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[email protected] April 14th 07 10:53 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Multidimensionalman/
These young people who sacrifice themselves have a whole life ahead of
them, with prospects of love, children, loving parents to look after,
a career, travel to see other lands. A whole world to explore, and the
natural human revulsion to killing anybody, and in particular
themselves.
To just classify them as "terrorists" is a simplistic way of thinking.
A terrorist will kill others, but not himself. And he will only kill
others so as to save himself.

The suicide bomber has been taught by his religious teachers that he
has a "cause"
And that when he dies he will go to "heaven" to be received by pretty
girls who will receive him and treat him like a hero.

Let us first discuss heaven, and then we will talk about the cause.
When we die our physical body decomposes, and our spiritual body goes
to the Astral Dimension.
This Astral Dimension is also on earth but cannot be seen because it
vibrates at a different rate. It is described in detail on the
internet. And the most notable points about it are that it consists of
7 levels, from which we can note:
The lowest level which can be described as "hell", while one of the
upper levels is part of our spiritual body, namely the Upper Thinking
Mind. The intermediate levels are where we live normal lives with
family and friends. There is sex, but no children.
The most unfortunate thing about the Astral, is the Hell level. Those
who go there can remain hundreds and hundreds of years fighting and
suffering, until they learn their lessons. And these lessons are
mainly love and forgiveness. When they decide to love and forgive
they are joyfully led by Astral Angels out of Hell, and to their
family and friends in the upper levels.
This is a fact which is useful for the prospective suicide bomber to
keep in mind.
Namely that if does not love and forgive his enemy, he will go hell on
dying. And if he does love and forgive he will not become a suicide
bomber.

Now let's talk about "the cause". We can assume that the largest
percentages of cases involving desperate causes and injustices,
sufficient enough to cause people to kill themselves, are the events
in Israel and Palestine. The USA is involved since she is a supporter
of Israel. The solution is not to kill more and more "terrorists",
since these people will only reincarnate back on earth, and in
carefully chosen areas.
Neither is the solution to tell the parties to "negotiate a peace".
Feelings on both sides are too tense for meaningful peace
negotiations.
The solution can only come from the outside, from the one country
which is supporting Israel with substantial financing and armaments:
The USA.
And it has to be imposed! By the USA, with the Arab League as advisor.
By imposing a solution the USA will not only be saving the world from
a daily escalating state of tension, but will be helping her friends
in both countries.

Joe Zaidan.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Multidimensionalman/


Leonard April 14th 07 04:16 PM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
On Apr 14, 2:53 am, " wrote:
Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Multidimensionalman/
These young people who sacrifice themselves have a whole life ahead of
them, with prospects of love, children, loving parents to look after,
a career, travel to see other lands. A whole world to explore, and the
natural human revulsion to killing anybody, and in particular
themselves.
To just classify them as "terrorists" is a simplistic way of thinking.
A terrorist will kill others, but not himself. And he will only kill
others so as to save himself.

The suicide bomber has been taught by his religious teachers that he
has a "cause"
And that when he dies he will go to "heaven" to be received by pretty
girls who will receive him and treat him like a hero.

Let us first discuss heaven, and then we will talk about the cause.
When we die our physical body decomposes, and our spiritual body goes
to the Astral Dimension.
This Astral Dimension is also on earth but cannot be seen because it
vibrates at a different rate. It is described in detail on the
internet. And the most notable points about it are that it consists of
7 levels, from which we can note:
The lowest level which can be described as "hell", while one of the
upper levels is part of our spiritual body, namely the Upper Thinking
Mind. The intermediate levels are where we live normal lives with
family and friends. There is sex, but no children.
The most unfortunate thing about the Astral, is the Hell level. Those
who go there can remain hundreds and hundreds of years fighting and
suffering, until they learn their lessons. And these lessons are
mainly love and forgiveness. When they decide to love and forgive
they are joyfully led by Astral Angels out of Hell, and to their
family and friends in the upper levels.
This is a fact which is useful for the prospective suicide bomber to
keep in mind.
Namely that if does not love and forgive his enemy, he will go hell on
dying. And if he does love and forgive he will not become a suicide
bomber.

Now let's talk about "the cause". We can assume that the largest
percentages of cases involving desperate causes and injustices,
sufficient enough to cause people to kill themselves, are the events
in Israel and Palestine. The USA is involved since she is a supporter
of Israel. The solution is not to kill more and more "terrorists",
since these people will only reincarnate back on earth, and in
carefully chosen areas.
Neither is the solution to tell the parties to "negotiate a peace".
Feelings on both sides are too tense for meaningful peace
negotiations.
The solution can only come from the outside, from the one country
which is supporting Israel with substantial financing and armaments:
The USA.
And it has to be imposed! By the USA, with the Arab League as advisor.
By imposing a solution the USA will not only be saving the world from
a daily escalating state of tension, but will be helping her friends
in both countries.

