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claus April 11th 07 03:31 AM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 
1) too many ignorant subscribers
2) too many off-topic posts
3) too much trash talk
4) people here are losers
5) most people don't even know what sailing is, they have pitiful little
motor boats, I've been to the rec.boats.cruising picture site. If you
liars can cruise in those ugly tiny little runabouts then you're
dreaming. There were maybe three or four boats shown that one would be
able to cruise in.
6) the most boring subscribers I've ever seen in any group.

Good riddance to all of you ******s.

Wilbur Hubbard



Wilbur Hubbard April 11th 07 02:33 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"claus" wrote in message
...
1) too many ignorant subscribers
2) too many off-topic posts
3) too much trash talk
4) people here are losers
5) most people don't even know what sailing is, they have pitiful
little
motor boats, I've been to the rec.boats.cruising picture site. If you
liars can cruise in those ugly tiny little runabouts then you're
dreaming. There were maybe three or four boats shown that one would be
able to cruise in.
6) the most boring subscribers I've ever seen in any group.

Good riddance to all of you ******s.

Wilbur Hubbard



Somebody is forging my headers and frogging me? I hate this useless
group but I can't help it of somebody else assumes my identity. It's a
free country.

Wilbur Hubbard


Two meter troll April 11th 07 10:35 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 
On Apr 10, 7:31 pm, "claus" wrote:
1) too many ignorant subscribers
2) too many off-topic posts
3) too much trash talk
4) people here are losers
5) most people don't even know what sailing is, they have pitiful little
motor boats, I've been to the rec.boats.cruising picture site. If you
liars can cruise in those ugly tiny little runabouts then you're
dreaming. There were maybe three or four boats shown that one would be
able to cruise in.
6) the most boring subscribers I've ever seen in any group.

Good riddance to all of you ******s.

Wilbur Hubbard


cause he is a ****** and does not get that he is useing a registerd
version of winblows and his ole shows on all of his posts, as does his
processors serial number ect. I am now tired of listening to this
bilge.

For those of you who want to check you can get full headers of Wilburs
posts both now and a month ago and its the same machine and OLE.




Wilbur Hubbard April 11th 07 11:46 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Two meter troll" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 10, 7:31 pm, "claus" wrote:
1) too many ignorant subscribers
2) too many off-topic posts
3) too much trash talk
4) people here are losers
5) most people don't even know what sailing is, they have pitiful
little
motor boats, I've been to the rec.boats.cruising picture site. If you
liars can cruise in those ugly tiny little runabouts then you're
dreaming. There were maybe three or four boats shown that one would
be
able to cruise in.
6) the most boring subscribers I've ever seen in any group.

Good riddance to all of you ******s.

Wilbur Hubbard


cause he is a ****** and does not get that he is useing a registerd
version of winblows and his ole shows on all of his posts, as does his
processors serial number ect. I am now tired of listening to this
bilge.

For those of you who want to check you can get full headers of Wilburs
posts both now and a month ago and its the same machine and OLE.


Is this what you're referring to?

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028

Ha ha ha. So lame are you!

Check some other subscriber's headers. It looks to me like several
people have the same version of Outlook Express as I do. Does that mean
Roger Long is me? Does it mean Todd is me? Ansley Sawyer? Claus? Boy, it
looks like I'm half the group. :-)

Wilbur Hubbard


Two meter troll April 11th 07 11:50 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 
On Apr 10, 7:31 pm, "claus" wrote:
1) too many ignorant subscribers
2) too many off-topic posts
3) too much trash talk
4) people here are losers
5) most people don't even know what sailing is, they have pitiful little
motor boats, I've been to the rec.boats.cruising picture site. If you
liars can cruise in those ugly tiny little runabouts then you're
dreaming. There were maybe three or four boats shown that one would be
able to cruise in.
6) the most boring subscribers I've ever seen in any group.

Good riddance to all of you ******s.

Wilbur Hubbard


cause he thinks that his terminal in anonymouse; he also thinks his
security is good and his processor serial is not stamped on his
headers, typical. some dumb guy behind a key board spouting bilge
because he thinks no one can find him and beat his head in.

Pathetic really but then what do i know I'm just a dumb ol fishermen.


Two meter troll April 12th 07 02:16 AM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 
On Apr 11, 4:12 pm, Dave wrote:
On 11 Apr 2007 15:50:20 -0700, "Two meter troll" said:

he also thinks his
security is good and his processor serial is not stamped on his
headers,


I don't know how to break it to you gently, troll, but he's right about the
headers and you're full of ****. Your IP is posted in your headers. But his
isn't. There's a reason for that.


try again he is right about some of the header but not all of it.
Duh my IP is in my header at least as far as the router i am currently
on.
play again.


Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 07:56 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 11 Apr 2007 18:12:09 -0500, Dave wrote:

On 11 Apr 2007 15:50:20 -0700, "Two meter troll"
said:

he also thinks his
security is good and his processor serial is not stamped on his
headers,


I don't know how to break it to you gently, troll, but he's right
about the
headers and you're full of ****. Your IP is posted in your headers.
But his
isn't. There's a reason for that.


Are you sure that no one can trace him?



Without a subpoena to my NSP and their willingness to comply, I cannot
be traced.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 07:57 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 11 Apr 2007 18:16:13 -0700, "Two meter troll"
said:

I don't know how to break it to you gently, troll, but he's right
about the
headers and you're full of ****. Your IP is posted in your headers.
But his
isn't. There's a reason for that.


try again he is right about some of the header but not all of it.
Duh my IP is in my header at least as far as the router i am currently
on.
play again.


Please explain. What header entry do you believe reveals his IP
address?


The idiot seems to think the software version of Outlook Express is some
sort of CPU identity code. What a loser!

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 08:01 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:59:41 GMT, Charlie Morgan
said:

Please explain. What header entry do you believe reveals his IP
address?



66.36.241.104


No. I don't know where you go that one but try 76.105.134.82


?????
Where in his headers?


Duh! Look for yourself . . . Below are two meter troll's complete
headers.

Path:
be11.phx!hwmnpeer02.phx!hw-filter.phx!hwmnpeer01.phx!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.high winds-media.com!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!n76g2 000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: "Two meter troll"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.cruising
Subject: Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
Date: 11 Apr 2007 15:50:20 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 23
Message-ID: .com
References:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.105.134.82
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1176331821 17965 127.0.0.1 (11 Apr 2007
22:50:21 GMT)
X-Complaints-To:
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:50:21 +0000 (UTC)
In-Reply-To:
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9)
Gecko/20060906 SUSE/1.8_seamonkey_1.0.7-1.1
SeaMonkey/1.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Complaints-To:

Injection-Info: n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=76.105.134.82;
posting-account=QIYDSw0AAADp0ptUUXcQMouyWnm4cLOD
Xref: Hurricane-Charley rec.boats.cruising:57836
X-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:50:32 MST (be11.phx)

Plug two meter troll's NNTP posting host into ARIN and you see this:

OrgName: Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
OrgID: CMCS
Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Blvd
City: Mt Laurel
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 08054
Country: US

NetRange: 76.96.0.0 - 76.111.255.255
CIDR: 76.96.0.0/12
NetName: JUMPSTART-5
NetHandle: NET-76-96-0-0-1
Parent: NET-76-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS.INFLOW.PA.BO.COMCAST.NET
NameServer: DNS.CMC.CO.DENVER.COMCAST.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2007-01-02
Updated: 2007-01-02

RAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
RAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance
RAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272
RAbuseEmail:


RTechHandle: IC161-ARIN
RTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc
RTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200
RTechEmail:


OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance
OrgAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272
OrgAbuseEmail:


OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN
OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc
OrgTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200
OrgTechEmail:



I hope this helps. Now, for an exercise in frustration try to determine
from whence my posts originate. Can't do it without a subpeona to my
NSP? Yes, that's correct, sir.


Wilbur Hubbard.


Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 08:34 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:01:51 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

"Dave" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:59:41 GMT, Charlie Morgan
said:

Please explain. What header entry do you believe reveals his IP
address?


66.36.241.104


No. I don't know where you go that one but try 76.105.134.82


?????
Where in his headers?


Duh! Look for yourself . . . Below are two meter troll's complete
headers.


What is it about "his" that you don't understand, Neal?


Try refreshing the list of posts in your newsreader. Apparently you are
missing one or more and are confused. When you asked the above, "Where
in his headers" you were replying to Charlie Morgan (aka Binary Bill)
who wrote:

On 12 Apr 2007 09:31:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On 11 Apr 2007 18:16:13 -0700, "Two meter troll"
said:

I don't know how to break it to you gently, troll, but he's right
about the
headers and you're full of ****. Your IP is posted in your headers.
But his
isn't. There's a reason for that.


try again he is right about some of the header but not all of it.
Duh my IP is in my header at least as far as the router i am currently
on.
play again.


