Superbright LED's
 

Has anyone used any of these as replacements for the incandescent
bayonet mount cabin lights?
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...?product=OTHER

They supposedly are intended for marine and RV use, and are clearly
cheaper than other LED products I have seen. For all of the talk on
solar panels, generators, etc., I'd be happy finding a way to use less
power (as opposed to generating more).

Steve Hayes

Superbright LED's
 

On 2007-04-02 21:53:11 -0400, "steve_hayes_maine" said:

Has anyone used any of these as replacements for the incandescent
bayonet mount cabin lights?
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...?product=OTHER

They supposedly are intended for marine and RV use, and are clearly
cheaper than other LED products I have seen. For all of the talk on
solar panels, generators, etc., I'd be happy finding a way to use less
power (as opposed to generating more).

Steve Hayes

An awful example of a website, but because a friend recommended them, I
tried one of theirs similar to the 1142-W19 White LED a bit more than
half-way down the page. Works quite well as a reading light on the
bulkhead, but isn't as bright as the incadescent it replaced. Thought
about the 1142-PCB-W36, but $15 was a bit pricey for a sight-unseen
purchase.

Hmmm. As I look around, the light bars (at the bottom of the page)
sound interesting, but I have no idea how to figure out how bright they
are so I can size them properly for my applications.

A month or so ago, Waste Marine was advertising some LED replacement
fixtures that are nearly coming down into what I consider a reasonable
price range. I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an
LED anchor light.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Superbright LED's
 

I'm going to order some of these. They look like just the thing for the
fixtures in my boat. I have two bulb lights with switches for high and low.
I can't turn all lights to high even with a 10 amp fuse. I'll put just one
of these in each fixture on the low setting and keep a regular bulb in the
second socket. When I want brighter or more balanced light in a spot, I'll
switch to both. Low draw the rest of the time.

--
Roger Long

Superbright LED's
 

I have used Superbrights in a couple of applications. Their Lights
are not really all that bright and the color is awful. However, they
sell an "anchor" light which I regularly use as a cockpit light
especially when grilling after dark. It is quite bright.

I have also used "sensibulb", LED replacement lights from Sailors'
Solutions. They are quite bright and the color is nearly identical to
incandescent. It is possible to read by the light of the Sensibulb.
They are a bit pricey at $39 per.

Peter
s/v Now or Never!

Superbright LED's
 

I made up some 24v units using 3 strings of 8 superbright LEDs. The
output was quite reasonable and uniform but the colour was too blue -
so to the eye not as bright as a more yellow incandescent lamp. Not
wery good to read by.

Superbright LED's
 

steve_hayes_maine wrote:
Has anyone used any of these as replacements for the incandescent
bayonet mount cabin lights?
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...?product=OTHER

They supposedly are intended for marine and RV use, and are clearly
cheaper than other LED products I have seen. For all of the talk on
solar panels, generators, etc., I'd be happy finding a way to use less
power (as opposed to generating more).

Steve Hayes

Why not buy from a ruiser?

http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Gordon

Superbright LED's
 

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED anchor
light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be an
all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with LED's is
they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens. Very little
side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could make a sphere
with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might meet the legal
requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an inverter
aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough to go up the
backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be fastened to the
backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of those little 4-watt
automatic night lights into extension cord but take the incandescent
light out and install a 4 watt compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania
Decor 15. Make sure the little night light fixture is held by the cord
in an upside down position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts worth
of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard

Superbright LED's
 

On Apr 3, 3:04 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Jere Lull" wrote in message

news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some

I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED anchor
light.

You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be an
all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with LED's is
they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens. Very little
side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could make a sphere
with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might meet the legal
requirements.

Putz...you living in the 1960's? Here is a USCG approved Anchor light
with 1 LED.

Just Google OGM LX:

The OGM anchor light requires only one Luxeon LED! An optional
photocell automatically turns on at dusk, off at daylight, allowing
you to leave your boat at anchor for days. The low power draw can be
replenished during the day with a small solar panel to charge your
boat's battery bank.

OGM LX series LED Anchor Light Specifications

Voltage Range: 8V to 36V D.C.
Power Consumption: 3 Watts (0.25 Amp at 12V)
Waterproofness: 6+ feet sal****er, 1+ hours
Auto on/off: optional
Material: Delrin, cast acrylic
LED: one Luxeon white - true 50,000+ Hours, 62 Lumens
Hookup: 4 feet marine-grade 2-conductor, 20-gauge wire
Dimensions: 2.5 inches high, 2.7 inches diameter

OGM LXA Series LED Anchor Light $139.00
OGM LXA-P Series LED Anchor Light
(with photocell on/off) $149.00



But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an inverter
aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough to go up the
backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be fastened to the
backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of those little 4-watt
automatic night lights into extension cord but take the incandescent
light out and install a 4 watt compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania
Decor 15. Make sure the little night light fixture is held by the cord
in an upside down position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts worth
of lumens.


