KLC Lewis wrote:
"steve_hayes_maine" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 1:13 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:

Dave ,, funny you should ask. I actually have plans on heading for Cuba,
as
soon as old Fidel takes a dirt nap. Shouldn't be too long, my guess.

Just in case this is more than the ordinary BS, you might want to
consider the following from the Coast Guard site:

Failure to comply with the Coast Guard, Commerce, Treasury, or other
Federal government regulations regarding travel to Cuba will subject
violators to federal criminal prosecution, as well as possible
administrative proceedings by the Department of Commerce and
Department of Treasury. Penalties for violations of these Federal
statutes and regulations can result in fines, imprisonment, vessel
seizure and forfeiture, and denial of future export privileges.

If you do not have all of the appropriate permits and licenses
required by the Department of Commerce and the Department of Treasury,
and you make a voyage into Cuban territorial waters, you are
subjecting yourself to any and all of these sanctions. You are hereby
advised that, in compliance with direction from the President, the
U.S. Coast Guard will be stringently monitoring maritime traffic to
and from Cuba in order to ensure that vessels subject to U.S.
jurisdiction have complied with all applicable licensing requirements,
laws, and regulations, and will take aggressive enforcement actions if
those conditions are not met.

Steve Hayes



Ain't it grand to live in a "free" country?


It sucks, unless you compare it to all the other types of countries.

Stephen

"KLC Lewis" wrote in news:BLednS7ht6V0wkvYnZ2dnUVZ_r-
:

Ain't it grand to live in a "free" country?



I believe "grand" has been replaced by "stupid"....

Larry
--
Vista has been out a week.
Is Service Pack 1 ready yet?

Hey Steve .. blah blah blah .............. what a pile of dog ****. Boats
from florida have been visiting Cuba for YEARS.

Tell the US Government to go stick it up their ass. Christ, the federal
government can't even control the border between the US and Mexico!

I don't know what your problem is but if you post your address I will get
you a Cuban T Shirt..

It will say: "The Weather is Here ... Wish you were Beautiful".


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"steve_hayes_maine" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 1:13 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Dave ,, funny you should ask. I actually have plans on heading for Cuba,
as
soon as old Fidel takes a dirt nap. Shouldn't be too long, my guess.

Just in case this is more than the ordinary BS, you might want to
consider the following from the Coast Guard site:

Failure to comply with the Coast Guard, Commerce, Treasury, or other
Federal government regulations regarding travel to Cuba will subject
violators to federal criminal prosecution, as well as possible
administrative proceedings by the Department of Commerce and
Department of Treasury. Penalties for violations of these Federal
statutes and regulations can result in fines, imprisonment, vessel
seizure and forfeiture, and denial of future export privileges.

If you do not have all of the appropriate permits and licenses
required by the Department of Commerce and the Department of Treasury,
and you make a voyage into Cuban territorial waters, you are
subjecting yourself to any and all of these sanctions. You are hereby
advised that, in compliance with direction from the President, the
U.S. Coast Guard will be stringently monitoring maritime traffic to
and from Cuba in order to ensure that vessels subject to U.S.
jurisdiction have complied with all applicable licensing requirements,
laws, and regulations, and will take aggressive enforcement actions if
those conditions are not met.

Steve Hayes

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
news:BLednS7ht6V0wkvYnZ2dnUVZ_r-
:

Ain't it grand to live in a "free" country?



I believe "grand" has been replaced by "stupid"....

Larry
--
Vista has been out a week.
Is Service Pack 1 ready yet?

As someone once said, "America has gone from being a land of great freedoms
and petty tyrannies to a land of petty freedoms and great tyrannies."

"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:LwuBh.2790$am1.1225@trndny01:

I don't know what your problem is but if you post your address I will
get you a Cuban T Shirt..



Wouldn't it be fun to wear that into the CG or Customs office to see if
anyone notices....hee hee....(c;

Larry
--
Vista has been out a week.
Is Service Pack 1 ready yet?

On Feb 16, 11:21 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Hey Steve .. blah blah blah .............. what a pile of dog ****. Boats
from florida have been visiting Cuba for YEARS.

Tell the US Government to go stick it up their ass. Christ, the federal
government can't even control the border between the US and Mexico!

I don't know what your problem is but if you post your address I will get
you a Cuban T Shirt..

It will say: "The Weather is Here ... Wish you were Beautiful".

============================================"steve _hayes_maine" wrote in message

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On Feb 15, 1:13 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Dave ,, funny you should ask. I actually have plans on heading for Cuba,
as
soon as old Fidel takes a dirt nap. Shouldn't be too long, my guess.

