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Kenyon stove
I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a
Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North |
Kenyon stove
I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a
Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? BRBR These stoves use denatured alchohol. If you have never fired up one of these stoves before, be VERY careful to follow the directions for lighting them. Very easy to have a flareup. |
Kenyon stove
I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a
Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? BRBR These stoves use denatured alchohol. If you have never fired up one of these stoves before, be VERY careful to follow the directions for lighting them. Very easy to have a flareup. |
Kenyon stove
I agree with Baybyter. I had a similar model Kenyon and ended up with a fire
due to spilled primer alchohol. I then converted it to kerosene (with burners provided by Kenyon, about $75). That was a waste of money, still needed to use a primer fuel and the stove smoked a lot. The reason I mention the kerosene conversion is the possibility that yours my have been converted. Just smell the tank and you should be able to tell. I ended up giving mine away. It was the Kenyon alchohol and elect. model with the burner in the middle of the electric element. Be careful or upgrade to a safer stove. -- My opinion and experience. FWIW Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Kenyon stove
I agree with Baybyter. I had a similar model Kenyon and ended up with a fire
due to spilled primer alchohol. I then converted it to kerosene (with burners provided by Kenyon, about $75). That was a waste of money, still needed to use a primer fuel and the stove smoked a lot. The reason I mention the kerosene conversion is the possibility that yours my have been converted. Just smell the tank and you should be able to tell. I ended up giving mine away. It was the Kenyon alchohol and elect. model with the burner in the middle of the electric element. Be careful or upgrade to a safer stove. -- My opinion and experience. FWIW Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Kenyon stove
By the way, if you keep it, denatured alcohol is MUCH cheaper from the
paint department at Home Depot or other warehouse hardware store in the gallon can.......than say We$t Marine..... Paint an anchor or wheel on the cheap can to marinize it before using it in the stove.... Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Kenyon stove
By the way, if you keep it, denatured alcohol is MUCH cheaper from the
paint department at Home Depot or other warehouse hardware store in the gallon can.......than say We$t Marine..... Paint an anchor or wheel on the cheap can to marinize it before using it in the stove.... Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
Kenyon stove
I found some good information on Kenyon stoves at the following web site.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/cruising...toveinstr.html You want to know what you're doing with these old stoves to minimize the chance of a flare up. I'm pretty happy with mine now that I know how to operate it. Jason C&C 27 Ithaca, NY "Alvin North" wrote in message ink.net... I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North |
Kenyon stove
I found some good information on Kenyon stoves at the following web site.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/cruising...toveinstr.html You want to know what you're doing with these old stoves to minimize the chance of a flare up. I'm pretty happy with mine now that I know how to operate it. Jason C&C 27 Ithaca, NY "Alvin North" wrote in message ink.net... I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North |
Kenyon stove
Alvin North wrote:
I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
Kenyon stove
Alvin North wrote:
I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
Kenyon stove
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message ...
Alvin North wrote: I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. Throw the damned thing away anc consider yourself lucky that it didnt cause a fire. Those pressurized alchohol stoves are just about the most dangerous thing you can have on a boat except possibly a white gas powered stove. |
Kenyon stove
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message ...
Alvin North wrote: I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. Throw the damned thing away anc consider yourself lucky that it didnt cause a fire. Those pressurized alchohol stoves are just about the most dangerous thing you can have on a boat except possibly a white gas powered stove. |
Kenyon stove
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message ...
Alvin North wrote: I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. Better yet, do what I did to the exact same model. Take out the burners and the tank and everything else except the burner wells. Insert large cans of sterno into them an raise the burner pot holdersm with longer screws. It works as well as the alchohol and is MUCH safer |
Kenyon stove
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message ...
