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KLC Lewis January 8th 07 04:05 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by all
that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and have
chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea claim me
during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.

--
Karin



Roger Long January 8th 07 04:16 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
Bravo, well said.

Some of us here, like me, would enjoy knowing more about your boat and
plans.

--
Roger Long


KLC Lewis January 8th 07 04:46 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Bravo, well said.

Some of us here, like me, would enjoy knowing more about your boat and
plans.

--
Roger Long


Oh, no real plans. Just putting it into the record. lol

My boat is a Rawson 30 ketch, built in 1963, called "Escapade." I'm her
second owner, original owner having died a few months before I bought her
from the OCC Sailing School in Newport Beach CA about 6 years ago. Moved
from Long Beach CA to the Green Bay WI area in 2003, now I sail Green Bay
and Lake Michigan, with an eye toward getting back into the salt some day.
Green Bay (the bay itself) develops exceptionally nasty short-period waves
with little provocation, which can make for some very hairy sailing
experiences. Even 15 knots can be challenging if it's blowing from the
northeast for very long. I do miss the Pacific rollers. Here it's all waves,
no swells.

But I've got lots of sailing destinations within easy reach -- islands,
coves and bays, nice protected anchorages and access to great cruising
grounds if I have the time to visit them. Planning to take a week in July
for a nice long sail up to Beaver Island, down the eastern shore of Lake
Michigan, then back to Marinette via the Sturgeon Bay canal.

Karin



NE Sailboat January 8th 07 05:41 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
I hope the guy who is nearby when you sink hasn't read this email posting.

Can you just see it; you are sinking, and just before the boat goes down
you get off a radio message to a sailboat nearby.

"mayday ,, I am just off your bow".

"Oh, is that you Karin"?

"Yes, yes, come and get me, I am about to go into the water".

"Have a nice swim; Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision"

Gurgle.. gurgle..

============

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by all
that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and have
chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea claim me
during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.

--
Karin




Wayne.B January 8th 07 06:06 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:05:07 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by all
that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and have
chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea claim me
during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.

--
Karin


That's all well and good until other people are called upon to put
their life on the line for a rescue.


KLC Lewis January 8th 07 06:10 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:Pmvoh.2504$312.2145@trndny02...
I hope the guy who is nearby when you sink hasn't read this email posting.

Can you just see it; you are sinking, and just before the boat goes down
you get off a radio message to a sailboat nearby.

"mayday ,, I am just off your bow".

"Oh, is that you Karin"?

"Yes, yes, come and get me, I am about to go into the water".

"Have a nice swim; Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision"

Gurgle.. gurgle..

============


Yup. So be it, Insh'Allah.

Karin



KLC Lewis January 8th 07 06:11 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:05:07 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by all
that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and have
chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea claim me
during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.

--
Karin


That's all well and good until other people are called upon to put
their life on the line for a rescue.


Thus my aversion to carrying an Epirb.



KLC Lewis January 8th 07 06:37 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:11:40 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

That just makes more work and danger for the rescuers who still will
be out there trying to locate you.

CWM


How about this: Until I am in such a condition and people ARE looking for
me, the point is moot.

Karin



KLC Lewis January 8th 07 06:53 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:37:54 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:11:40 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

That just makes more work and danger for the rescuers who still will
be out there trying to locate you.

CWM


How about this: Until I am in such a condition and people ARE looking for
me, the point is moot.

Karin


It's a stupid, selfish, and irresponsible thing to do for the reason I
mentioned.

CWM


And I consider it far more stupid, selfish and irresponsible to expect
others to put their own lives at risk to come to one's rescue when one has
made the decision to put one's life in danger. Particularly if that "one" is
me. So I'll make a deal with you: I insist that you do NOT come to my
rescue. End of problem.

Karin



KLC Lewis January 8th 07 09:06 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...

The problem is that you don't get to make this decision. They will be
coming to look for you, Epirb or not. Your wrong-headed plan only
serves to put others at greater risk.

CWM


I've already told them not to. If they do anyway, it's not my plan that put
them at risk, but their own. Please excuse me for being responsible for
myself.

Karin



scbafreak via BoatKB.com January 8th 07 09:35 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
But I've got lots of sailing destinations within easy reach -- islands,
coves and bays, nice protected anchorages and access to great cruising
grounds if I have the time to visit them. Planning to take a week in July
for a nice long sail up to Beaver Island, down the eastern shore of Lake
Michigan, then back to Marinette via the Sturgeon Bay canal.

Karin



Do you have any pics posted anywhere of the boat? Also do you think you will
have access tot he internet at times to be able to post updates on what is
happening out there? I'd like to know how the trip is going and what you are
doing to deal with any adverse conditions or anything really interesting you
might come across.

Bill

--
Message posted via BoatKB.com
http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cruising/200701/1


NE Sailboat January 8th 07 09:54 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
Karin,, that makes two of us... I would never want Charlie Morgan anywhere
near my boat. Being rescued by him would be worse than
than drowning. No way ,, I will take my chances with King Neptune.

