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Interested in acquiring a USN combat diesel submarine as a museum in
your
town? This may be your very last chance, so strike while the iron is
hot!

The Naval Sea Systems Command has advised us that the Open House week
at
the
Philadelphia Inactive Ships Facility On-Site Maintenance location has
been
set as follows with the listing of the probable ships to be made
available:

Philadelphia - 9-13 April 2007 with the following ships available -
ex-USS
TROUT (SS 566).

About a month prior to the open house the Naval Sea Systems Command
will
publish the standard guidelines for the conduct of the open house. As
in
the
past, the dates and the ships to be made available are subject to
change.

To see some material condition photos (courtesy of Mike Wheeler), visit
http://groups.msn.com/USSTROUTSS566/PhotoAlbum

PROCESS: REFER TO
http://www.navsea.navy.mil/ndp/aproc...p?txtTypeID=47

APPLICATION PROCESS
The Program Executive Office, Ships, Navy Inactive Ships Program
Office,
(PMS333), Ship Donation Program, is the Secretary of the Navy's agent
for
donations. The Navy's Ship Donation Program serves the interests of
both
the

Navy and the public. Museum ships represent a tangible reminder of the
Navy's
role in American history and commemorate the sailors who served on
these
vessels, as well as showcasing naval tradition and heritage.

The Ship Donation Program has been in existence since 1948. The
authority
to

donate ships is found at Title 10 U.S.C. 7306. Donees must maintain
museum
ships in a "condition satisfactory to the Secretary" and donations must
be
"at no cost" to the Government. For further information, fax (202)
781-4721,

or email the Navy Donation Program at

In order for the Navy to consider an application from a qualified
organization, the ship must be in "Donation Hold" status. The
organizations
responsible for designating vessels in a Donation Hold status are the
Assistant Secretary of the navy, Ship Programs, and the Deputy Chief of
Naval Operations, Warfare Integration (N8F). The Navy may assign ships
to
donation hold status, usually for a one-year period, which may be
extended
based on periodic reviews and positive progress being achieved on the
by
the

potential donee. Donation hold is an administrative action that makes
the
ship ineligible for disposal during the time it is on donation hold.
Annually, the Inactive Ships Program Office will recommend vessels to
be
placed on or removed from the category of "Donation Hold".

Once the Navy designates a vessel as on "Donation Hold", a Federal
Register
Notice will be issued announcing its availability for donation transfer
to
qualified applicants and soliciting ship donation applications.

The following organizations are listed in the ship donation statute as
eligible to receive a former Navy vessel under this particular program:

(1) Any State, Commonwealth, or possession of the United States or any
municipal corporation or political subdivision thereof;
(2) The District of Columbia, or;
(3) Any not-for-profit or nonprofit entity.

An application for donation of a vessel must address the following
major
areas:

Business/Financial Plan - The applicant must submit detailed evidence
of
firm financing to offset all costs association with the donation
including:
mooring, towing, environmental surveys and clean-up, dredging, museum
development, maintenance, refurbishment of the vessel, pier, insurance,
legal services, etc. Firm financing is defined as available money to
ensure
the first five years of operation and future stability of the museum
for
long-term operation. The business/financial plan must include start-up
costs

(all costs incurred before opening) and support costs for the first
five
years of operation. The plan should also include a detailed marketing
plan
with visitor projections and demographic information to support the
business

and financial plan. In addition, the applicant should provide evidence
that
planning and resources are in place for disposition of the vessel in
the
event of bankruptcy or inability to properly maintain the vessel.

Mooring Plan - A detailed mooring plan consists of identifying and
securing
a permanent, long-term mooring location (at least 10 years) that is
acceptable to the Navy. A permanent mooring design must be capable of
withstanding a 100-year storm condition without damage to the ship, its
mooring system or neighboring facilities.

Maintenance Plan - The applicant must provide a detailed maintenance
plan.
Long-term, short term and daily maintenance items must be addressed.
Among
other areas, the plan should address drydocking and the qualifications
of
the proposed maintenance staff.

Towing Plan - After donation, the donee is responsible for relocation
of
the

vessel. The applicant must provide a detailed towing plan that follows
the
Navy Tow Manual requirements, and contains specific information
concerning
the tow of the vessel from where it is currently located to the
permanent
mooring site.