Just in case this is more than the ordinary BS, you might want to
consider the following from the Coast Guard site:

Failure to comply with the Coast Guard, Commerce, Treasury, or other
Federal government regulations regarding travel to Cuba will subject
violators to federal criminal prosecution, as well as possible
administrative proceedings by the Department of Commerce and
Department of Treasury. Penalties for violations of these Federal
statutes and regulations can result in fines, imprisonment, vessel
seizure and forfeiture, and denial of future export privileges.

If you do not have all of the appropriate permits and licenses
required by the Department of Commerce and the Department of Treasury,
and you make a voyage into Cuban territorial waters, you are
subjecting yourself to any and all of these sanctions. You are hereby
advised that, in compliance with direction from the President, the
U.S. Coast Guard will be stringently monitoring maritime traffic to
and from Cuba in order to ensure that vessels subject to U.S.
jurisdiction have complied with all applicable licensing requirements,
laws, and regulations, and will take aggressive enforcement actions if
those conditions are not met.

Steve Hayes- Hide quoted text -

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No, sadly it's not a "pile of dog ****" the US government has made it
much, much harder to travel to Cuba by boat. Or any other way for that
matter.

In fact they have made it technicaly illegal to think about going
there. Because unless things have changed, if you are caught with
charts and other items that show your intent to go to Cuba, you could
be held in violation of federal law.

And by the way, try not to top post. It tends to mess up the flow.

"capt.bill11" wrote in message
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No, sadly it's not a "pile of dog ****" the US government has made it
much, much harder to travel to Cuba by boat. Or any other way for that
matter.

In fact they have made it technicaly illegal to think about going
there. Because unless things have changed, if you are caught with
charts and other items that show your intent to go to Cuba, you could
be held in violation of federal law.

And by the way, try not to top post. It tends to mess up the flow.


Shouldn't the Gummit stop printing charts that show the existence of Cuba,
then? About every chart I have of southern Florida has that big honkin'
island to the south. Therefore I intend to travel there? And not for
nothing, but as a "free Citizen," I can travel to freaking China, but not
Cuba? There's something seriously wrong with this picture.

Go to bottom ... or go wipe your bottom .. take your pick
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"capt.bill11" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 16, 11:21 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Hey Steve .. blah blah blah .............. what a pile of dog ****.
Boats
from florida have been visiting Cuba for YEARS.

Tell the US Government to go stick it up their ass. Christ, the federal
government can't even control the border between the US and Mexico!

I don't know what your problem is but if you post your address I will get
you a Cuban T Shirt..

It will say: "The Weather is Here ... Wish you were Beautiful".

============================================"steve _hayes_maine"
wrote in message

oups.com...



On Feb 15, 1:13 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Dave ,, funny you should ask. I actually have plans on heading for
Cuba,
as
soon as old Fidel takes a dirt nap. Shouldn't be too long, my guess.

Just in case this is more than the ordinary BS, you might want to
consider the following from the Coast Guard site:

Failure to comply with the Coast Guard, Commerce, Treasury, or other
Federal government regulations regarding travel to Cuba will subject
violators to federal criminal prosecution, as well as possible
administrative proceedings by the Department of Commerce and
Department of Treasury. Penalties for violations of these Federal
statutes and regulations can result in fines, imprisonment, vessel
seizure and forfeiture, and denial of future export privileges.

If you do not have all of the appropriate permits and licenses
required by the Department of Commerce and the Department of Treasury,
and you make a voyage into Cuban territorial waters, you are
subjecting yourself to any and all of these sanctions. You are hereby
advised that, in compliance with direction from the President, the
U.S. Coast Guard will be stringently monitoring maritime traffic to
and from Cuba in order to ensure that vessels subject to U.S.
jurisdiction have complied with all applicable licensing requirements,
laws, and regulations, and will take aggressive enforcement actions if
those conditions are not met.

Steve Hayes- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No, sadly it's not a "pile of dog ****" the US government has made it
much, much harder to travel to Cuba by boat. Or any other way for that
matter.

In fact they have made it technicaly illegal to think about going
there. Because unless things have changed, if you are caught with
charts and other items that show your intent to go to Cuba, you could
be held in violation of federal law.

And by the way, try not to top post. It tends to mess up the flow.

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The bottom .. or bottom post ... whatever..

I have no idea what you smoke, or where you work [ US government employee? ]
....

