Catalina 250
the fellow will have a modern boat while you sail a dead design
dinosaur. I guess that's why we are first to cross the finish line so often. How often? There were very few built. Most people never heard of it. Catalina's of the same vintage have better value and are worth more. So do O'Days. Look it up. RB |
Catalina 250
How often? There were very few built. Most people never heard of it.
Catalina's of the same vintage have better value and are worth more. So do O'Days. Look it up.... Once again you prove that you have dyslexia. In my post I said we. I sais we were first to cross the finish line often. I can't account for other boats. I can tell you that 2 different Express 30s have been high point champions on the Chesapeak Bay 5 different times. The C&C 34XL or any other version of that boat have never won that award once. Suck it up dipwad. BTW many people don't race 1 design since any of the popular boats in their area may not fit their needs in other respects. Your such a putz. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
Catalina 250
Catalina's
of the same vintage have better value and are worth more. LOL................ Easy answer. That's because performance boat buyers are usually more savy. The same guy who buys Consumers report to determine what toaster to buy buys a Catalina or Hunter. The Catalina or Hunter arn't worth more their buyer just pays more. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
Catalina 250
I can tell you that 2 different Express 30s have been high point champions on
the Chesapeak Bay 5 different times. The C&C 34XL or any other version of that boat have never won that award once. Suck it up dipwad. Poor Loco. Sailing handicapped is a joke. Sail boat to boat, one design and maybe you prove something. I see more Catalina's winning in the USA than Express by a HUGE margin! RB |
Catalina 250
The Catalina or Hunter arn't worth
more their buyer just pays more. Which makes them worth more, dopey! Bwahahahaha! RB |
Catalina 250
The C&C 34XL or any other version of that
boat have never won that award once. Suck it up dipwad. Are you saying that the 34R is not a winning boat? Are you aware that the XL is that design outfitted to a cruisable version? Shall I link you to the hullform/spec comparison? I guess If I wanted to race, I'd buy a 34R. No thanks! Enjoy your ancient boat! You lose...AGAIN! RB |
Water ballast (WAS: Catalina 250)
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Catalina 250
Poor Loco. Sailing handicapped is a joke. Sail boat to boat, one design
and maybe you prove something. I see more Catalina's winning in the USA than Express by a HUGE margin!.. What a stupid comment. 80 Express 30s were made comparied to how many Catalinas? The other stupid part about your comment is if your seeing a bunch of Catalina wins it's because of the 27. Many people race the 27. I have NEVER seen a Catalina 30 on the race course except with the possible exception of some non spinnaker fun race. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
Catalina 250
Are you saying that the 34R is not a winning boat? Are you aware that the XL
is that design outfitted to a cruisable version? **** you don't even know anything about the boat your (?) buying. The XL stood for Extra Light. It was C&Cs attempt to combine some of the features of the R with features of the cruise model to make a better dual purpose boat. A race boat. I know the boat. Also I never said it wasn't a "winning" boat. Go back and read again. You always have to do that lately. I said it (in any version) has never won high point on the Chesapeak Bay. A tough feat to accomplish. But hey Express 30s have won the award 5 times and a 35 has won more than once. Maybe the 34R, XL or whatever - has been a winner in your little corner of the world. The Chesapeak is pretty competitive. Bring that thing down here. Oh that's right you only "race" people who don't know they are racing. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
Catalina 250
What a stupid comment. 80 Express 30s were made comparied to how many
Catalinas? 80 boats!!! Bwahahahahaha! So you bought a boat that can only race handicap, yet you "claim" it comes in first all the time, wins more races and so on! What a joke. I had no idea the boat had been such a failure. I have a lot of friends who race loco and do so year round. They ALL own boats that can race and do race one design. You just can't win! RB |
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