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Roger Long January 13th 07 04:40 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
Has anyone here that sails deepwater not read "Heavy Weather Sailing" by
Adlard Coles?

If so, you should search the used book web sites and stores until you turn
up a copy.

--
Roger Long


[email protected] January 13th 07 06:14 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
Has anyone here that sails deepwater not read "Heavy Weather Sailing"
by Adlard Coles?


That's an old book. How valid are it's assumptions today?
(Not putting down, just wondering).


Roger Long January 13th 07 06:47 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
wrote:

That's an old book. How valid are it's assumptions today?


I don't think the sea has changed very much but the boats have. I think
that modern hull and rudder configurations can be very seaworthy, probably
more than traditional types but only as long as the crew has the energy to
keep them moving with enough speed to provide control. When you have to
just crawl into your bunk and hang on, you are probably better off in
something like a Westsail.

It's not really a detailed "how to" book but good stories of actual
experiences. My copy is from about 1969 and I haven't seen any updated
versions. Good appendix on waves. More useful for mental preparation and
anticipation of what conditions could be like than outfitting and handling
but valuable for that. Some great photos of extreme sea states.

--
Roger Long


Howard January 13th 07 09:56 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
I got a copy a year to two ago. From the Introduction it sounds like
there have been some major changes, but I can't attest never having seen
the older editions. I think the changes were in the stories. They do
have an interesting chapter on sea anchors/drogues where they did some
rough testing.


Roger Long wrote:
wrote:

That's an old book. How valid are it's assumptions today?


I don't think the sea has changed very much but the boats have. I think
that modern hull and rudder configurations can be very seaworthy,
probably more than traditional types but only as long as the crew has
the energy to keep them moving with enough speed to provide control.
When you have to just crawl into your bunk and hang on, you are probably
better off in something like a Westsail.

It's not really a detailed "how to" book but good stories of actual
experiences. My copy is from about 1969 and I haven't seen any updated
versions. Good appendix on waves. More useful for mental preparation
and anticipation of what conditions could be like than outfitting and
handling but valuable for that. Some great photos of extreme sea states.


Larry January 14th 07 05:18 AM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
"Roger Long" wrote in news:45a90b83$0$27103
:

Has anyone here that sails deepwater not read "Heavy Weather Sailing" by
Adlard Coles?



I tried reading sailing books, but my head kept bangin' against the
bulkhead next to the commode and blurring my vision because of the damned
waves!....

Larry
--
Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called Earth.

NE Sailboat January 14th 07 11:15 AM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
Larry ,, only pictures in "head" area!

Especially seasonal: Miss June, July, August ............


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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Roger Long" wrote in news:45a90b83$0$27103
:

Has anyone here that sails deepwater not read "Heavy Weather Sailing" by
Adlard Coles?



I tried reading sailing books, but my head kept bangin' against the
bulkhead next to the commode and blurring my vision because of the damned
waves!....

Larry
--
Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called
Earth.




Larry January 14th 07 02:38 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:jhoqh.2187$q32.687
@trndny01:

Larry ,, only pictures in "head" area!

Especially seasonal: Miss June, July, August ............



When I sit at the helm wrapped with Lionheart, many times it is very hard
to see forward in that little space between the deck and the genoa to see
those damned toilet floats the crabbers leave over their traps. This is
not caused by the Zodiac or a clutter of sailing gear or unstowed
fenders. It is caused by the plethora of young, thong-clad females, who
are attracted to my English captain's grey beard and, of course, MONEY.
Some are tagging the captain's guests for their money. Some just seem to
show up for the free ride, and are always welcome aboard Lionheart,
unattached as it were.

Sitting there in the middle of my array of electronic instruments
studying our realtime situation, it is very hard to concentrate on the
next waypoint, some distance off, when one's OWN waypoint is merely a few
feet forward of the windscreen, her special perfume overcoming the smells
in the sea air by 15 decibels, as she lays on her back in front of me
gracefully swinging port and starboard in the swells.

No pictures are necessary in Lionheart's head, the only refuge one can
retire to for some respite from these intensely exciting visions that
make the various testosterones and adrenaline throb through one's
arteries, taxing a fading heart. Once the mind has cleared itself so one
can, once again, focus on the navigational problem at hand, one can
resume his duties to one's captain and relieve the current glossy-eyed
navigator-helmsman who has lost the battle with his biology.

The deck obstructions will be quite inebriated by Lionheart's mystique,
reputation and her extensive libations, later on, as the cruise nears her
slip. One simply has to wait, patiently, as the motion of her keel lulls
those young women into a sense of euphoria, their inhibitions rapidly
dropping like the water in the bilge when the pumps suddenly come
on.....Easy, easy, steady boy, your time approaches!

God I love it on that boat!.....(c;



Third Mate, Engineering....

[email protected] January 15th 07 07:44 AM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
That's an old book. How valid are it's assumptions today?

I don't think the sea has changed very much but the boats have.


I guess I was thinking Roger that tactics may have changed, too.
Different types of drogues, use of sea anchors, forereaching vs running
before or heaving to.

I have a copy from the mid 70's somewhere in storage. curious as to what
may have been updated.


Gordon Wedman January 15th 07 04:46 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Has anyone here that sails deepwater not read "Heavy Weather Sailing" by
Adlard Coles?

If so, you should search the used book web sites and stores until you turn
up a copy.

--
Roger Long


Looks like you can get the 1975 revised edition by Coles on Amazon for
$6.98. Lots available.
I think the major revision was done in 1999 by Peter Bruce. This shows a
price of $125.
Steve Dashew also has a book on storm tactics. Fairly expensive as well , I
think.



Larry January 15th 07 07:17 PM

Heavy Weather Sailing
 
"Gordon Wedman" wrote in news:WdOqh.157633$hn.38417
@edtnps82:

This shows a
price of $125.


Wow! What size boat comes in the box with the book?

Hey, if they can afford boat parts and Sospenders, they can afford to pay
$125 for a $10 book, right?

Larry
--
Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called Earth.


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