Cuba may be "opening up" in the foreseeable future to U.S. Cruisers. In the
interim, it's not illegal to go - - only to spend money there. (Note the
recent crackdown (summer 2004) by the Bush Administration on boaters going
to the keys - even activity that seems to fall within the scope of current
law) . Cruisers come and go all the time from the U.S. - though it is true
that the Bush Administration in enforcing current regulations with some
degree of passionate intimidation. If you go just don't even think about
bringing things back, like Cigars or anything else - unless you have a
specific Treasury Dept license. Bring back nothing, and since you're not
going to spend any of your US Dollars in direct cash anyway, as is accepted
in Cuba, there's no reason for you to get or keep any receipts for anything.
Recently though US Customs has been cracking down on casual travel to Cuba -
presuming that you spent money with proof or not, and levying large fines.
According to OFAC (Office of Foreign Asset Control - Dept of Treasury), more
than 150,000 US citizens visited Cuba last year (2000), and only two thirds
were licensed under provisions for cultural exchanges and limited commercial
activities. Travel to other communist states, such as China, Vietnam and
North Korea, is permitted. For an article from Conchord Cayo Hueso's
newsletter about current (02/02) efforts to lift travel restrictions, Click
Here. (If you went to Cuba and now have intimidating letters from the
Treasury Dept - see the Response Letters below before responding to
anything) At the bottom of this page you'll find US government documents on
travel to Cuba. The Coast Guard can issue a special permit for leaving the
S. Florida area for Cuba. With only 90 miles of water between Marathon and
Cuba, Boot Key Harbor is the ideal port for Cuban & Caribbean bound
cruisers. Marathon, and Boot Key Harbor is the ONLY fully protected large
Harbor in the Keys. Go on to Key West if you're looking for a major party
port, lots of tourists and can deal with unprotected, rolly anchorages - -
But if you're a serious cruiser who wants the protected anchorage and
marinas of Boot Key Harbor, with easily accessible supplies and provisions,
Marathon is the only consideration. You'll probably want to reprovision and
wait for weather in Marathon. We recommend Nigel Calder's Cruising Guide to
CUBA (available through Bluewater Books listed below, & other Marine
stores).

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There ya have it ... not illegal to go,, just illegal to spend US Money.
For Bush to even think about fining cruising boats because they have a chart
on board it unbelievable. Wait: Denocrats took over the House, and the
Senate ........ holy ****! Time to make a phone call.

=================

Truth is posting: I voted for George Bush TWICE ............... oh well,
could not vote for a phoney war hero and mr global sweating.

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Any day, it could happen as I write this // Fidel Castro is about to go
visit Che. The poor man is very sick.

Tell us all: after Fidel goes to the big sugar plantation in the sky, what
reason will there be for telling Americans they can't visit Cuba.

Since my boat is in the North East USA, I wasn't planning to get to Cuba
until next winter. Should be just about right for a perfect schedule.

Now,, time to go and talk to my golfing partner ....................... he
is the NEW CONGRESSMAN FROM THE 2ND DISTRICT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE.


VIVA LA CUBA!

Go to bottom ... I've been warned:
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"capt.bill11" wrote in message
ups.com...
No, sadly it's not a "pile of dog ****" the US government has made it
much, much harder to travel to Cuba by boat. Or any other way for that
matter.

In fact they have made it technicaly illegal to think about going
there. Because unless things have changed, if you are caught with
charts and other items that show your intent to go to Cuba, you could
be held in violation of federal law.

And by the way, try not to top post. It tends to mess up the flow.


Shouldn't the Gummit stop printing charts that show the existence of Cuba,
then? About every chart I have of southern Florida has that big honkin'
island to the south. Therefore I intend to travel there? And not for
nothing, but as a "free Citizen," I can travel to freaking China, but not
Cuba? There's something seriously wrong with this picture.
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KLC ,, China Mart ... Ooops,, I mean Walmart ... has everything in every
aisle from the largest communist country on earth ..

CHINA!

But some asshole in Washington, DC is TELLING SAILORS THEY CAN'T VISIT CUBA
AND IF THE COAST GUARD BOARDS AND YOU HAVE A CHART OF FLORIDA WHICH SHOWS
CUBA AS EVERY CHART I HAVE OF FLORIDA DOES .......... THEY WILL TAKE YOUR
BOAT.

ARE YA STARTING TO THINK ... THE USA IS A ****ED UP MESS!

bottom post ..
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"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
Well! I am astonished at the tone of this thread from a bunch of people
who
by all rights should be off the wall right wing nuts. Bravo!

If you want to go to Cuba, what is to stop you from going via any other
country in the region rather than directly from the U.S.?

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Many US tourists travel to Cancun and then take a plane to Cuba. Or, up my
way they travel to Canada and then off to Cuba. This can get tricky now
that the passport regs have been tightened.

Have you been to Montreal lately? Up the street from me.

All over town, big billboards,, real big ,,, with a picture of a beautiful
lady in a bikini. She is lying on a beach ,, in French it says something to
the effect "come to Cuba, enjoy a vacation" ..

The French Canadians I've spoken to love Cuba. And they love that "we"
can't go there. Why? Because, according to them, it keeps the price down
and they get a better deal.

I wonder if we are allowed to sail to Iraq. Such a lovely country. With
all our billions of dollars! I'm sure the Arabs in Iraq will love us.

)(*&^%$

I tell ya.. and I am not kidding. If the **** that is going on in
Washington does not stop soon, there will be a revolution right here in the
USA.

Even the fat and happy Americans can only take so much.