Alvin North wrote: I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. Better yet, do what I did to the exact same model. Take out the burners and the tank and everything else except the burner wells. Insert large cans of sterno into them an raise the burner pot holdersm with longer screws. It works as well as the alchohol and is MUCH safer |
Kenyon stove
Larry W4CSC wrote:
By the way, if you keep it, denatured alcohol is MUCH cheaper from the paint department at Home Depot or other warehouse hardware store in the gallon can.......than say We$t Marine..... Funny thing, possibly because I'm a regular customer: Our marina store gave us a gallon of alcohol for 2/3rds of the cost of the hardware store price, even though it was marked twice as expensive. I'd signed for the higher price and expected to pay the full bill for the convenience, but the bill was adjusted before it hit our account. Sometimes, spending a few bucks at the local shop can save quite a bit more than that later. I don't think I've paid "list" price on anything at the marina for a couple of years. This was the first time I could point to our price being below the best price I could find anywhere else, but price reductions off of the signed price have been pretty usual. The more lazy I get, the more I find that local shops match and often beat the national chain's prices if they know you as a customer and know you know the chains' prices. A couple of times, I confronted the local shops with the nationals' prices, but stopped when I discovered I could get better prices when I didn't mention actual numbers. After only a few transactions, I found the locals gave me better prices on average than the nationals would give. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Kenyon stove
Larry W4CSC wrote:
By the way, if you keep it, denatured alcohol is MUCH cheaper from the paint department at Home Depot or other warehouse hardware store in the gallon can.......than say We$t Marine..... Funny thing, possibly because I'm a regular customer: Our marina store gave us a gallon of alcohol for 2/3rds of the cost of the hardware store price, even though it was marked twice as expensive. I'd signed for the higher price and expected to pay the full bill for the convenience, but the bill was adjusted before it hit our account. Sometimes, spending a few bucks at the local shop can save quite a bit more than that later. I don't think I've paid "list" price on anything at the marina for a couple of years. This was the first time I could point to our price being below the best price I could find anywhere else, but price reductions off of the signed price have been pretty usual. The more lazy I get, the more I find that local shops match and often beat the national chain's prices if they know you as a customer and know you know the chains' prices. A couple of times, I confronted the local shops with the nationals' prices, but stopped when I discovered I could get better prices when I didn't mention actual numbers. After only a few transactions, I found the locals gave me better prices on average than the nationals would give. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Kenyon stove
Armond Perretta wrote:
Alvin North wrote: I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. We've used a Princess alcohol stove for 11 years. My wife is afraid to start it without my watching, but it not only has worked flawlessly for 11 seasons, but boils a quart of water about as quickly as our friends' propane stoves. Eventually, we'll switch over to propane, but all the extra 'stuff' we need for that switch has been prohibitive while the Princess has worked properly. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Kenyon stove
Armond Perretta wrote:
Alvin North wrote: I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North Depends. The stove _as_shipped_ usually required denatured alcohol. However Kenyon (and others) offered a kerosene burner conversion kit that looked almost identical to the alcohol burners. It even used the same tank, although the setup was really minimal at best. In all probability you have alcohol. If so, observe the warnings of the other posters. BTW I have a CD 28 that shipped with the same stove. Best thing I did was to dump it at the first opportunity. We've used a Princess alcohol stove for 11 years. My wife is afraid to start it without my watching, but it not only has worked flawlessly for 11 seasons, but boils a quart of water about as quickly as our friends' propane stoves. Eventually, we'll switch over to propane, but all the extra 'stuff' we need for that switch has been prohibitive while the Princess has worked properly. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Kenyon stove
These Kenyon stoves work wonderfully well IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.
The secret is in the lighting them. Pump up the tank a little [don't overpressure them], open the round valve wheel and let some alcohol flow into the burner cup and down into the bottom of the stove pan where there's another "cup" thing. Doesn't take much. Shut the valve COMPLETELY OFF. Light the alcohol in both the bottom and the burner cup. LET IT BURN COMPLETELY, until there's no more flame. Then crack the valve wheel open a bit and light the burner. It will burn nicely, giving you a flame like a Coleman stove, and after a few seconds you can turn it up to the desired "burn". The mistake people make with these stoves is in not letting the "prime" burn completely before lighting the stove. As soon as they open the valve wheel it flares up, scares the hell outta everyone, and they flee out the companionway. If you can remove the stove, take it outside and try it once if you're nervous about it. T. Sanders S/V Cimba "Alvin North" wrote in message link.net... I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North |
Kenyon stove
These Kenyon stoves work wonderfully well IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.
