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Rosalie,

If you have insurance, you might not have the option of sailing offshore
with the two of you (or only him, which you don't seem to want at all --
ammo on your side coming): Many insurance policies will REQUIRE the addition
of more crew for offshore sailing.

If yours doesn't, maybe it's time to find one that does? ;-)

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
Don W wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:
Larry wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote in
m:


Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44


You two shouldn't even leave the slip without at LEAST TWO, Strong YOUNG
hands who know how to sail it without you.


Well that's as may be.

Although I think I could run the boat by myself if I absolutely had to
(we have both been working out at the gym this winter, so I'm more fit
than I was), and especially I can motor, and work the autopilot and
all the communications stuff, get the weather and navigate. I can
also turn the engine on and I know how to anchor..

At the worst, I know how to call for help on the radio

Mostly I don't want Bob singlehanding, but if it comes to a point
where he is pigheaded enough to go without me when I don't think going
is safe then I will have a hard decision to make. Let him go and
perhaps die?

Maybe you could find an acceptable compromise by
insisting that you would like to go along, but you
also want a third (or fourth) crew along as well.

Yes that has always been something that would work for me. But he
doesn't want to consider it. He just doesn't want anyone else but me
on the boat. If push came to shove, I don't know what I would do.

We had a couple go with us for 3 weeks on the ICW and I enjoyed that
so much. But they've got their own boat now - a smaller CSY. She
won't do ocean passages with him, and so he single hands and she meets
him in the ports. But I think he's a bit younger than Bob, and she's
much more of a chicken than I am.

I think there are quite a few unpaid
volunteers available if you look around far enough
in advance, and you can always hire a licensed
captain to accompany you if desperate. Some of
them are looking to build sea time, and are
available quite inexpensively. A lot of bareboat
charter companys maintain lists of independent
captains.

I am assuming that it is the passages that you are
most worried about, and not gunkholing around the
islands.

We didn't take the boat out at all last summer because he was having
dental work done every week. So we will see how it goes this summer.
I'm perfectly happy gunkholing around in the Chesapeake for a couple
of weeks at a time.

He doesn't want to fly anywhere, so I guess if I'm going to travel at
all, I'll have to start taking my grandchildren with me. I'm going to
Ireland in June with the fourth oldest one (the first two are 26 and
24 years old respectively, and the third one died when he was 2.5)

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KLC Lewis wrote:

"Olecapt" wrote in message
...

Hmm silence. Is it the "we are not going to offer an opinion because
Skip and Lydia will see it?" Or is the subject simply too painful to
raise. That is how we avoid a lot of the truths in blue water sailing.



Do you really think there's anything to be said that Skip isn't already
saying to himself, in no uncertain terms?

Well, he's saying they are too old to be cruising around as they are. I
don't think Skip believes that or he wouldn't be thinking of continuing
with his cruising. I'm not qualified to give an opinion, but I do think
it's valid topic for discussion and not out of line to talk about.

Stephen

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In article ,
Larry wrote:

Test it for yourself. Pick a relatively bad day...raining, 25 knots,
4' seas increasing. Sit down in the cockpit and say to her, "I just
broke my leg when it got fouled in the jib sheet coming back aft from
shortening sail."


Doesn't have to be so dramatic. Every once in a while, I simply announce
I'm taking a nap and let her carry on however she wants to.

Key, though, is that I'm not influencing her decisions in any way. She
can't sail worth a darn if I'm looking over her shoulder, but is fairly
adequate if she has complete control.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's NEW Pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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"KLC Lewis" wrote:

Rosalie,

If you have insurance, you might not have the option of sailing offshore
with the two of you (or only him, which you don't seem to want at all --
ammo on your side coming): Many insurance policies will REQUIRE the addition
of more crew for offshore sailing.

If yours doesn't, maybe it's time to find one that does? ;-)

He has not (as yet) gotten insurance for that, but since the boat loan
is secured with the house, the bank isn't that interested in the
insurance - we mostly have it for ourselves and for the marina.

I guess if he changes the insurance to allow us to go
down island, then I should start getting concerned.

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
.. .
Don W wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:
Larry wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote in
om:


Yes but Bob is going to be 71 in March, he's had a heart attack, and
our boat is a CSY 44


You two shouldn't even leave the slip without at LEAST TWO, Strong YOUNG
hands who know how to sail it without you.


Well that's as may be.

Although I think I could run the boat by myself if I absolutely had to
(we have both been working out at the gym this winter, so I'm more fit
than I was), and especially I can motor, and work the autopilot and
all the communications stuff, get the weather and navigate. I can
also turn the engine on and I know how to anchor..