Joe Zaidan.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Multidimensionalman/


They kill themselves because they are CRAZY!


Larry April 15th 07 02:19 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
" wrote in
ups.com:

The suicide bomber has been taught by his religious teachers that he
has a "cause"
And that when he dies he will go to "heaven" to be received by pretty
girls who will receive him and treat him like a hero.


I read somewhere, or saw the statistic in a documentary, that over 5,500
people per DAY, across the planet, die in the name of one religion or the
other. They've been killing each other off, precisely as Darwin predicted,
for thousands and thousands of years, "natural selection".

That goes on, unabated by education, sanity, logic, etc. Homo Sapiens is
about the only self-destructive animal on the planet.....

Larry
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Larry April 15th 07 02:20 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
"Leonard" wrote in news:1176563782.742420.303130
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

They kill themselves because they are CRAZY!


BRAINWASHED is closer....

Larry
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Capt. JG April 15th 07 03:04 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
"Larry" wrote in message
...
" wrote in
ups.com:

The suicide bomber has been taught by his religious teachers that he
has a "cause"
And that when he dies he will go to "heaven" to be received by pretty
girls who will receive him and treat him like a hero.


I read somewhere, or saw the statistic in a documentary, that over 5,500
people per DAY, across the planet, die in the name of one religion or the
other. They've been killing each other off, precisely as Darwin
predicted,
for thousands and thousands of years, "natural selection".

That goes on, unabated by education, sanity, logic, etc. Homo Sapiens is
about the only self-destructive animal on the planet.....

Larry
--



Ummm... the religious right is going to have a fit with that kind of logic!
g

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bob April 15th 07 05:59 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
On Apr 14, 8:16 am, "Leonard" wrote:

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others


They kill themselves because they are CRAZY!- Hide quoted text -


Hi:
That is what I thought too. That is until I talked to an old-timer a
few years back. He was a 20 year old co-pilot flying a B-17 from GB to
Germany during WW II.

I can not remember the exact casualty rate, that is, how many planes
dropped from the sky, but I remember it was horrible odds against ever
walking on land again. The old guy said it was simple suicide flying
daylight missions over Germany. Maybe some of you history buffs can
find the exact odds of a B-17 crew making it back to GB. Was it
something like 7:10 never made it back? Would you call that suicide?
The old guy did. But he did it.

Does anyone else know of other terrible actions US servicemen went
willingly into knowing it meant certain death???
Bob


Larry April 15th 07 03:50 PM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in
:

Ummm... the religious right is going to have a fit with that kind of
logic! g



And, they are the ones with their fingers poised on the promised
armagheddon they so strongly believe in. I think the stupid asses think
as soon as they press the button, there's gonna be some force that sucks
them outa their cars into that utopia with all the virgins.

Christians have as bad a history of genocide as Jews and Muslims.
However, they have, recently at least, had far better genocide machines
to carry it out.

As this insanity spreads and becomes even more rooted (think American
religious zealots since Jim Jones), we come closer and closer to that
magic day of human extinction when that button is pressed by the minions
of the religious right. Which cult matters not. The results will be
identical.

Larry
--
There's one in my area who loves screwing young girls:
http://www.isitso.org/guide/stair.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Stair
http://rick-ross.org/groups/rgstair.html
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/commun...geid=21724&ck=
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/stair-01.html
The rest of the money grubbing preachers attack him because he's bad for
business.....their businesses.

NE Sailboat April 16th 07 12:36 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
You are blaming suicide bombers in Iraq on the relegious right in the USA?

Are you totally F'n nuts?

Give me a break..


=======================
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
:

Ummm... the religious right is going to have a fit with that kind of
logic! g



And, they are the ones with their fingers poised on the promised
armagheddon they so strongly believe in. I think the stupid asses think
as soon as they press the button, there's gonna be some force that sucks
them outa their cars into that utopia with all the virgins.

Christians have as bad a history of genocide as Jews and Muslims.
However, they have, recently at least, had far better genocide machines
to carry it out.

As this insanity spreads and becomes even more rooted (think American
religious zealots since Jim Jones), we come closer and closer to that
magic day of human extinction when that button is pressed by the minions
of the religious right. Which cult matters not. The results will be
identical.