The secret is in the lighting them. Pump up the tank a little [don't overpressure them], open the round valve wheel and let some alcohol flow into the burner cup and down into the bottom of the stove pan where there's another "cup" thing. Doesn't take much. Shut the valve COMPLETELY OFF. Light the alcohol in both the bottom and the burner cup. LET IT BURN COMPLETELY, until there's no more flame. Then crack the valve wheel open a bit and light the burner. It will burn nicely, giving you a flame like a Coleman stove, and after a few seconds you can turn it up to the desired "burn". The mistake people make with these stoves is in not letting the "prime" burn completely before lighting the stove. As soon as they open the valve wheel it flares up, scares the hell outta everyone, and they flee out the companionway. If you can remove the stove, take it outside and try it once if you're nervous about it. T. Sanders S/V Cimba "Alvin North" wrote in message link.net... I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? Thanks, A North |
Kenyon stove
Trent D. Sanders wrote:
These Kenyon stoves work wonderfully well IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM. The secret is in the lighting them. Pump up the tank a little [don't overpressure them], open the round valve wheel and let some alcohol flow into the burner cup and down into the bottom of the stove pan where there's another "cup" thing. Doesn't take much. Shut the valve COMPLETELY OFF. Light the alcohol in both the bottom and the burner cup. LET IT BURN COMPLETELY, until there's no more flame. Then crack the valve wheel open a bit and light the burner. It will burn nicely, giving you a flame like a Coleman stove, and after a few seconds you can turn it up to the desired "burn". The mistake people make with these stoves is in not letting the "prime" burn completely before lighting the stove. As soon as they open the valve wheel it flares up, scares the hell outta everyone, and they flee out the companionway. If you can remove the stove, take it outside and try it once if you're nervous about it. T. Sanders S/V Cimba We use a slightly different method: When we hear the obvious hiss or gurgle of the alcohol in the tube boiling, we open the valve all the way over to the "clean" setting, which is about the minimum heat setting. When the primer has burnt off, we can demand full heat immediately. We don't have to stand over the stove and immediately relight the stove. When we did it Trent's way, we too often didn't relight quite quickly enough and had to start again from scratch. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Kenyon stove
Trent D. Sanders wrote:
These Kenyon stoves work wonderfully well IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THEM. The secret is in the lighting them. Pump up the tank a little [don't overpressure them], open the round valve wheel and let some alcohol flow into the burner cup and down into the bottom of the stove pan where there's another "cup" thing. Doesn't take much. Shut the valve COMPLETELY OFF. Light the alcohol in both the bottom and the burner cup. LET IT BURN COMPLETELY, until there's no more flame. Then crack the valve wheel open a bit and light the burner. It will burn nicely, giving you a flame like a Coleman stove, and after a few seconds you can turn it up to the desired "burn". The mistake people make with these stoves is in not letting the "prime" burn completely before lighting the stove. As soon as they open the valve wheel it flares up, scares the hell outta everyone, and they flee out the companionway. If you can remove the stove, take it outside and try it once if you're nervous about it. T. Sanders S/V Cimba We use a slightly different method: When we hear the obvious hiss or gurgle of the alcohol in the tube boiling, we open the valve all the way over to the "clean" setting, which is about the minimum heat setting. When the primer has burnt off, we can demand full heat immediately. We don't have to stand over the stove and immediately relight the stove. When we did it Trent's way, we too often didn't relight quite quickly enough and had to start again from scratch. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Kenyon stove
I am converting my Homestrand from alcohol to propane via the