Environmental Plan - The applicant must demonstrate an understanding of
environmental requirements including hazardous materials, endangered
species, dredging disposal, and requirement environmental permits.

Curatorial/Museum Plan - The applicant must provide a detailed
curatorial
plan. The plan should address the organization's collection policy,
exhibit
plans, and collection management procedures. It should described
storage
facilities, security and protection of artifacts, curatorial resources,
and
the qualifications of the professional museum staff.

NOTE: The Navy does not impose a page limit on applications; however,
please

do not duplicate information that is already provided in another
section
of
the application. Also, the applicant must provide supporting
information
to
meeting donation requirements. The Navy considers donation applications
as
business sensitive and proprietary documents and will not provide
copies
to
prospective donees.

Once an application is received, it will go through an evaluation
process.
If there is more than one application, then it will go through a
two-step
evaluation process. Phase I is a screening process to determine if the
application has met minimum donation requirements. Phase II is a
comparative

analysis to determine the best qualified application. Additional
criteria
may be used by the Secretary of the Navy if appropriate. The Secretary
of
the Navy makes the final decision. Once a selection is announced, the
Navy
notifies Congress. Congress has 30 days of continuous session, of both
Houses of Congress, to consider this decision.
HISTORY REFERENCE:

The keel was laid down by Electric Boat Division in Groton Connecticut
on
December 1, 1949. It was launched August 21, 1951. USS TROUT (SS 566)
was
commissioned at the U.S. Naval Submarine Base, New London, Connecticut
on
27
June 1952.

She was built by the Electric Boat Division of General Dynamics
Corporation
in Groton, Connecticut as a Fast Attack, USS TANG (SS 563) Class,
Diesel
Electric Submarine.

TROUT is the second submarine in the U.S. Navy to, bear the name Her
predecessor, USS TROUT SS 202, distinguished herself in ten war
patrols-during World War II in which she sank 25 enemy ships for a
total
of
75,000 tons. She was lost on her eleventh patrol in Feburary, 29, 1944,
leaving a great tradition of excellence for her namesake.

TROUT was commanded by LCDR E. L. WILLEVER of Stewartsville, New Jersey
in
1966. Her Executive Officer is LCDR E. J. SABOL, Jr., of Medina, Ohio.
She
has a complement of 10 officers and men. She is powered by three diesel
engines when surfaced and two batteries when submerged. After her
Commissioning, TROUT operated as a unit of Submarine squadron TEN in
New
London, Connecticut until August 1960. The keel was laid down by
Electric
Boat Division in Groton Connecticut on December 1, 1949. It was
launched
August 21, 1951. She now operates as a unit of Submarine Squadron FOUR
with
Charleston, South Carolina as her homeport.

During TROUT'S years of service she has taken part in many exercises
with
our own and allied navies and has visited many-European, Caribbean and
South
American ports.

In March 1959, TROUT set a record for distance traveled under ice for a
diesel-electric type submarine. In September of the same year, TROUT
deployed to the Mediterranean to serve with the U.S. Sixth Fleet. En
route
to her homeport, she stopped in Bergen, Norway to represent the United
States at the 5Oth Anniversary Celebration of the Norwegian Submarine
Force.

TROUT was a test vehicle for the Bureau of Ships "Shock Tests" in
February
1960. She was the first ship to complete these tests. TROUT was awarded
the
Battle Efficiency Award in 1961. She wore the coveted white "E" on her
sail
for one year as the symbol of standing first among the submarines of
Squadron FOUR in annual competition.

Oct. 1962, the TROUT was sent out as point vessel to possibly sink a
Soviet
merchant ship that was transporting ICBM's into Cuba. It was real
dicey.
We
will remember it as the Cuban Missile Crisis. William Crowe was skipper
of
the USS Trout at that time. Later in his Naval Career he was promoted
to
the
rank of Admiral and Admiral William Crowe was appointed Chairman Joint
Chiefs of staff.

In early 1963 TROUT rendered service's to the Operational-Test and
Evaluation Force for several project operations. She assisted the
surface
Anti-Submarine Forces by simulating an unfriendly unit penetrating U.S.
waters. She also assumed the role of enemy while hindering major fleet
amphibious exercises.
TROUT spent the remainder of 1963 undergoing an extensive overhaul at
Charleston Naval Shipyard.

