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Larry,
This is by far the best advice anyone could hear. Congratulations on a
great posting and for taking the time to think about and write these
words to someone you will probably never meet.


You're quite welcome. Some of them bark quite loudly, especially yelling
at the crew, shouting orders, in a race...but they don't hardly ever
bite. Even then, it's all in good fun because Captain Blythe will take
his crew to dinner and party, especially if the terrified crew (plus the
boat's awful handicap) should result in a win!...(c; (It is fun crewing
on a big, slow, clunky cruiser with a big party going on. Other crews
laugh as they easily pass us and wonder why we're all smirking and
smiling. They, obviously, haven't checked the race webpage to find out
what the old, slow girl's handicap is. Hell, in order to beat us, they
have to arrive two DAYS before we do!...(c;


Somehow, from reading your postings when I get near the web over the
past few years I had somehow imagined you to be possibly in your mid
forties. Hell! You are two years older than me.


I'm 61. Cap'n Geoffrey's 68, going on 29 after a few ales. We get along
fabulously. I was introduced to him by another boater I was helping at
the time, as me and the other guy were casually cruising the docks
looking for someone to offer us free beer. We've been friends ever
since.

Cap'n call me. Says, "There's something on the chart table. Can you
figure out how to hook it up? I got it at the Miami Boat Show." "It" is
some new electronic gadget I can easily hook up....of course, assuming we
can find a suitable space to mount its display/input
device/mic/printer/plotter/drafting-table-sized marking device. We might
have to dismount something that's 2 years old the "new" wore off of, but
we'll make it fit. Cap'n is a fine wood craftsman. He's responsible for
the custom cabinetry/mounting of anything new. I'm responsible for its
electronics/electrical integration and software integration.

I KNOW better than to say, "We already have one of these from XXXXXX.
Why do we need two?" He always looks so disappointed, so we have several
chartplotters (Garmin, Raymarine, Yeoman), compasses (B&G, Raymarine
(both the compass sensor and smart heading sensor), GPS (Garmin,
Raymarine WAAS-GPS), etc. As long as I don't have to pull another cable
through the Nav to Helm wireway that's stuffed, I'm fine with it.

The only thing Navy has we don't is weaponry. SHHHH....keep him away
from boatshow weapon salesmen!

Peter, you don't need a boat. There are PLENTY of boats to play
with/on/out of sitting on docks all over. Unless you just HAVE to have a
family cruiser to take the kids out on, something none of the yachties
want on their boats I know, spending all that cash on boats and upkeep is
unnecessary. If you want to cruise around in some really nice yachts,
you need a pleasant captain who, like my friend, would love to have
someone he can trust to get her ready-for-sea...and pilot her most of the
time...so he can enjoy his guests and family...rather than being strapped
to the wheel all the time. I don't have that kind of money. I like my
position aboard.....

NOTHING beats taking the CAPTAIN'S VISA card to West Marine on a Saturday
morning for a "few parts and replenishment spares".....(c;


cheers and thanks
Peter Hendra


Cheers! Boddington's ok?....my favorite.


Larry
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Peter Hendra wrote in
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Larry,
This is by far the best advice anyone could hear. Congratulations on a
great posting and for taking the time to think about and write these
words to someone you will probably never meet.


You're quite welcome. Some of them bark quite loudly, especially yelling
at the crew, shouting orders, in a race...but they don't hardly ever
bite. Even then, it's all in good fun because Captain Blythe will take
his crew to dinner and party, especially if the terrified crew (plus the
boat's awful handicap) should result in a win!...(c; (It is fun crewing
on a big, slow, clunky cruiser with a big party going on. Other crews
laugh as they easily pass us and wonder why we're all smirking and
smiling. They, obviously, haven't checked the race webpage to find out
what the old, slow girl's handicap is. Hell, in order to beat us, they
have to arrive two DAYS before we do!...(c;


Somehow, from reading your postings when I get near the web over the
past few years I had somehow imagined you to be possibly in your mid
forties. Hell! You are two years older than me.


I'm 61. Cap'n Geoffrey's 68, going on 29 after a few ales. We get along
fabulously. I was introduced to him by another boater I was helping at
the time, as me and the other guy were casually cruising the docks
looking for someone to offer us free beer. We've been friends ever
since.

Cap'n call me. Says, "There's something on the chart table. Can you
figure out how to hook it up? I got it at the Miami Boat Show." "It" is
some new electronic gadget I can easily hook up....of course, assuming we
can find a suitable space to mount its display/input
device/mic/printer/plotter/drafting-table-sized marking device. We might
have to dismount something that's 2 years old the "new" wore off of, but
we'll make it fit. Cap'n is a fine wood craftsman. He's responsible for
the custom cabinetry/mounting of anything new. I'm responsible for its
electronics/electrical integration and software integration.

I KNOW better than to say, "We already have one of these from XXXXXX.
Why do we need two?" He always looks so disappointed, so we have several
chartplotters (Garmin, Raymarine, Yeoman), compasses (B&G, Raymarine
(both the compass sensor and smart heading sensor), GPS (Garmin,
Raymarine WAAS-GPS), etc. As long as I don't have to pull another cable
through the Nav to Helm wireway that's stuffed, I'm fine with it.

The only thing Navy has we don't is weaponry. SHHHH....keep him away
from boatshow weapon salesmen!

Peter, you don't need a boat. There are PLENTY of boats to play
with/on/out of sitting on docks all over. Unless you just HAVE to have a
family cruiser to take the kids out on, something none of the yachties
want on their boats I know, spending all that cash on boats and upkeep is
unnecessary. If you want to cruise around in some really nice yachts,
you need a pleasant captain who, like my friend, would love to have
someone he can trust to get her ready-for-sea...and pilot her most of the
time...so he can enjoy his guests and family...rather than being strapped
to the wheel all the time. I don't have that kind of money. I like my
position aboard.....

