The "Stuff" ,, how much does it weigh?
 

Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with fenders, lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries weighs?

The "Stuff" ,, how much does it weigh?
 

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:04:56 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with fenders, lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries weighs?

Malcolm Tennant is a local (Auckland) designer of high performance
catamarans. A few years ago he tld me of one of his very fast 40' cats
which the owner used to race only semi-seriously - the rest of the
time he cruised. So he had cruising gear on board even though he was
trying to keep the weight down.

Then came the entry into one of the more important coastal races which
really mattered. The owner thought he had better take out all this
cruising stuff which wasn't really essential. Two tons later he was
still taking out stuff ... :-(



Eric Stevens

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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:04:56 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries weighs?

When I really got serious about racing my old Cal-34 we'd go through
this excercise of taking all the cruising gear off of the boat. It
was usually about 2 full size station wagon loads, and probably
weighed 400 to 500 pounds. That is enough to make a very noticable
difference in light wind performance.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:04:56 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries
weighs?

When I really got serious about racing my old Cal-34 we'd go through
this excercise of taking all the cruising gear off of the boat. It
was usually about 2 full size station wagon loads, and probably
weighed 400 to 500 pounds. That is enough to make a very noticable
difference in light wind performance.



Yeah, I just removed at least 300 lbs of crap, and I've owned the boat less
than a year.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Gogarty" wrote in message
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In article cghNh.1150$_S.900@trndny08, says...


Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with fenders,
lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries
weighs?


Two inches on the waterline on our 37 footer. At least a ton.



Damn... forgot to look at that. I wonder what the difference was... 30
footer.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On Mar 24, 5:04 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with fenders, lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries weighs?

Around 3000 pounds including food stock on a 42fter.

Joe

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On Mar 24, 5:04 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with fenders,
lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to
thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea
what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries
weighs?

Around 3000 pounds including food stock on a 42fter.

Joe

You are underestimating probably by a factor of at least two. Let's be
realistic about it Your anchors, chain and windlass alone probably
weight around half a ton. The fuel and water and holding tank close to
500 pounds. That's half your 3000 pounds already.

Put it this way. A Coronado 27 has an empty weight of about 5700 pounds.
It says on Capt. Neal's website somewhere, if I recall correctly, that
the last time the Good Captain has his blue water yacht in a travel lift
for a haulout it tipped the scales at 8,800 pounds. And it's only a
27-footer. Yours, being a 42-footer, it's more likely you're hauling
around probably at least three or four extra tons of stuff.

Wilbur Hubbard

The "Stuff" ,, how much does it weigh?
 

There is a way to weigh the stuff on your boat using the boat.

Measure the distance from the boot top or deck to the waterline on each side
amidships. Take all the stuff off and measure again.

Then calculate the pounds that will sink the boat 1 inch thus:

Waterline length x beam (on waterline) x .7 x 5.33 pounds to change draft
one inch.

If your boat has fine ends reduce the .7 a bit or increase it for a full
ended boat.

You can also use this method to calculate how much to raise the boot top for
a certain load or increase in weight.

--
Roger Long

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"Gogarty" wrote in message
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In article ,

says...


You can also use this method to calculate how much to raise the boot
top for
a certain load or increase in weight.

--
Our boot top is way higher than the molded-in design boot top. Another
factor
is water in the boat, bilge water and the adsorbed water in the hull.
There
can be a big difference between a boat after six months on the hard
and the
same boat in the slip at season's end.

Those crummy GRP boats absorb water. Then they end up getting blisters.
Joe's got the right idea. His boat is made from steel. Steel does not
absorb water.

I think they need to start making boats out of carbon fiber and exotic
resins that repel water. It would be stronger than steel and lighter
than aluminum. But, I guess it's a wee bit too expensive at this stage
of the game.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Mar 24, 5:04 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with fenders,
lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to
thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea
what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries
weighs?

Around 3000 pounds including food stock on a 42fter.

Joe

You are underestimating probably by a factor of at least two. Let's be
realistic about it Your anchors, chain and windlass alone probably
weight around half a ton. The fuel and water and holding tank close to
500 pounds. That's half your 3000 pounds already.

Put it this way. A Coronado 27 has an empty weight of about 5700 pounds.
It says on Capt. Neal's website somewhere, if I recall correctly, that
the last time the Good Captain has his blue water yacht in a travel lift
for a haulout it tipped the scales at 8,800 pounds. And it's only a
27-footer. Yours, being a 42-footer, it's more likely you're hauling
around probably at least three or four extra tons of stuff.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

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Well if you include water and fuel then another 7012.5 lbs.

Joe

The "Stuff" ,, how much does it weigh?
 

On Mar 25, 2:55 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
There is a way to weigh the stuff on your boat using the boat.

Measure the distance from the boot top or deck to the waterline on each side
amidships. Take all the stuff off and measure again.

Then calculate the pounds that will sink the boat 1 inch thus:

Waterline length x beam (on waterline) x .7 x 5.33 pounds to change draft
one inch.

If your boat has fine ends reduce the .7 a bit or increase it for a full
ended boat.

You can also use this method to calculate how much to raise the boot top for
a certain load or increase in weight.

--
Roger Long

Hello Roger;

I'm impressed with your designs, nice web-site.

If it's not to much of a problem, could you tell me how much weight
would it take to increase draft 14" on a 12'X20' section of hull,
assuming it's a rectangle hull section.

Thanks
Joe

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On Mar 24, 5:04 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as
much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with
fenders,
lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to
thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea
what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat
carries
weighs?

Around 3000 pounds including food stock on a 42fter.