In 1964, after post-overhaul fire control checks in New London,
Connecticut,
TROUT made preparations for another Mediterranean deployment. She
arrived
in
Lisbon, Portugal on April 17th and from there visited the ports of
Palma,
Barcelona, Cannes, Toulon, Naples, Athens and Malta, Operations during
the
deployment included exercises with various NATO commands. During the
latter
part of 1964, TROUT participated-in a joint Canadian-U.S. exercise
along
the
East Coast of the United States and: assisted the U.S. Navy Underwater
Sound
Laboratory; in its evaluation of new developments in electronic
equipment.
1965 was a busy year for TROUT. The months of March and April were
spent
in
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, providing services to Anti-submarine Warfare
forces.
Visits to Port Antonio and Montego Bay and Kingston Jamaica highlighted
this
deployment. In May TROUT received a new battery installment and
accomplished
interim docking at Charleston Naval Shipyard. In July TROUT was once
again
honored with the award of the Battle Efficiency "E" for Excellence,
having
achieved top standing among the submarines of Submarine Division FORTY
TWO
in the annual competition.

During the later part of 1965 TROUT participated in a mine laying
exercise
with several other submarines that Were Opposed by "enemy" aircraft and
surface ships. This was followed by an exercise that required TROUT to
make
an undetected submerged transit through waters controlled by "enemy"
ships,
planes and submarines.

In February and March l966 TROUT spent Six weeks in the Caribbean
providing
services for Anti-submarine Warfare, forces in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba,
and
for
the Operational Test and Evaluation Force, both in St. Croix U.S.
Virgin
Islands, and Key West, Florida.

In July 1970, she was assigned to the Pacific Fleet. Homeported at San
Diego, California, TROUT conducted two WesPac deployments -- in 1972
and
1975 -- primarily providing submarine services during ASW exercises
conducted by warships of the U.S., South Korea, or Nationalist Chinese
navies. Between these deployments, the submarine participated in
antisubmarine warfare exercises and conducted local operations off the
southern California operating areas, punctuating this service with
weapons
tests in the Pacific Northwest, out of Puget Sound.

After returning from her second WesPac deployment to San Diego on 20
January
1976, TROUT operated off the west coast until receiving orders on 1
December
changing her homeport to Philadelphia. She was decommissioned and
struck
from the Navy list on 19 December 1978 and sold to Iran. When the
American
hostages were seized at the American Embassy in Iran, TROUT was seized
as
an
Iranian asset.

She was sold to Naval Undersea Warfare Center for scrap value of
$20,000
in
1992 to be used as a target remotely controlled (unmanned) target
vessel
for
the US Naval Aircraft in Key West, FL.

Trout was never used for this purpose but was stored in Key West until
2004
and was kept in good material condition by subvets mainly led by USSVI
member Mike Wheeler, prior to being transferred to the Inactive Ships
Facility in Philadelphia and was made available for donation as a
museum
ship. As always, the USN retains ownership of these museum boats and
has
standards of maintenence the operator must comply with.

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Larry wrote:

She was sold to Naval Undersea Warfare Center for scrap value of
$20,000
in
1992 to be used as a target remotely controlled (unmanned) target
vessel
for
the US Naval Aircraft in Key West, FL.

I'd buy her for $20K and take her cruising, but
they wouldn't sell her to me :)

Don W.

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"Don W" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:

She was sold to Naval Undersea Warfare Center for scrap value of
$20,000
in
1992 to be used as a target remotely controlled (unmanned) target
vessel
for
the US Naval Aircraft in Key West, FL.

I'd buy her for $20K and take her cruising, but they wouldn't sell her to
me :)

Don W.


Yeah, we sell our old Navy ships to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, probably
Libya now, but an American Citizen can't buy a Nuke-U-Ler sub for love or
money. Or even an old Diesel Boat. Crikey!

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Interested in acquiring a USN combat diesel submarine as a museum in
your
town? This may be your very last chance, so strike while the iron is
hot!

snip........

I'll inform our navy. They like to buy old lemon type submarines cast adrift
by other countries.