Please explain. What header entry do you believe reveals his IP
address?



66.36.241.104

CWM

Now do you see it is YOU who is confused?

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 09:29 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:34:32 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Now do you see it is YOU who is confused?


Let me put this in terms even Neal can understand:

Charlie, which of Neal's header entries do you believe reveals Neal's
IP
address?



That's even more confusing since there's no "Neal" posting in this
thread. Doh! But, perhaps you think I, Wilbur Hubbard, am Neal. And, if
so, there is no place in my headers where it gives any hint of an
origination point. (ISP) Since people seem to think I, Wilbur Hubbard,
am a troll and they love to try to deprive me of my rights to post on
Usenet. They continue to holler abuse and they continue to send in
bogus abuse complaints. I use up to a dozen different NSPs none of which
list IP information. The only way to get IP information from my chosen
NSPs is via subpoena. Good luck getting one of them just because I call
you a drug abusing faggot or even a nappy-headed hoe or offend you in
some other way. A judge will laugh you right out of court. A known
netKKKop like Jonathan Ganz, for example, uses constant complaints to an
ISP when he can find one hoping to deprive an adversary whose views he
disagrees with of an internet connection. He got an alt.sailing.asa
subscriber by the name of Capt. Mooron booted off his ISP knowing there
was only one ISP in town. I am smarter than that. Let psychos like Ganz
complain all they want to NSPs. Should they happen to succeed with one
provider there are hundreds more to employ. He can't win but he keeps
trying. It gives me great pleasure when I think of all the work he does
and all the time he spends (and all for naught) and how frustrated he
must be when he remains impotent - a state btw, that is consistent with
his daily life activities off Usenet.

Wilbur Hubbard


Anon April 12th 07 10:55 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 
I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/




Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 11:45 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Anon" wrote in message
...
I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to
me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/




Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaahha! Another loser.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard April 12th 07 11:56 PM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Anon" wrote in message
...
I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to
me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/


Cgocable.net. That sounds sorta familiar? Canadian, eh? Who do I know
in the Niagara Falls area. Probably nobody but I bet Capt. Neal does.

Wilbur Hubbard


Anon April 13th 07 12:09 AM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:55:21 -0400, "Anon" said:


I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to

me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/


Shoemaker, stick to your last. You're right. You're no expert.



You and I are both right - I am no expert, but I am keen to learn.

I am interested to hear from an expert (are you one?) on just how the
headers of a usenet message (any one) are deciphered .

I have no interest in hubbard/neal or whoever it is that seems to be seeking
attention. But, it is clear that this person uses
http://www.usenet-news.net/ as a news server. Anyone disagree with that? And
this can be accessed from anywhere - right? So how would YOU trace the
actual message source? I am keen to learn!

BTW - Could the Terranet guess have hit a NERVE? Seems to have - what else
would cause someone to "type" Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaahha! ? :)



Don White April 13th 07 12:14 AM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"Anon" wrote in message
...
I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/


Cgocable.net. That sounds sorta familiar? Canadian, eh? Who do I know in
the Niagara Falls area. Probably nobody but I bet Capt. Neal does.

Wilbur Hubbard


Up here Terra Nova is usually associated with the province of Newfoundland.
example.. http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/nl/terranova/index_E.asp



Wilbur Hubbard April 13th 07 12:25 AM

Why is Wilbur (a.k.a Captain Neal) still here?
 

"Anon" wrote in message
...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:55:21 -0400, "Anon"
said:


I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks
to

me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/


Shoemaker, stick to your last. You're right. You're no expert.



You and I are both right - I am no expert, but I am keen to learn.

I am interested to hear from an expert (are you one?) on just how the
headers of a usenet message (any one) are deciphered .

I have no interest in hubbard/neal or whoever it is that seems to be
seeking
attention. But, it is clear that this person uses
http://www.usenet-news.net/ as a news server. Anyone disagree with
that? And
this can be accessed from anywhere - right? So how would YOU trace the
actual message source? I am keen to learn!

BTW - Could the Terranet guess have hit a NERVE? Seems to have - what
else
would cause someone to "type" Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaahha! ? :)



Maybe such a confident incorrect guess would cause it? Or maybe it was
well-known that Capt. Neal did useTerranova.net when he was posting to
alt.sailing.asa. All one has to do is google some of his old posts. But,
surely you don't think a world cruiser like the good captain would keep
the same old ISP that's limited to one geographical area?

Wilbur Hubbard



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