At the worst, I know how to call for help on the radio

Mostly I don't want Bob singlehanding, but if it comes to a point
where he is pigheaded enough to go without me when I don't think going
is safe then I will have a hard decision to make. Let him go and
perhaps die?

Maybe you could find an acceptable compromise by
insisting that you would like to go along, but you
also want a third (or fourth) crew along as well.

Yes that has always been something that would work for me. But he
doesn't want to consider it. He just doesn't want anyone else but me
on the boat. If push came to shove, I don't know what I would do.

We had a couple go with us for 3 weeks on the ICW and I enjoyed that
so much. But they've got their own boat now - a smaller CSY. She
won't do ocean passages with him, and so he single hands and she meets
him in the ports. But I think he's a bit younger than Bob, and she's
much more of a chicken than I am.

I think there are quite a few unpaid
volunteers available if you look around far enough
in advance, and you can always hire a licensed
captain to accompany you if desperate. Some of
them are looking to build sea time, and are
available quite inexpensively. A lot of bareboat
charter companys maintain lists of independent
captains.

I am assuming that it is the passages that you are
most worried about, and not gunkholing around the
islands.

We didn't take the boat out at all last summer because he was having
dental work done every week. So we will see how it goes this summer.
I'm perfectly happy gunkholing around in the Chesapeake for a couple
of weeks at a time.

He doesn't want to fly anywhere, so I guess if I'm going to travel at
all, I'll have to start taking my grandchildren with me. I'm going to
Ireland in June with the fourth oldest one (the first two are 26 and
24 years old respectively, and the third one died when he was 2.5)

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Rosalie B. wrote in
:

Your roller must be placed differently than ours. We can see.


Yes, ours is only 15' from the bow as the Amel is a ketch. The deck-
stepped mizzen base is the aft bulkhead of the cockpit.


http://www.selfsteer.com/boats/photo...melSharki39-4-
2.jpg
This an actual picture of "Lionheart" back in the late 80's when she was
Xanareva in San Francisco. She was very primative back then in
instrumentation and electronics. If you look through her windscreen,
which is no longer fixed mounted plexiglass Geoffrey replaced with
openable Lexan windscreens for the South, you can see the deck-stepped
mast base forward of her main cabin skylight hatch. Furling is on the
forward side of that mast about 2' off the deck. There are 5 winches out
of the picture for all the various lines on her mast used to haul up more
rags. That awful Amel helmsman's seat that will kill your back and hiney
after an hour on it, has been replaced with a custom closed-cell foam
helmsman seat of my captain's design. Cockpit seating uses the same
closed cell foam custom soft seating with NO miserable sunbrella covers
to scrub. The surface of the foam has Lionheart's logo and blue
pinstripe trim. It wipes off very easily, usually with the ever-handy
tea towel, and is unaffected by stepping on it with shoes on.

That horrible-looking self steerer this webpage shows with its line or
chain to the port coaming I've never seen. Amel's analog autopilot was
chain driven behind the wheel over the galley sink. The cupboard behind
the wheel on the bulkhead is where lots of my electronic network toys and
main electrical DC panel is located...useless to the galley but it has
TONS of storage elsewhere so we don't miss it. Our Raymarine RL70CRC
color chart plotter-radar is where that big compass shows with an old
Garmin GPSmap 185 plotter/gps/sonar charter to the right under the bell.
The compass was moved behind the radar and up above it with a custom-made
binnacle in Cap'n Geoffrey's woodshop in Atlanta.

http://www.yachtsoffshore.com/images/amel.jpg
Here's an Amel Sharki undeway on a reach under 4 sails, including my
captain's beloved mizzen staysail. I think the picture's a fake. She's
too slow to make that much wake under these sails unless the picture was
taken in a full gale....hee hee. That's an awful small jib they have
there...storm jib? We leave a 150 Genoa on her roller furler, but don't
be impressed. It's so close from the mast to the bow a 150 Genoa isn't a
very big sail on this boat. You can see some of the many winches on the
mainmast. This is my favorite cruising boat of all I've been to sea on.
She's no race boat but you sit so deep in the cockpit you can just see
over the coaming and the ride is great in 6-8' seas with her hauling ass
as others are shortening up to weather it out. She's a real ocean
vessel.

http://www.moeck-yachtagentur.de/img...sharki_1_g.jpg
Here's one with our usual Genoa hanked on. The big, crank-adjustable-
jack mainmast backstay you see here is our HF antenna. I added another
cable to it and put two insulators in the triattic stay up top fed in the
middle of the triattic for a capacitor hat, which really improves
radiation below 7 Mhz, the backstay's natural resonant frequency. The
Icom AT-130 tuner for the M802 is bolted to the top of the aft deckhouse
just aft of the mizzen step and Cap'n Geoffrey and I compromised by
building a whiteboard table over it to hold the drinks of the folks in
folding seats sitting on the deckhouse on either side of the mizzen step
to put their bloody mary's into...(c; He tolerates my stainless feed
wire and the ground strap running down to the Perkins block under the
cockpit sole, the whole thing of which is a huge hatch to get into the
engine room.

