
hurricanes, take roll overs, spend countless hours on the helm, before
they feel they are pushing the envelope. Dreams can often become
challenging, but challenges are what we live for.

YOur friends didn't push the envelope and they are on a much bigger boat
with crew..

Well anyone willing to fork out over a million bucks for a french boat
most likely lives a pretty damn pampered life. They IMO rank with most
weekend warriors, seeking bimbos and gin, more than a true challenge
of their skills.

Joe

Struggling to Bermuda
 

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:19:35 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Bimbos? Now,, that can't be purchased

Are you sure about that?

Struggling to Bermuda
 

On Apr 18, 12:19 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Yo.. Joe Joe..

What is wrong with "bimbos and gin"?

Nothing, if thats your challenge to accomplish, just not my thing.

I don't drink but if I did ... bimbos and gin sound like a pretty good
cocktail and doing it on a million dollar boat.

I sense some enviousness in your posting .. no million dollar boat?

No, not worth a million, but IMO will out preform most million dollar
boats. I'm a bit enviousness, as I was invited on the trip but have to
work and earn a living instead. That and I'm hauling the boat for a
new bottom job ect..ect..here in a week or so.

If we can break away we may meet them in Trinidad later this summer.

Go down and get yourself a bottle of gin..

When I was younger Boodles Gin and Tonic was my favorite...now I get
massive headaches drinking it...guess I'm getting old, or just have
less tolarence for headaches.

Bimbos? Now,, that can't be purchased, it must be earned.

No bimbos for me. I've been with my best friend (wife) for just under
25 years now, and would like to have another 25 with her.

Joe

Struggling to Bermuda
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:27:42 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

The system she is in was forcast in advance. She could have gone to
Bermuda and avoided it. She didn't .. she kept heading for RI.
Now . .. she is in deep doo doo and heading for Bermuda ..

The storm was well forecasted almost a week in advance and she headed
right into the main path as you point out. Unfortunately she seems to
be excercising bad judgement, or failing to get and interpret the
right data.

I wish her well but nothing good will come of this in the end unless
she improves her planning skills. Bermuda is a *very* unforgiving
landfall unless you get it right.


It could very well be that given her condition she chose to avoid Bermuda
and its hazards in favor of heading for safer landfall. It strikes me that
she has made some poor decisions -- but I don't know what information she
has gotten. It's easy to be a critic, safe at home. NeverEven Sawaboat
proves that.

Struggling to Bermuda
 

Captain Roger ,, I just checked her web site.. Seems to be saying things are
getting better for her.

The web site says that she is going to be flown to RI, get some rest, and
when strong enough and her boat in decent shape, she will be off for RI.

I figure if she is delayed long enough ,, I may be in Bristol with my boat
when she comes in. That would be kinda neat.

I will tell her "Donna, you are nuts, but your a damn good sailor".

Honesty is the best policy.


=====================
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Is anyone else following Donna Lange's struggle to reach Bermuda? This is
turning into real drama.

Whatever judgements you make about how she got into this mess, it's a good
thing for anyone who goes deepwater to be reminded what reserves of
strength and endurance we carry. All too many people give up too soon and
sometimes even die as a result.

If this were your typical yachtsman in his half million dollar Beneatau
with a full crew, he would probably already be back on shore with his feet
up on the desk asking his secretary to place a call to the insurance
company. You've got to admire her determination not to push the "Easy
Button".

--
Roger Long

Struggling to Bermuda
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:LRoVh.3561$BS2.2880@trndny01:

She could be cruising toward Charleston, SC and then Larry could be
giving her a rub down.



My table awaits....(c;

Larry
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