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JohnM December 20th 06 05:03 AM

Australian customs flaw
 
A report in Australia's "Cruising Helmsman" for Dec.
" An Australian couple will not be able to visit Australia in their own boat
during a circumnavigation without officially importing the boat - even
though the boat will not be staying in Australia.
Bob Edwards and wife Margaret bought their Nordhavn 46 in France and plan to
base or sell it in Europe after their circumnavigation but Australia will
not issue cruising permits to citizens - only visitors - so the only way
they can stop off home on their way around is to pay import duty and 10% GST
on the purchase price of the boat - tens of thousands of dollars....."
Governments just don't seem to be able to get it right - do they?




Larry December 22nd 06 03:54 AM

Australian customs flaw
 
"JohnM" wrote in
:

Australia will
not issue cruising permits to citizens - only visitors - so the only
way they can stop off home on their way around is to pay import duty
and 10% GST on the purchase price of the boat - tens of thousands of
dollars....." Governments just don't seem to be able to get it right -
do they?



Just more proof governments, worldwide, are run by investment
bankers....just like the good ol' USA and it's Federal Reserve Private Bank
that prints our fake money.....


Rich Hampel December 22nd 06 05:13 AM

Australian customs flaw
 
Disagree with you Larry.
You perhaps miss the universal point is that 'governments' only
consider that the 'purpose' of its citizens is to be a "prey species"
to increase their tax base. Doesnt matter is if its a 'democracy', or
a totalitarian regime ... its all the same worldwide.


In article , Larry
wrote:

"JohnM" wrote in
:

Australia will
not issue cruising permits to citizens - only visitors - so the only
way they can stop off home on their way around is to pay import duty
and 10% GST on the purchase price of the boat - tens of thousands of
dollars....." Governments just don't seem to be able to get it right -
do they?



Just more proof governments, worldwide, are run by investment
bankers....just like the good ol' USA and it's Federal Reserve Private Bank
that prints our fake money.....


Ann-Marie December 22nd 06 05:17 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
We solved the problem by getting dual citizenship. Now if we get to
Australia we can use our USA passports.

Their main concern is residents attempting to import a boat and avoid
import taxes - and thereby support the local boat industry. At one
time - perhaps still - you had to put up a cash bond for the import
duties (up to 100% of value) that was forfeit if you didn't exit the
country with the boat within the time limit - 12 months?. This was a
while ago, things may have improved.


Larry December 22nd 06 07:43 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
Rich Hampel wrote in news:221220060012344423%RhmpL33
@nospam.net:

Disagree with you Larry.
You perhaps miss the universal point is that 'governments' only
consider that the 'purpose' of its citizens is to be a "prey species"
to increase their tax base. Doesnt matter is if its a 'democracy', or
a totalitarian regime ... its all the same worldwide.



Over on alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries on your usenet server, you
may still find a recent posting of "America - Freedom to Fascism" by
Aaron Russo, a Hollywood film producer who made movies like "The Rose"
and "Trading Places". It's in two CD-sized avi files in DivX format.
Play it with VLC from www.videolan.org if you don't have a divx codec.

Russo does all the footwork and goes straight after the IRS, the Federal
Income Tax (which isn't legal and isn't a law), and finds disturbing
information about the world bankers who took over the government in 1913
with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act by a quickie little vote
during Christmas vacation on a voice vote. (The movie of it is in the
film.)

In the USA, the income tax, unlawfully paid by workers on their wages and
labor, goes straight to these international bankers who OWN the Federal
Reserve Corporation, which is about as "Federal" as Federal Express. The
government borrows money from the Fed, and income tax extracted from
wages by force, pays the interest.

Watch the movie. It's not some nutcase film. Russo goes straight to the
source.....

Governments across the planet, including Australia, have been similarly
infiltrated and have lost control to the bankers. I'm sure if someone
researched, as Russo does, this same issue in Australia, he'd find the
story basically the same.