Hey, we even made the list in the 2006 Gulfstreamer from Daytona Beach to
Charleston!....:
http://www.halifaxsailing.org/gulfstreamer.htm
That IS unusual....(c;

We usually come lumbering in after they've all packed up and gone
home.....sometimes on MONDAY!....(c; We pray it's ROUGH so we'll have
some POWER!

Larry
--
VIRUS ALERT! VISTA has been released!
NOONE will be spared!

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Rosalie B. wrote in
:

We do have harnesses and jacklines, and we wear PFDs all the time when
underway (unless we are off watch asleep, when it is quite easy to
hand). That is Bob's rule for anyone on our boat. (He also makes me
wear shoes on deck.) Bob always clips onto the jacklines whenever the
weather is at all bumpy.



Us, too. Sospenders anchored to the jacklines at all times.

Larry
--
VIRUS ALERT! VISTA has been released!
NOONE will be spared!

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Jere Lull wrote in news:jerelull-6F5333.19110312022007
@news.bellatlantic.net:

Doesn't have to be so dramatic. Every once in a while, I simply announce
I'm taking a nap and let her carry on however she wants to.



But, I'd bet you DON'T do that in the conditions I've set for the test...

On a nice day the Amel will sail itself all day if you want to go in one
direction. My test specs are in NASTY weather when you'd break that leg.

Larry
--
VIRUS ALERT! VISTA has been released!
NOONE will be spared!

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On Feb 12, 8:57 am, Larry wrote:
"Bob" wrote in news:1171246804.293314.187660
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

hot 21 yo girlfriend

If we had one of those, none of us would ever leave the slip and there'd
CERTAINLY be no schedule.....(c;
Larry
--
VIRUS ALERT! VISTA has been released!
NOONE will be spared!

Hi All:

Sorry to get your interest up. Yes, she was 21 and way hot. A lanky 6'
00", big brown eyes..........................

But that was 24 years ago. We were married 11 years til my party girl
kept on partying with a capital "P." We had one child and I ended up
raising our daughter. But all is well. Daughter got a full ride
scholarship playing volleyball at a NCAA D1 school. The one thing that
my ex did well was be tall. My daugher leveld off at 6' 02." Yea !$!$!
$!$.

For years I was counting down the years til she gradated from
highschool so I could return to full time water activities. She left
in early August. I can not belive how much I miss her. A real punch in
the gut. One day when she ws 3 yo an old geezer told me to love her
every second cause she'll be gone soon. I did not believe him. Now
that I am there I know what the old geezer was talking about. Some
things are learned only by experince.
BOb

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In article ,
Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:jerelull-6F5333.19110312022007
@news.bellatlantic.net:

Doesn't have to be so dramatic. Every once in a while, I simply announce
I'm taking a nap and let her carry on however she wants to.



But, I'd bet you DON'T do that in the conditions I've set for the test...

On a nice day the Amel will sail itself all day if you want to go in one
direction. My test specs are in NASTY weather when you'd break that leg.


I've found that because we drill fairly often in benign conditions, she
doesn't mind doing it. When the s..t hits the fan, she has always been
right there, anticipating my next move, and didn't get worried until the
flurry cleared.

Works for us. Making a big thing out of it doesn't.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's NEW Pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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Jere Lull wrote:

In article ,
Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:jerelull-6F5333.19110312022007
@news.bellatlantic.net:

Doesn't have to be so dramatic. Every once in a while, I simply announce
I'm taking a nap and let her carry on however she wants to.

But, I'd bet you DON'T do that in the conditions I've set for the test...

On a nice day the Amel will sail itself all day if you want to go in one
direction. My test specs are in NASTY weather when you'd break that leg.

I've found that because we drill fairly often in benign conditions, she
doesn't mind doing it. When the s..t hits the fan, she has always been
right there, anticipating my next move, and didn't get worried until the
flurry cleared.

Works for us. Making a big thing out of it doesn't.

If you did that test on me, Larry, I'd throw you overboard. I'm a
partner in this enterprise, not a student - not a test subject, and
not a midshipmen.