Used Charts
 

I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season: BBA
chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6 ( Norfolk to
Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and Delaware Bays); and region 3
(New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can purchase them
.... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine stores which deal in
used charts?

Finley Martin
Prince Edward Island, Canada

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:09:37 GMT, "finley martin"
wrote:

I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season: BBA
chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6 ( Norfolk to
Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and Delaware Bays); and region 3
(New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can purchase them
... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine stores which deal in
used charts?

You can get all of those charts in electronic form for free:

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/download.htm

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I have a fair assortment of charts and chartbooks of varying age and
condition for all those areas and since my wife and I are planning to head
up towards the Bras d'Or Lakes next season instead of another jaunt south,
perhaps we might do some swapping? I just this week got The Cruising Guide
to the Nova Scotia Coast and The Yachting Guide to the Alantic Coast of Nova
Scotia but am particularly interested in charts and additional local
information for the Nova Scotia, PEI and Bras d'Or region. If interested
please contact me off list at jsodell at gmaildotcom.

Regards,
Scott Odell
S/V Itchen; BCC #73

"finley martin" wrote in message
...
I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season: BBA
chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6 ( Norfolk
to
Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and Delaware Bays); and region
3
(New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can purchase them
... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine stores which deal in
used charts?

Finley Martin
Prince Edward Island, Canada

Used Charts
 

"finley martin" wrote:

I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season: BBA
chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6 ( Norfolk to
Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and Delaware Bays); and region 3
(New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can purchase them
... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine stores which deal in
used charts?

Instead of soliciting used and perhaps out-of-date charts, why don't
you just download the free up-to-date ones now made available by NOAA?

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krj wrote:
wrote:
"finley martin" wrote:

Maybe he, like me prefers paper charts.

You can also "Print" out the charts you download from the above site.
They are the most up to date charts around.

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wrote in :

Instead of soliciting used and perhaps out-of-date charts, why don't
you just download the free up-to-date ones now made available by NOAA?



Hmm.....maybe because he isn't allowed to download them to his proprietary,
locked up GPS plotter in the boat without paying some cartography company
$120/chart they got for free at taxpayer expense?

I think that's a valid reason....(c;



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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:14:39 -0500, Larry wrote:

Hmm.....maybe because he isn't allowed to download them to his proprietary,
locked up GPS plotter in the boat without paying some cartography company
$120/chart they got for free at taxpayer expense?

I think that's a valid reason....(c;

Not really.

You download them to an inexpensive laptop or two, and display and/or
print them with free or inexpensive software.

As we used to say in New York, free is a very good price.

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krj wrote:
....
You can also "Print" out the charts you download from the above site.
They are the most up to date charts around.

Well, I've made "flip" books of electronic charts and they are great as
a cockpit piloting aid. However, for the pencil navigator they have
some problems:

1) Having them printed full size will likely cost more than buying full
sized used charts.
2) Printing them less than full size makes them harder to read, harder
to work on and results in less accurate chart work.
3) Printers can introduce errors including distortions, skipped areas,
smudged areas and ghosting. Navigators using LORAN need to take
particular care.
4) Paper and ink quality are likely to be inferior and less water
resistant than government printed charts.
5) Printing at home takes time and if high quality paper, ink and
coatings are used can be expensive, too.

So, buying used charts makes a good deal of sense to me when new charts
are not in the budget or as a back-up to an electronic chart plotting
system.

-- Tom.

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:09:37 GMT, "finley martin"
wrote:

I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season: BBA
chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6 ( Norfolk to
Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and Delaware Bays); and region 3
(New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can purchase them
... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine stores which deal in
used charts?

Finley Martin
Prince Edward Island, Canada


What an interesting thread, thank you for the question.
--

Woodsy,
Off the Grid, Off the Road, Off my Rocker...

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:08:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:09:37 GMT, "finley martin"
wrote:

I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season: BBA
chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6 ( Norfolk to
Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and Delaware Bays); and region 3
(New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can purchase them
... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine stores which deal in
used charts?

You can get all of those charts in electronic form for free:

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/download.htm


Thanks, nice link!
Wow. 4 hours later, MsS+T in one monitor, chart navigator on another,
and Google earth on a third. The whole thing. Are there any more
charts available? Only 1018? Where is the rest of the world?
--

Woodsy,
Off the Grid, Off the Road, Off my Rocker...

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Wayne.B wrote in
:

Not really.

You download them to an inexpensive laptop or two, and display and/or
print them with free or inexpensive software.

As we used to say in New York, free is a very good price.




My point being someone needs write CHARTING software that interfaces these
free charts to PLOTTING, not just printing out.....

I've printed them and HAVE been successful to use them with the Yeoman
paper chart plotter board, however. Printing them big enough is a pain in
the ass, though. Cap'n Geoffrey has Maptech books for where we cruise
already preprogrammed for the Yeoman, so we use those. On the free charts,
you have to put 3 cardinal lat/long points into the Yeoman puck along a
right angle, then use those points to point the puck at and click to tell
the Yeoman computer This is A, This is B, This is C....then it's calibrated
to what you printed. You can store A,B and C and reuse them any time.