Ugggh..

Joe


Wilbur Hubbard

Superbright LED's
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 3, 3:04 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Jere Lull" wrote in message

news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some

I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor
light.

You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an
all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with LED's
is
they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens. Very
little
side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could make a
sphere
with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might meet the legal
requirements.

Putz...you living in the 1960's? Here is a USCG approved Anchor light
with 1 LED.

Just Google OGM LX:

The OGM anchor light requires only one Luxeon LED! An optional
photocell automatically turns on at dusk, off at daylight, allowing
you to leave your boat at anchor for days. The low power draw can be
replenished during the day with a small solar panel to charge your
boat's battery bank.

OGM LX series LED Anchor Light Specifications

Voltage Range: 8V to 36V D.C.
Power Consumption: 3 Watts (0.25 Amp at 12V)
Waterproofness: 6+ feet sal****er, 1+ hours
Auto on/off: optional
Material: Delrin, cast acrylic
LED: one Luxeon white - true 50,000+ Hours, 62 Lumens
Hookup: 4 feet marine-grade 2-conductor, 20-gauge wire
Dimensions: 2.5 inches high, 2.7 inches diameter

OGM LXA Series LED Anchor Light $139.00
OGM LXA-P Series LED Anchor Light
(with photocell on/off) $149.00



But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter
aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough to go up
the
backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be fastened to the
backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of those little
4-watt
automatic night lights into extension cord but take the incandescent
light out and install a 4 watt compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania
Decor 15. Make sure the little night light fixture is held by the
cord
in an upside down position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts
worth
of lumens.


Ugggh..

Joe


Sorry, Joe but there's no way they can make an LED shine 360 degrees.
Look at a LED sometime and you'll know what I mean. The light comes from
deep inside the diode and is focused with a lens. From the side you only
see a bit of a glow.


Wilbur Hubbard

Superbright LED's
 

Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing light
fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes out
of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as night
vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute the
blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I can take
my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly amber,
they might be.

--
Roger Long

Superbright LED's
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED anchor
light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be an
all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with LED's is
they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens. Very little
side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could make a sphere
with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might meet the legal
requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an inverter
aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough to go up the
backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be fastened to the
backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of those little 4-watt
automatic night lights into extension cord but take the incandescent
light out and install a 4 watt compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania
Decor 15. Make sure the little night light fixture is held by the cord
in an upside down position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts worth
of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved for
two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a 120 degree
sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only draws .5 amps. Cost
$264 at the boat show last year.

Superbright LED's
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing light
fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes out
of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute the
blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I can
take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.

--
Roger Long

I like the idea, but I can't find any 12 volt, medium base. Just those silly
candelabra bases or the bayonette type.

Superbright LED's
 

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with
LED's is they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens.
Very little side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could
make a sphere with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might
meet the legal requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough
to go up the backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be
fastened to the backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of
those little 4-watt automatic night lights into extension cord but
take the incandescent light out and install a 4 watt compact
fluorescent such as a Sylvania Decor 15. Make sure the little night
light fixture is held by the cord in an upside down position. For 4
watts of power you get 15 watts worth of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved
for two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a 120
degree sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only draws .5
amps. Cost $264 at the boat show last year.

One must wonder how bright this light is on the borders? Probably fades
out completely.

Wilbur Hubbard

Superbright LED's
 

On Apr 3, 4:50 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in message

...





Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing light
fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes out
of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute the
blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I can
take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.

--
Roger Long

I like the idea, but I can't find any 12 volt, medium base. Just those silly
candelabra bases or the bayonette type.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/ledleft.htm

joe

Superbright LED's
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with
LED's is they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded lens.
Very little side illumination comes out of them. I suppose you could
make a sphere with about forty of fifty bright LED's and it might
meet the legal requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long enough
to go up the backstay to several feet above the boom. It can be
fastened to the backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug one of
those little 4-watt automatic night lights into extension cord but
take the incandescent light out and install a 4 watt compact
fluorescent such as a Sylvania Decor 15. Make sure the little night
light fixture is held by the cord in an upside down position. For 4
watts of power you get 15 watts worth of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved
for two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a 120
degree sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only draws .5
amps. Cost $264 at the boat show last year.

One must wonder how bright this light is on the borders? Probably fades
out completely.

Wilbur Hubbard
I've checked all around from about a mile away and there is no
discernible decrease in brightness at any angle. You gotta keep up with
new technology Wilber.

Superbright LED's
 

"krj" wrote in message
.. .
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"krj" wrote in message
. ..
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007040300294750073-jerelull@maccom...
snip some
I can wait for a while longer, though am lusting after an LED
anchor light.