But :: if Larry is cruising by with a boat load of ladies? Now,, I may
just go below and pull the plug ..

Getting rescued by Larry is a good career move.


===========
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:37:54 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:11:40 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

That just makes more work and danger for the rescuers who still will
be out there trying to locate you.

CWM

How about this: Until I am in such a condition and people ARE looking for
me, the point is moot.

Karin


It's a stupid, selfish, and irresponsible thing to do for the reason I
mentioned.

CWM


And I consider it far more stupid, selfish and irresponsible to expect
others to put their own lives at risk to come to one's rescue when one has
made the decision to put one's life in danger. Particularly if that "one"
is me. So I'll make a deal with you: I insist that you do NOT come to my
rescue. End of problem.

Karin




NE Sailboat January 8th 07 10:00 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
Karin,,, you must be a Republican. Charlie is obviously a Democrat.

In Charlie's world nobody takes responsibility for anything.

If you hear someone scream out to you from the helicopter "it takes a
village, we are here to save you" ..

That would be Charlie.


If you hear "got any naked women on board who need a rub down"

That is Larry.


If you call back "yes, I have the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders onboard and
they need help" and you see a guy with grey hair jump out of the helicopter,
and swimming toward your boat ..

That's me.

Don't worry though .............. I am not there to save you, I will have
my hands full with "my cheerleaders".


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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...

The problem is that you don't get to make this decision. They will be
coming to look for you, Epirb or not. Your wrong-headed plan only
serves to put others at greater risk.

CWM


I've already told them not to. If they do anyway, it's not my plan that
put them at risk, but their own. Please excuse me for being responsible
for myself.

Karin




KLC Lewis January 8th 07 10:00 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in message
news:6bfe72786636d@uwe...


Do you have any pics posted anywhere of the boat? Also do you think you
will
have access tot he internet at times to be able to post updates on what is
happening out there? I'd like to know how the trip is going and what you
are
doing to deal with any adverse conditions or anything really interesting
you
might come across.

Bill

--
Message posted via BoatKB.com
http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cruising/200701/1


Essie used to be featured prominently on the Rawson30 homepage
(www.rawson30.com) but the site is undergoing a makeover and the picture is
gone :-(

I intend to be reasonably out-of-touch during my summer sail, but we'll
mostly be hopping from anchorage to anchorage, and might stop at marinas a
night or two -- depends mostly on how my crew feels. But I'll take my camera
and get plenty of video and stills, Insh'Allah.

Karin



Larry January 8th 07 10:05 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by
all that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and
have chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea
claim me during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to
armchair skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.


that I am able to drive my 5.7L V-8 Chevy Caprice Classic 120mph on my trip
to Atlanta, let it be known by all that I am fully aware of the inherent
dangers of driving my Chevy at 120mph down Interstate 20 and have chosen to
drive that way with those dangers in mind. And should I crash into a tree
and die during that trip, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
drivers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My car, my life, my decision.



Same speech, same stupid idea involved, same outcome, same disregard for
international laws of the sea and state highway laws.


KLC Lewis January 8th 07 10:13 PM

Should it ever occur...
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...

that I am able to drive my 5.7L V-8 Chevy Caprice Classic 120mph on my
trip
to Atlanta, let it be known by all that I am fully aware of the inherent
dangers of driving my Chevy at 120mph down Interstate 20 and have chosen
to
drive that way with those dangers in mind. And should I crash into a tree
and die during that trip, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
drivers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My car, my life, my decision.



Same speech, same stupid idea involved, same outcome, same disregard for
international laws of the sea and state highway laws.


More power to you, Larry. :-D

Karin



krj January 8th 07 10:36 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
KLC Lewis wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
The problem is that you don't get to make this decision. They will be
coming to look for you, Epirb or not. Your wrong-headed plan only
serves to put others at greater risk.

CWM


I've already told them not to. If they do anyway, it's not my plan that put
them at risk, but their own. Please excuse me for being responsible for
myself.

Karin


Just don't tell anyone that you are leaving or where you are going then
you won't be missed and no one will come looking.

KLC Lewis January 9th 07 12:21 AM

Should it ever occur...
 

"krj" wrote in message
. ..

Just don't tell anyone that you are leaving or where you are going then
you won't be missed and no one will come looking.


That would certainly do it, and would give me the ultimate sense of freedom.
Americans, for the most part, don't want to be free. They want to be safe,
while being *told* that they're free.

Karin



Wayne.B January 9th 07 01:08 AM

Should it ever occur...
 
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:54:05 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

But :: if Larry is cruising by with a boat load of ladies? Now,, I may
just go below and pull the plug ..


In his dreams...


Don White January 9th 07 01:16 AM

Should it ever occur...
 

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:14zoh.3164$2D.2218@trndny07...
Karin,, that makes two of us... I would never want Charlie Morgan
anywhere near my boat. Being rescued by him would be worse than
than drowning. No way ,, I will take my chances with King Neptune.