installation of 10,000 BTU "side burners" from barbeques. Got replacement valves and a regulator from a hardware store, proper rated hoses from a commerical appliance place, and the proper-sized copper hose awaits installation. I will run a connector out via the coaming and hang the 5 lb. tank off the stern rail on a SS hoop with a Y-connector to the nearby Force10. Oh, yeah, I also have an inline solenoid, a remote on/off switch and a gas/propane sniffer for the bilge. Cheaper than a retrofit and I'd have to plumb the thing regardless. R. On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:57:34 -0800, "Steve" wrote: I agree with Baybyter. I had a similar model Kenyon and ended up with a fire due to spilled primer alchohol. I then converted it to kerosene (with burners provided by Kenyon, about $75). That was a waste of money, still needed to use a primer fuel and the stove smoked a lot. The reason I mention the kerosene conversion is the possibility that yours my have been converted. Just smell the tank and you should be able to tell. I ended up giving mine away. It was the Kenyon alchohol and elect. model with the burner in the middle of the electric element. Be careful or upgrade to a safer stove. |
Kenyon stove
I am converting my Homestrand from alcohol to propane via the
installation of 10,000 BTU "side burners" from barbeques. Got replacement valves and a regulator from a hardware store, proper rated hoses from a commerical appliance place, and the proper-sized copper hose awaits installation. I will run a connector out via the coaming and hang the 5 lb. tank off the stern rail on a SS hoop with a Y-connector to the nearby Force10. Oh, yeah, I also have an inline solenoid, a remote on/off switch and a gas/propane sniffer for the bilge. Cheaper than a retrofit and I'd have to plumb the thing regardless. R. On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:57:34 -0800, "Steve" wrote: I agree with Baybyter. I had a similar model Kenyon and ended up with a fire due to spilled primer alchohol. I then converted it to kerosene (with burners provided by Kenyon, about $75). That was a waste of money, still needed to use a primer fuel and the stove smoked a lot. The reason I mention the kerosene conversion is the possibility that yours my have been converted. Just smell the tank and you should be able to tell. I ended up giving mine away. It was the Kenyon alchohol and elect. model with the burner in the middle of the electric element. Be careful or upgrade to a safer stove. |
Kenyon stove
Kenyon is still in business (www.kenyonmarine.com) and they are quite
happy to dispense advice and dig up old manuals and hard to find parts. At least that was my experience. Matt "Alvin North" wrote in message ink.net... I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? |
Kenyon stove
Kenyon is still in business (www.kenyonmarine.com) and they are quite
happy to dispense advice and dig up old manuals and hard to find parts. At least that was my experience. Matt "Alvin North" wrote in message ink.net... I have acquired an old boat (Cape Dory 28) about 25 years old. It has a Kenyon stove Homestrand (SN 152460). A quart tank with pump up, large dial for clean and close. What type fuel, alcohol or kerosene? |
Kenyon stove
"Matt/Meribeth Pedersen" wrote...
Kenyon is still in business (www.kenyonmarine.com) and they are quite happy to dispense advice and dig up old manuals and hard to find parts. At least that was my experience. I found a stove cheap at a flea mkt and thought I would rebuild it myself, after I finished breaking it apart ;-0 I decided to I send my boats stove into Kenyon for service, service was prompt & reasonable, as seen on my web page: http://www.angelfire.com/fl/cruising...toveinstr.html |
Kenyon stove
"Matt/Meribeth Pedersen" wrote...
Kenyon is still in business (www.kenyonmarine.com) and they are quite happy to dispense advice and dig up old manuals and hard to find parts. At least that was my experience. I found a stove cheap at a flea mkt and thought I would rebuild it myself, after I finished breaking it apart ;-0 I decided to I send my boats stove into Kenyon for service, service was prompt & reasonable, as seen on my web page: http://www.angelfire.com/fl/cruising...toveinstr.html |
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