Larry
--
There's one in my area who loves screwing young girls:
http://www.isitso.org/guide/stair.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Stair
http://rick-ross.org/groups/rgstair.html
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/commun...geid=21724&ck=
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/stair-01.html
The rest of the money grubbing preachers attack him because he's bad for
business.....their businesses.




Peter Hendra April 16th 07 01:55 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
Hey,
The Overcomer Ministry has a short wave radio spot. I have listened to
him and his pretence of being able to read Biblical Greek -
entertaining if it wasn't so scary.

Peter
Larry
--
There's one in my area who loves screwing young girls:
http://www.isitso.org/guide/stair.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Stair
http://rick-ross.org/groups/rgstair.html
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/commun...geid=21724&ck=
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/stair-01.html
The rest of the money grubbing preachers attack him because he's bad for
business.....their businesses.



Larry April 16th 07 04:54 AM

Why do suicide bombers kill themselves and others
 
Peter Hendra wrote in
:

Hey,
The Overcomer Ministry has a short wave radio spot. I have listened to
him and his pretence of being able to read Biblical Greek -
entertaining if it wasn't so scary.



Rev Stair had a dream of owning his own pirate radio station aboard a
retired Canadian offshore fishing vessel. His captain for the project
was an American who lives in St Kitts/Nevis, who is a ham radio operator
I met on the local 2 meter VHF repeater when he brought the boat to a
local boatyard to install the 70KW HF/MF broadcast transmitter into the
old fish hold directly under its main hatch. The boat was old, but quite
large. Two 100KW diesel gensets were welded to the main deck fore and
aft to power it. Extra diesel tanks were installed every place they
would fit to power it between trips to port for fuel. It drank lots of
diesel at full power. The transmitter was purchased as scrap from Voice
Of America. It's picture is he
http://hawkins.pair.com/voanc/voanc07.jpg

The captain got worried about the motives of the bearded "brothers" from
the cult's commune in Canadys, SC, carrying a handgun at all times. He
wanted out, as did his elderly engineer, who had formerly helped him
install a big FM transmitter into an old sailboat they anchored in
international waters off NY City to broadcast pirate radio to NYC from a
microwave transmitter ashore at the studio when FCC wouldn't give them a
license. (The Navy sank the sailboat after removing them by force.)

So, they lit this beast off at Halsey-Cannon Boatyard in the Wando River,
SC, tied up about 50' off the Boatyard dock. 70,000 watts of HF power
lit every flourescent light at the boatyard, briefly, until the 300,000
volt feedthrough insulator that fed the RF through the hold's hatch cover
to the T cage antenna between two big towers welded to the bow/stern
exploded...right over my head, by the way. Way too much fun was had. On
top of the transmitter in the webpage picture, notice the big insulators
coming out the top of the power amp cabinet, 2nd from the right with the
big final tubes in it? A copper pipe makeshift balanced feed connected
that to the bottom of the feedthrough conductor inside the big insulator.

As a souvenir of this fiasco, I kept the part that didn't fully explode,
just had a little arc until we got the transmitter shut down. You can
see me holding the insulator on my QRZ ham webpage at:
http://www.qrz.com/callsign
Just put w4csc into the callsign search box top left of the page....

That little black burn mark was caused by excessive ionization of us all
inside the hold....We glowed blue for a few minutes! When it broke off,
the bolt holding the shaft down the middle of it kept it from being
smashed. The top looks like what I'm holding in my hand....it simply
exploded into a million pieces to small to save.

Noticing the "Big Signal" at the FCC monitoring stations from subsequent
test transmissions near 7.4 Mhz, FCC swooped down on the boat with a
crane stolen from the contractor Navy shipyard and confiscated all the
gear, even the broadcast studio on the main deck. The local paper showed
the FCC engineer proudly displaying the contraband, holding a 35 watt
Heathkit CW ham transmitter up for the photo op, making him look like a
complete idiot to anyone who knew what it was. The captain fled to St
Kitts and the old engineer vanished, leaving the brothers and RG Stair
holding the bag, so to speak.

It wasn't going to happen, anyways. The intensive RF current flowing out
of the hull into the salt water was just eating holes into the hull they
could not stop. FCC did them a favor and saved lives....(c; The first
indication was when the fresh water tank suddenly got all salty,
overnight as its hull wall flooded it....not good....

You have to hear Rev Stair in person to see how scary religious zealots
really are....if you don't know Ted Armstrong or Jim Jones.

Larry
--
I must admit glowing blue WAS a lot of fun. It's why I guffaw so hard
when someone warns me about cellphone radiation hazards at .15 watts...
(c; Too funny.

PPS - Don't send emails to the account listed...its bogus.


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