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:22:09 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
.. .
Interested in acquiring a USN combat diesel submarine as a museum in
your
town? This may be your very last chance, so strike while the iron is
hot!

snip........

I'll inform our navy. They like to buy old lemon type submarines cast adrift
by other countries.

I'd love to buy it if I could afford vthe diesel. It would be a great
way to avoid pirates. Besides, If you arrived at a marina with only
the conning tower above water, the length on deck would mean
substantially less berthing fees. In really bad weather, one could
submerge beneath the waves. I'd hate to have to sand it before
applying antifouling every year though - or pay for the paint.

Peter Hendra

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"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:22:09 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
. ..
Interested in acquiring a USN combat diesel submarine as a museum in
your
town? This may be your very last chance, so strike while the iron is
hot!

snip........

I'll inform our navy. They like to buy old lemon type submarines cast
adrift
by other countries.

I'd love to buy it if I could afford vthe diesel. It would be a great
way to avoid pirates. Besides, If you arrived at a marina with only
the conning tower above water, the length on deck would mean
substantially less berthing fees. In really bad weather, one could
submerge beneath the waves. I'd hate to have to sand it before
applying antifouling every year though - or pay for the paint.

Peter Hendra

I have it on good authority that a nice layer of barnacles is the best
anti-fouling known to the universe.

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"KLC Lewis" wrote
I have it on good authority that a nice layer of barnacles is the best
anti-fouling known to the universe.


Just out of interest, what do they paint subs with?

Is it some type of antifouling?

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:25:09 +0000, Larry wrote:

Peter Hendra wrote in
:

If you arrived at a marina with only
the conning tower above water, the length on deck would mean
substantially less berthing fees

You could also tie up the conning tower, leaving the rest of the boat
sitting firmly on the bottom, fore and aft, UNDER the neighbor's keels.
This would eliminate all that rolling motion every time the damned
fishermen waked the marina at 0400. Having the "cabin" submerged would
also be great in summer and winter! Without the hull sitting in the summer
sun, your cabin would stay nice and cool, totally underwater. In winter,
only the conning tower would be out in the cold, while the hull is ABOVE
freezing, sitting on the bottom....easier to heat.



Larry

Yes, the mind absolutely boggles with the possibilities and
advantages. As to the antifouling, I use dehydrated di-hydrogen oxide
on my hard dinghy and nothing at all grows on it. I am thinking of
using it on my new inflatable as well.

Peter

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On 14 Mar 2007 18:45:02 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:13:36 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Yes, the mind absolutely boggles with the possibilities and
advantages. As to the antifouling, I use dehydrated di-hydrogen oxide
on my hard dinghy and nothing at all grows on it. I am thinking of
using it on my new inflatable as well.

Dehydrated water = nothing. But, good try . . .

Um....I think he means he takes it out of the water when he isn't using it.
Sailed right over your head.

Yes, but at least he knew what it is. I have sent several people to
the pharmacists to buy it in the past - with understable mixed
reactions - I can run fast.

cheers
Peter

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Peter Hendra wrote in
:

If you arrived at a marina with only
the conning tower above water, the length on deck would mean
substantially less berthing fees

You could also tie up the conning tower, leaving the rest of the boat
sitting firmly on the bottom, fore and aft, UNDER the neighbor's keels.
This would eliminate all that rolling motion every time the damned
fishermen waked the marina at 0400. Having the "cabin" submerged would
also be great in summer and winter! Without the hull sitting in the summer
sun, your cabin would stay nice and cool, totally underwater. In winter,
only the conning tower would be out in the cold, while the hull is ABOVE
freezing, sitting on the bottom....easier to heat.



Larry
--
If one of your neighbors wanted to change out his sonar transducer, you
could simply park on the end of him and "surface" the boat, floating him up
on some blocks on deck....a sort of floating drydock...(c;

We might even get HIM to help out with YOUR bottom paint costs!

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"Noname" wrote in news:c2KJh.144$_f.19
@read2.cgocable.net:

Just out of interest, what do they paint subs with?

Is it some type of antifouling?




It's much nastier than that. Navy subs are painted with this really toxic
coating nothing can live on...that you're not allowed to have on your boat,
of course. It surrounds the boat in a toxic film sea life cannot tolerate.
The boats always look like they just came out of drydock. Even the green
slime doesn't stick.

