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NE Sailboat April 17th 07 01:37 AM

Donna Lange
 
Should have written 5* longitude west of Bermuda..

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285 miles ?? Humm.. well, she does have the wind at her back, or quarter.
I don't know the sea condition.. if the storm is subsiding
then the sea should start to quiet down..

Said on Bermuda weather site that the wind is south, southeast..

But it is blowing hard.

She is two days out ,, that is my figuring. But as she approaches the
weather and sea will get better..

Wow...

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Did she not know that this weather was approaching? And if she knew, why
didn't she stay south of the front..

crazy,,

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:37:42 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Charlie,,, I just looked and she posted that she was at Lat 32* N .. 69*
w.

She is 5* lat west of Bermuda..

And the wind is blowing from the south/southwest toward Bermuda.

Would seem to me that she could make it to Bermuda ..

But.. I'm not out in the middle of it.


And damn glad I'm not.


Website says Bermuda is about 285 miles east. The biggest factor right now
is
her own condition. She must be completely exhausted. That can make big
trouble
out of nothing.

CWM





Roger Long April 17th 07 11:04 AM

Donna Lange
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote

Did she not know that this weather was approaching? And if she knew, why
didn't she stay south of the front..


I've been reading her reports daily since just before Cape Horn and it's
interesting to follow her thinking. She could have easily been in Bermuda
before the storm but didn't want to extend the length of her trip. She had
weather reports but thought, how bad could it be after the roaring 40's?
She was basically making some of the same judgement errors as S&L which
shows how much less forgiving rocks are than waves.

The kind of voyage she is making is much easier in some ways than coastal
crusing and much harder than others. Despite all the miles behind her, I
wouldn't charter her my boat for a cruise along the coast of Maine. That
takes a lot more navigation and piloting skill as well as boat handling in
confined waters. She still doesn't have the experience for that. Offshore
sailing generally requires less skill but the toughness to keep functioning
in extreme fatigue and apalling conditions are absolutely essential. You
can get the skill with experience but the toughness is harder to come by.
You have it or you don't which is why so many are banging on keyboards
talking about cruising instead of being out there. Skill in offshore sailing
is a big factor at times. With more experience, she probably would still be
riding on her sea anchor. Still, this mistake just means she has lost an
option. She isn't banging on rocks.

My concern for her now is making the landfall in Bermuda. She will be
coming from the direction of the extensive reefs that she could hit before
getting any good visual references. She carries few charts and may not even
have one for a place she didn't plan to visit. She managed to run into
South America (which she presumably knew was the). If it were not for
the extensive kelp beds and padding it provided against the rocks, the story
would have ended there.

--
Roger Long



Roger Long April 17th 07 11:39 AM

Donna Lange
 
What mistake?

Well, as an engineer, I know that objective data can look quite different
depending on your mindset when you start looking at it.

If you look at your weather reports in terms of your schedule, you are very
apt to come up with a different answer than if you look at your schedule in
terms of the weather reports.

--
Roger Long



NE Sailboat April 17th 07 12:25 PM

Donna Lange
 
Roger ,, I'm not sure but I think it is the Pardey's who wrote something to
the effect:

Cruising under sail is getting from one place to the next as pleasantly as
possible.. or at least that was the meaning of their thoughts.

Could be wrong on the author .. but the thinking seems to be sound.


While I admire Donna's toughness, I also think she is reckless. She isn't
the first sailor to sail around the globe. Many have done it.
Most have a crew. And most of the sailors who are off cruising around the
globe watch the weather, the seasons, and plan accordingly.

No one would set out during hurricane season to cross the Atlantic, it would
be crazy. The smart sailor waits, plans according to the season and
weather. Then heads off for a safe pleasant trip.

I almost seems to me as if Donna wants to push her boat and herself to the
edge, so her accomplishment of arriving is considered a
major accomplishment, not just a pleasant cruise.

Watching and reading of her near disaster sailing is getting tiresome.

I do hope she gets to Bermuda .. and then calls it quits.

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"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
What mistake?

Well, as an engineer, I know that objective data can look quite different
depending on your mindset when you start looking at it.

If you look at your weather reports in terms of your schedule, you are
very apt to come up with a different answer than if you look at your
schedule in terms of the weather reports.

--
Roger Long





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