NOTHING beats taking the CAPTAIN'S VISA card to West Marine on a Saturday
morning for a "few parts and replenishment spares".....(c;


cheers and thanks
Peter Hendra


Cheers! Boddington's ok?....my favorite.


Larry
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I had a deal somewhat like that for 5 years, although on a more modest
scale.
At some point you just want be be your own captain...especially if you want
to try new cruising grounds and the boat owner is happy with 3 hour cruises
in your harbour.


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I had a deal somewhat like that for 5 years, although on a more modest
scale.
At some point you just want be be your own captain...especially if you
want to try new cruising grounds and the boat owner is happy with 3 hour
cruises in your harbour.


I also had a deal like that on a Cape Dory 36, but the owner got to old for
it, his words, but actually it was all of the maintenance. He sold it and
went smaller to a little Fisher 25 motorsailer. A year later he came up with
cancer and put the boat on the market. I have had my little ship, the
biggest little cruiser, for 11 years now.

Leanne
s/vs. Fundy

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"Don White" wrote in message
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I had a deal somewhat like that for 5 years, although on a more modest
scale.
At some point you just want be be your own captain...especially if you
want to try new cruising grounds and the boat owner is happy with 3 hour
cruises in your harbour.


I also had a deal like that on a Cape Dory 36, but the owner got to old
for it, his words, but actually it was all of the maintenance. He sold it
and went smaller to a little Fisher 25 motorsailer. A year later he came
up with cancer and put the boat on the market. I have had my little ship,
the biggest little cruiser, for 11 years now.

Leanne
s/vs. Fundy


My memory is weak... what do you sail these days?
My mini-cruiser.. http://sailquest.com/market/models/spipe.htm


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My memory is weak... what do you sail these days?
My mini-cruiser.. http://sailquest.com/market/models/spipe.htm


Here is a sister ship in the PNW http://fog-northamerica.org/puffin.html

Leanne



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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:13:36 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
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My memory is weak... what do you sail these days?
My mini-cruiser.. http://sailquest.com/market/models/spipe.htm


Here is a sister ship in the PNW http://fog-northamerica.org/puffin.html

Leanne


Compared to Australian and New Zealand prices (from memory) that is
one cheap little boat. I have met a couple of boats of about that size
that have crossed oceans. Nice yacht.
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cheers
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:13:36 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:
Here is a sister ship in the PNW http://fog-northamerica.org/puffin.html

Leanne


Compared to Australian and New Zealand prices (from memory) that is
one cheap little boat. I have met a couple of boats of about that size
that have crossed oceans. Nice yacht.


Peter,

I love my little English ship as she handles like a much larger boat. I
heard about one or two that did a circumnavigation back in the 70's. Of
course I would like the larger sister, the F-34 and the best sailing of the
Fishers, as that is the largest that will clear the fixed bridge on the way
up the creek to my house.

Leanne

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"Don White" wrote in message
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My memory is weak... what do you sail these days?
My mini-cruiser.. http://sailquest.com/market/models/spipe.htm


Here is a sister ship in the PNW http://fog-northamerica.org/puffin.html

Leanne


Very nice...and practical for our cool damp climate on the North Atlantic.


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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:56:07 +0000, Larry wrote:


Peter, you don't need a boat. There are PLENTY of boats to play
with/on/out of sitting on docks all over. Unless you just HAVE to have a
family cruiser to take the kids out on, something none of the yachties
want on their boats I know, spending all that cash on boats and upkeep is
unnecessary. If you want to cruise around in some really nice yachts,
you need a pleasant captain who, like my friend, would love to have
someone he can trust to get her ready-for-sea...and pilot her most of the
time...so he can enjoy his guests and family...rather than being strapped
to the wheel all the time. I don't have that kind of money. I like my
position aboard.....

NOTHING beats taking the CAPTAIN'S VISA card to West Marine on a Saturday
morning for a "few parts and replenishment spares".....(c;


Larry


Hi Larry,
Agreed if going sailing is all you wish to do. Personally, what I like
most about owning my own boat is the wonderful sense of freedom it
affords me. I can go where I want to, when I want to; dollars and
weather and the the bloody pirates and such scum aside.

After years of working to pay mortgages, raising children etc, I love
the freedom of looking out of my office window on a difficult day
(when I work) and thinking. Well, if I don't want to do this there is
simply nothing to stop me just raising the anchor and going somewhere
else. I am not answerable to anyone apart from wife (for the time
being anyway) friends and the obligation to the current work
contract/sense of professional responsibility.

cheers
Peter

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Personally, what I like
most about owning my own boat is the wonderful sense of freedom it
affords me. I can go where I want to, when I want to; dollars and
weather and the the bloody pirates and such scum aside.


I'm not quite so optimistic about it. Boating on a sailboat over 10'
long is very burdensome. There's always something wrong with them,
something that needs immediate attention...and immediate money. BOAT =
Bring Out Another Thousand (pounds, dollars, rupees, etc.). Those that
can afford them that I know, are all saddled with chasing the dollars to
keep them. Oh, there are a few true hermits who don't seem to need
money. Their boats look it. More power to them.

A boat is a LOT of WORK!...especially YOUR boat, the one with the clogged
injector, stopped up head, leaky (pick anything that can leak here),
broken (pick anything that can break here). I don't think it's a lot of
freedom, at all.

Doing it my way has a great advantage, the freedom to walk away without
worry. Some times I don't go to the docks for weeks, sometimes months.
I don't HAVE to check on boats I don't own. THAT's freedom!

Larry
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