Larry
--
How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:52:16 +0000, Larry wrote:



Seaman Apprentice are wonderful toys the Navy bought us to play with. I
even made some of them into great technicians, those that were
interested. If they screwed up, a week on BMC Wilson's deck force
painting crew made new men out of them. When they returned to my nice,
air conditioned electronics shop, they seemed much more appreciative of
our wonderful position in the crew pecking order of things....much more
appreciative. BMC Wilson had the smile of a true pirate when I delivered
a young ETSA for "instruction" in the finer details of running a chipping
hammer and spray gun.


Larry

There's a wonderful American here at Chagaramus - Jack, who drifts
around this part of the Caribbean in semi-retirement. Last year I
helped him antifoul his boat. We didn't have enough red antifouling
and the stockist only had blue so we applied that as well, reasoning
that, being under water, it wouldn't be seen. Jack is one of those
people whom people gravitate to and seek his good advice on various
boating topics. Passersby in the yard began to enquire as to why the
multicoloured bottom paint. - Jack's dry response was that it
prevented collisions with migrating whales.

Within a week, two more boats had multicoloured anti-fouling.

I thank God for interesting people.

Peter

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"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:25:09 +0000, Larry wrote:

Peter Hendra wrote in
m:

If you arrived at a marina with only
the conning tower above water, the length on deck would mean
substantially less berthing fees

You could also tie up the conning tower, leaving the rest of the boat
sitting firmly on the bottom, fore and aft, UNDER the neighbor's
keels.
This would eliminate all that rolling motion every time the damned
fishermen waked the marina at 0400. Having the "cabin" submerged
would
also be great in summer and winter! Without the hull sitting in the
summer
sun, your cabin would stay nice and cool, totally underwater. In
winter,
only the conning tower would be out in the cold, while the hull is
ABOVE
freezing, sitting on the bottom....easier to heat.



Larry

Yes, the mind absolutely boggles with the possibilities and
advantages. As to the antifouling, I use dehydrated di-hydrogen oxide
on my hard dinghy and nothing at all grows on it. I am thinking of
using it on my new inflatable as well.

Dehydrated water = nothing. But, good try . . .

Wilbur Hubbard

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Peter Hendra wrote in
:

As to the antifouling, I use dehydrated di-hydrogen oxide
on my hard dinghy and nothing at all grows on it. I am thinking of
using it on my new inflatable as well.


The might prove a problem for your Korean War Diesel Submarine. Those
damned docks can only float so much, you know...(c;


Larry
--
How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!

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Peter Hendra wrote in
:

Yes, but at least he knew what it is. I have sent several people to
the pharmacists to buy it in the past - with understable mixed
reactions - I can run fast.

cheers
Peter



Back in the REAL Navy, we used to send newbies to Aft GSK for a fallopian
tube for the SPS-6 radar, complete with the supply requisition forms all
signed and filled out. The storekeepers, in cahoots of course, would cut
off a couple of feet of latex surgical hose and make him sign for it,
conclusively proving how stupid he was.

The puzzled newbie electronics technician striker would bring the tubing
back up to the shop, where the whole ET gang would be assembled, from the
Master Chief on down to the LAST sucker we pulled this on....giving him
an applause and a Coke for a job will done.

Unfortunately, after this trick on him, he was MUCH harder to convince he
was to stand the "Mail Bouy Midwatch" from midnight to 4AM, watching for
our mail bouy from the carrier to go by so we could snatch it....(c;

Seaman Apprentice are wonderful toys the Navy bought us to play with. I
even made some of them into great technicians, those that were
interested. If they screwed up, a week on BMC Wilson's deck force
painting crew made new men out of them. When they returned to my nice,
air conditioned electronics shop, they seemed much more appreciative of
our wonderful position in the crew pecking order of things....much more
appreciative. BMC Wilson had the smile of a true pirate when I delivered
a young ETSA for "instruction" in the finer details of running a chipping
hammer and spray gun.

You guys would have LOVED Chief Wilson. He was a master diver to clean
the hull and damned proud of it. He'd even dive into a sewer like
Naples, Italy's harbor! THAT takes a brave man!

Larry
--
Anybody here been a Navy Pollywog?