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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:46:28 -0500, Larry wrote:

I've printed them and HAVE been successful to use them with the Yeoman
paper chart plotter board, however.

What is the attraction of the Yeoman if you have a computer on board
and electronic charts?

I plot using the software, works fine.

Used Charts
 

Check out E-Bay for used charts. Also, check out Bellingham chart
printers if you're interested in saving money. They print charts in B/W
and in smaller sizes, for less than half what new paper charts cost.
http://www.tidesend.com/

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Woodsy wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:08:31 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:09:37 GMT, "finley martin"
wrote:

I am looking for some used charts fo next summer's sailing season:
BBA chart kits for region 7 (Florida east coast and keys); region 6
( Norfolk to Jacksonville, Fla.); region 4 ( Chesepeake and
Delaware Bays); and region 3 (New york, Nantucket, Cape May, NJ).

If anyone wants to part with theirs ... or knows where I can
purchase them ... I'd appreciate a reply. Are there retail marine
stores which deal in used charts?

You can get all of those charts in electronic form for free:

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/download.htm


Thanks, nice link!
Wow. 4 hours later, MsS+T in one monitor, chart navigator on another,
and Google earth on a third. The whole thing. Are there any more
charts available? Only 1018? Where is the rest of the world?

The rest of the world is still in the BD (before democracy) age. In the UK
we have vested interests which control the free access to what we taxpayers
have been paying for since George the Third. It's called Crown Copyright,
and if you are a US citizen, your War of Indepence freed you from this
drivel. You are very lucky, but NOAA can't overule foreign restrictive
practises such as this, more's the pity!



Dennis.

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Wayne.B wrote in
:

What is the attraction of the Yeoman if you have a computer on board
and electronic charts?

I plot using the software, works fine.


Make believe there's a hard drive crash and you lose it all....say 250
miles offshore. We use the Yeoman to plot our paper course and it's just
easier to use a full-size chart page to click waypoints and create routes
for the chart plotters, and computer, especially over long distances
where you have to zoom in, waypoint, zoom out, move, zoom in, waypoint,
etc. The puck makes it almost too easy.

It creates a permanent record of the trip on the velum overlay plotted
every hour. Picking up the pieces after and electronic catastrophy is
just getting the plotting board stuff out of the chart table and
unpacking the hand-held GPS. The handheld's GPS cable to the Yeoman is
tywrapped to the chart table bottom behind the Yeoman boards for such an
occasion. Just plug it in. If the Yeoman doesn't survive, the plot is
still done. The computer is not.

We were about 130 miles SSE of Charleston when one of the "real sailors",
who doesn't appreciate my electronic toys because he is afraid they will
make him look stupid, made a nasty comment about them, once too often. I
reached down through the hatch and pushed off the main electronics master
switch, which controls all DC to all instruments in the boat. It all
went dark. Cap'n Geoffrey looked at me and smirked. "I'm gonna take a
nap.", I told him. "Lemme know when he's really lost.", I said as I
headed to my beloved V-berth for some quality time. Mr "real sailor" and
his compass, sextant (it was cloudy, useless) and dead recon took over.
I kept a secret eye on him from my little GPS in my bunk. We were headed
for the Outer Banks of NC by morning. Cap'n Geoffrey just let him go on
navigating the vast ocean for a day in the dark. It was a good lesson
and noone has razzed me about the toys, since. When the offshore tower
lights didn't show up the next night, I pulled the switch back on and
replotted a course for Charleston Ship Channel to the NW....(c;

You might try it. Simulated a main battery short or flooding and see how
you do.

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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:55:23 -0500, Larry wrote:

You might try it. Simulated a main battery short or flooding and see how
you do.

I didn't have to try it. A lightening strike on a wavetop 100 yards
away provided all the "simulation" we needed. I navigated the last
300 miles into Bermuda on a handheld GPS. That was in 1994 when
handhelds were still a novelty and cost mucho dinero.

No big deal. I had stored and logged all of the critical waypoints in
advance.

You still haven't convinced me that paper charts are better for route
plotting either. I'd be willing to challenge anyone to a little
exercise where we both plot something like a ten legged course over
multiple charts; log the lat/lon of all the waypoints; compute range
and course for each leg; and calculate total distance.

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Wayne.B wrote in
:

I didn't have to try it. A lightening strike on a wavetop 100 yards
away provided all the "simulation" we needed.

Ouch! I bet that got the old adrenaline charged up for war!

Every time we get in a storm, I can't help but think how stupid I am
sitting here holding the grounded stainless wheel at the base of the 60
ft lightning rod just begging for a direct hit.

I still can't imagine we're so insignificant more lightning hits aren't
direct to the mast head....but it doesn't seem to happen much. I did
watch it split an unoccupied Catalina 27 in half in a thunderstorm at our
marina, one hot afternoon. The boat sank into the floating dock held up
by its lines, sinking the dock and almost the other boat tied to the same
finger pier. It was so fast there was no fire or smoke. It just blew
the bottom out of the hull and down she went.

Er, ah, we crawled down the dock really soon afterwards.....(c;

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foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
name of the beast, or the number of his name...