You will be waiting for a very long time. An anchor light has to be
an all around white light visible for two miles. The problem with
LED's is they are like little spot lights focused by a rounded
lens. Very little side illumination comes out of them. I suppose
you could make a sphere with about forty of fifty bright LED's and
it might meet the legal requirements.

But, I, Wilbur Hubbard, have a better solution. If you have an
inverter aboard simply buy and plug in an extension cord long
enough to go up the backstay to several feet above the boom. It can
be fastened to the backstay with black "tiewrap" wire ties. Plug
one of those little 4-watt automatic night lights into extension
cord but take the incandescent light out and install a 4 watt
compact fluorescent such as a Sylvania Decor 15. Make sure the
little night light fixture is held by the cord in an upside down
position. For 4 watts of power you get 15 watts worth of lumens.

Wilbur Hubbard
OGM has an LED tri color + anchor light that is Coast Guard approved
for two miles. Uses three LED for the anchor light. Each one is a
120 degree sector. Also has a photo cell to turn it on/off Only
draws .5 amps. Cost $264 at the boat show last year.

One must wonder how bright this light is on the borders? Probably
fades out completely.

Wilbur Hubbard
I've checked all around from about a mile away and there is no
discernible decrease in brightness at any angle. You gotta keep up
with new technology Wilber.

I guess so. I think what turns me off about the LED lights is their
bordering-on-extortion prices. 250 bucks for an LED light is rape and
pillage. I'd rather use an incandescent bulb than pay extortion prices.

Wilbur Hubbard

Superbright LED's
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 3, 4:50 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:

I like the idea, but I can't find any 12 volt, medium base. Just those
silly
candelabra bases or the bayonette type.- Hide quoted text -

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http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/ledleft.htm

joe


Thanks, Joe. found them at this link: https://www.superbrightleds.com/
Only one available, in either narrow or wide beam. I ordered three of the
wide beams, will let the group know how they work for me.

Superbright LED's
 

On Apr 3, 7:13 pm, Dave wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:58:20 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I guess so. I think what turns me off about the LED lights is their
bordering-on-extortion prices. 250 bucks for an LED light is rape and
pillage. I'd rather use an incandescent bulb than pay extortion prices.

Jeez, Neal, with your Swan 48 that's gotta be chump change.

Jeeze Dave..it's a Swan 68... not 48. But you are right, he's
inconsistant and his cover is falling apart again.
Sorta like the way Ellen lost all credibility.

Joe

Superbright LED's
 

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:58:20 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I guess so. I think what turns me off about the LED lights is their
bordering-on-extortion prices. 250 bucks for an LED light is rape and
pillage. I'd rather use an incandescent bulb than pay extortion prices.

Jeez, Neal, with your Swan 48 that's gotta be chump change.
I think he said it was a Swan 68

Superbright LED's
 

Roger Long wrote:
Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html


Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing
light fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes
out of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute
the blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I
can take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.


I've heard that the reason white LEDs seem dimmer is that the light is a
very narrow wavelength - just white with none of the other colors mixed
in.

Adding an amber or green - or both? LEDs to the mix might make a more
comfortable "white".

YMMV

Richard

Superbright LED's
 

On Apr 3, 9:15 pm, cavelamb himself wrote:
Roger Long wrote:
Gordon wrote:

Why not buy from a ruiser?
http://www.bebi-electronics.com/index.html

Great web site! Link to very interesting technical info on LED's.

I wish I could buy from them but theirs are mounted in a thick cannister
intended to be lights on their own. What I like about the ones Steve
originally posted about is that they will fit right into my existing
light fixtures which are fairly large for just two bulbs.

The blue light worries me a bit because I really don't like what comes
out of LED flashlights.

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

I don't think I would try this if I only had one bulb in my fixtures but
being able to bring a standard bulb on line to boost output and dilute
the blueness makes it seem reasonable. I'm still going to wait until I
can take my LED flashlight down in the cabin and see how it feels.

I wonder if the amber LED's are more pleasant light? If just faintly
amber, they might be.

I've heard that the reason white LEDs seem dimmer is that the light is a
very narrow wavelength - just white with none of the other colors mixed
in.

Adding an amber or green - or both? LEDs to the mix might make a more
comfortable "white".

YMMV

Richard- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just get a Color Kinetics controller and a RGB fixture and you can
choose one of 20 million different colors.
http://www.colorkinetics.com

Joe

Superbright LED's
 

While we're on this subject, anybody have any experience with these:
http://www.doctorled.com/p2.htm

Superbright LED's
 

Does anyone know if blue light is the opposite of red light as far as
night vision is concerned?

FWIW I have a headlamp that is switchable between blue-white and red
LED's. The red are much easier to use at night as they increase
contrast in the view. The blue-white is kind of a wash.