Joe

You are underestimating probably by a factor of at least two. Let's
be
realistic about it Your anchors, chain and windlass alone probably
weight around half a ton. The fuel and water and holding tank close
to
500 pounds. That's half your 3000 pounds already.

Put it this way. A Coronado 27 has an empty weight of about 5700
pounds.
It says on Capt. Neal's website somewhere, if I recall correctly,
that
the last time the Good Captain has his blue water yacht in a travel
lift
for a haulout it tipped the scales at 8,800 pounds. And it's only a
27-footer. Yours, being a 42-footer, it's more likely you're hauling
around probably at least three or four extra tons of stuff.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

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Well if you include water and fuel then another 7012.5 lbs.

Joe

EGADS! What are you sailing there? NOSV Redcloud?

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Mar 24, 5:04 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Got the cover off today. And after this, I decided to bring as
much
equipment home as possible. This way, I am not dealing with
fenders,
lines,
etc when doing my spring projects.

Once I got all this "stuff" in the back of the truck, I got to
thinking ..

How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea
what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat
carries
weighs?

Around 3000 pounds including food stock on a 42fter.

Joe

You are underestimating probably by a factor of at least two. Let's
be
realistic about it Your anchors, chain and windlass alone probably
weight around half a ton. The fuel and water and holding tank close
to
500 pounds. That's half your 3000 pounds already.

Put it this way. A Coronado 27 has an empty weight of about 5700
pounds.
It says on Capt. Neal's website somewhere, if I recall correctly,
that
the last time the Good Captain has his blue water yacht in a travel
lift
for a haulout it tipped the scales at 8,800 pounds. And it's only a
27-footer. Yours, being a 42-footer, it's more likely you're hauling
around probably at least three or four extra tons of stuff.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well if you include water and fuel then another 7012.5 lbs.

Joe

EGADS! What are you sailing there? NOSV Redcloud?

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

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Opps my mistake, it's only 4000 more pounds. 500 gallons (350 fuel 150
water)..@ approx 8 lbs per gallon.

Joe

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wrote
If it's not to much of a problem, could you tell me how much weight
would it take to increase draft 14" on a 12'X20' section of hull,
assuming it's a rectangle hull section.

Just leave out the .7 which is a factor for the taper of the waterline. 14 x
12 x 20 x 5.33 = (where did I put my calculator?)

Salt water, right?

Thanks
Joe

The "Stuff" ,, how much does it weigh?
 

On Mar 25, 5:42 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
wrote If it's not to much of a problem, could you tell me how much weight
would it take to increase draft 14" on a 12'X20' section of hull,
assuming it's a rectangle hull section.

Just leave out the .7 which is a factor for the taper of the waterline. 14 x
12 x 20 x 5.33 = (where did I put my calculator?)

Salt water, right?



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Yes Sir, Salt water.
Or even better if you have the time.

I'm just curious how much cargo could be carried in a 12' X 20'
addition to my hull.

From this: http://sports.webshots.com/photo/124...63212926VskyTX

To this : http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...63212926pEcMjp

Adding two of these: http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...63212926AEPHFI

Making her hull 62ft overall.

Thanks

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On Mar 25, 5:42 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
wrote If it's not to much of a problem,
could you tell me how much weight
would it take to increase draft 14" on a 12'X20' section of hull,
assuming it's a rectangle hull section.

Just leave out the .7 which is a factor for the taper of the
waterline. 14 x
12 x 20 x 5.33 = (where did I put my calculator?)

Salt water, right?



Thanks
Joe- Hide quoted text -

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Yes Sir, Salt water.
Or even better if you have the time.

I'm just curious how much cargo could be carried in a 12' X 20'
addition to my hull.

From this: http://sports.webshots.com/photo/124...63212926VskyTX

To this :
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...63212926pEcMjp

Adding two of these:
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...63212926AEPHFI

Making her hull 62ft overall.

Thanks


My advice. Pay less attention to modifying your boat and pay more
attention to that babe standing there in the bikini. WOW! She's got some
bod on her.

Wilbur Hubbard

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wrote

Or even better if you have the time.

I'm just curious how much cargo could be carried in a 12' X 20'
addition to my hull.

Sorry, there is way more involved here than I can deal with through a
newsgroup. You need to hire a naval architect.

--
Roger Long

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On Mar 25, 7:58 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
wrote

Or even better if you have the time.

I'm just curious how much cargo could be carried in a 12' X 20'
addition to my hull.

Sorry, there is way more involved here than I can deal with through a
newsgroup. You need to hire a naval architect.

--
Roger Long

Yeah, If I did it, I'd do just that.

Using the simple formula you provided with the hull drawing 40"
leaving the freeboard she has (Keel not included) it comes to 51,168
lbs.

Figure the steel would weigh in around 10,000 pounds, toss in 2,000
lbs ballast, I would be able to carry around 40,000 pounds of cargo.
And again thats not counting the bouyancy provided by the full keel,
which should be able to float a big board and box.

Thats ball park enough for me. Not like I'm breaking out the plasma
cutter or anything.

Thanks

Joe

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Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:04:56 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:


How much does the sailing equipment, the "Stuff" weigh? Any idea what the
add on weight of all the extra equipment a cruising sailboat carries weighs?


When I really got serious about racing my old Cal-34 we'd go through
this excercise of taking all the cruising gear off of the boat. It
was usually about 2 full size station wagon loads, and probably
weighed 400 to 500 pounds. That is enough to make a very noticable
difference in light wind performance.

That's why we don't race in light wind ;-)

Don W.

The "Stuff" ,, how much does it weigh?
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

Those crummy GRP boats absorb water. Then they end up getting blisters.
Joe's got the right idea. His boat is made from steel. Steel does not
absorb water.

I can tell you from experience that steel boats
get blisters too ;-)

Wilbur Hubbard