But :: if Larry is cruising by with a boat load of ladies? Now,, I may
just go below and pull the plug ..

Getting rescued by Larry is a good career move.



Wonder if Larry ever has Carmen Electra out for a sail?
Anyone see her in that backless dress at the Detroit Auto Show?
My my!



cavelamb himself January 9th 07 01:26 AM

Should it ever occur...
 
KLC Lewis wrote:

"krj" wrote in message
. ..

Just don't tell anyone that you are leaving or where you are going then
you won't be missed and no one will come looking.



That would certainly do it, and would give me the ultimate sense of freedom.
Americans, for the most part, don't want to be free. They want to be safe,
while being *told* that they're free.

Karin



It didn't used to be that way.

But I can't argue with you about that now.

Sad, but too true.

Richard

Maynard G. Krebbs January 10th 07 03:50 AM

Should it ever occur...
 
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:21:09 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"krj" wrote in message
...

Just don't tell anyone that you are leaving or where you are going then
you won't be missed and no one will come looking.


That would certainly do it, and would give me the ultimate sense of freedom.
Americans, for the most part, don't want to be free. They want to be safe,
while being *told* that they're free.

Karin


Some Americans still want to be free. We call them "Outlaw Bikers"
unfortunatly.
Mark E. Williams

Peter Hendra January 10th 07 11:41 AM

Should it ever occur...
 
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:05:07 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by all
that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and have
chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea claim me
during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.


I agree with Karin.

I singlehanded from Spain to Trinidad earlier this year and am
returning to Trinidad from Sydney, Australia next month to complete my
circumnavigation back to New Zealand and Oz - solo, as my wife and son
returned to Sydney 2 years ago for his high schooling. I take the risk
and also the responsibility. It's freedom.

I actually am saving taxpayer dollars as my normal job is as a
technical project manager for telcos such as Vodafone. In 7 months of
working I have put on several kilos. If I stayed longer I would become
grossly overweight with the great lunches one has with one's
colleagues. The end result would be a heart attack and possibly an
expensive bypass operation as one of my younger friends has recently
experienced.

Thus, my returning to ocean cruising and solo sailing is actually
saving the taxpayer a lot of money as medical and hospital care and
expences are free here in the Antipodes. I am being more responsible
than my land-locked professional colleagues.

Further, I would far rather have my taxes spent on rescuing someone
who is pursuing their dream and providing a little inspiration to
others than spending it buying a small part of a bomb to obliviate
someone who has yet to understand that my system of government is the
only desirable one.

I have a Singaporean friend, Kho Swee Chiow whose occupation, funded
by business sponsorships is "Adventurer, Motivational Speaker"
He has, among other achievements, scaled Everest, the 7 Summits,
Shishhapangma and been to both poles.

His website is www.daretodream.com.sg He does what he does with the
sure knowledge that rescue would be virtually unavailable.

Good on you Karin, the world needs more less responsible people.

Peter
N.Z. yacht Herodotus

KLC Lewis January 10th 07 02:55 PM

Should it ever occur...
 
Here's to you, Peter. Good to know such people still exist in the world. :-)

Karin

"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:05:07 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

that I am able to set-off on my circumnavigation, let it be known by all
that I am fully aware of the inherent dangers of such a voyage and have
chosen to set sail with those dangers in mind. And should the Sea claim me
during that voyage, I have one and only one thing to say to armchair
skippers casting aspersions upon my good name and character:

Bite me. My boat, my life, my decision.


I agree with Karin.

I singlehanded from Spain to Trinidad earlier this year and am
returning to Trinidad from Sydney, Australia next month to complete my
circumnavigation back to New Zealand and Oz - solo, as my wife and son
returned to Sydney 2 years ago for his high schooling. I take the risk
and also the responsibility. It's freedom.

I actually am saving taxpayer dollars as my normal job is as a
technical project manager for telcos such as Vodafone. In 7 months of
working I have put on several kilos. If I stayed longer I would become
grossly overweight with the great lunches one has with one's
colleagues. The end result would be a heart attack and possibly an
expensive bypass operation as one of my younger friends has recently
experienced.

Thus, my returning to ocean cruising and solo sailing is actually
saving the taxpayer a lot of money as medical and hospital care and
expences are free here in the Antipodes. I am being more responsible
than my land-locked professional colleagues.

Further, I would far rather have my taxes spent on rescuing someone
who is pursuing their dream and providing a little inspiration to
others than spending it buying a small part of a bomb to obliviate
someone who has yet to understand that my system of government is the
only desirable one.

I have a Singaporean friend, Kho Swee Chiow whose occupation, funded
by business sponsorships is "Adventurer, Motivational Speaker"
He has, among other achievements, scaled Everest, the 7 Summits,
Shishhapangma and been to both poles.

His website is www.daretodream.com.sg He does what he does with the
sure knowledge that rescue would be virtually unavailable.

Good on you Karin, the world needs more less responsible people.

Peter
N.Z. yacht Herodotus





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