Larry December 22nd 06 07:44 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
"Ann-Marie" wrote in news:1166807821.485273.32600
@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

support the local boat industry


Isn't "free trade" wonderful?


Roger Long December 22nd 06 08:48 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
Funny, I just heard a quote today by Abraham Lincoln:

"I have the South in front of me and the bankers behind me and I fear the
bankers more."

--
Roger Long


Don White December 22nd 06 10:26 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
Roger Long wrote:
Funny, I just heard a quote today by Abraham Lincoln:

"I have the South in front of me and the bankers behind me and I fear
the bankers more."



Maybe Larry isn't as crazy as people think.

KLC Lewis December 22nd 06 11:13 PM

Australian customs flaw
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Roger Long wrote:
Funny, I just heard a quote today by Abraham Lincoln:

"I have the South in front of me and the bankers behind me and I fear the
bankers more."



Maybe Larry isn't as crazy as people think.


Oh, I don't think he's crazy at all. The problem is that he's mostly right,
but there's not a bloody thing he can do about it without going to prison.
Then he'll still not have done anything about it.

Karin



Larry December 23rd 06 05:29 AM

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in news:pdSdnTVyR4cy-
:

Then he'll still not have done anything about it.

Karin



I've already done something. I've informed and gotten many started talking
about it, who were not previously. Information, as Aaron Russo has done
with his film, is most dangerous to the shadow government....

At some point, as you need a wheelbarrow to buy simple foods to carry the
worthless paper money in, the stupid public will pull its collective head
out of the sand and the long-delayed cycle of revolution will repeat
itself. Government is working very hard to prepare, with HAARP weapon
research and chemical distribution systems to put the public into a trance
state to control them.

Of course, there'd be nothing to stop them from merely adding more
circuitry to the implanted RFID chips planned for mandatory distribution.
We'll all obey if our brains explode on command from the RFID system, won't
we? Humans are professional survivalists.....

(Go watch the old scifi movie "Logan's Run". The author, like George
Orwell, only had the DATE wrong for its implementation.)


Peter HK December 23rd 06 09:19 AM

Australian customs flaw
 

"Larry" wrote in message

At some point, as you need a wheelbarrow to buy simple foods to carry the
worthless paper money in, the stupid public will pull its collective head
out of the sand and the long-delayed cycle of revolution will repeat
itself. Government is working very hard to prepare, with HAARP weapon
research and chemical distribution systems to put the public into a trance
state to control them.

Of course, there'd be nothing to stop them from merely adding more
circuitry to the implanted RFID chips planned for mandatory distribution.
We'll all obey if our brains explode on command from the RFID system, won't
we? Humans are professional survivalists.....

(Go watch the old scifi movie "Logan's Run". The author, like George
Orwell, only had the DATE wrong for its implementation.)


Hey Larry

You need to join
http://www.vhemt.org/aboutvhemt.htm

Actually, I think I do too ;-)

Peter HK

Larry December 23rd 06 09:56 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
"Peter HK" wrote in news:tw6jh.12176$HU.9860@news-
server.bigpond.net.au:

http://www.vhemt.org/aboutvhemt.htm


Go read the pointer from this site:
http://www.rehydrate.org/facts/ten_facts.htm

Now, define "child abuse" and "child neglect" once again, just for
yourself.

Having watched two parents starve themselves to death to end the medical
profession's cash cows, like Parkinson's Disease my mother had for almost
19 years, I'm an avid advocate of voluntary euthanasia for anyone who wants
it, the ability to die quickly in dignity, not slowly to make doctors
richer and to allow religious nuts to "suffer for Jesus", as they feel
everyone should "die on the cross".

In both our countries we don't have to look far to find starving children
or incurable adults who would choose euthanasia, given the choice without
the religious guilt trip.

We're too busy preparing for the next war to increase profits of the banker
class.


JohnM December 26th 06 05:52 AM

Australian customs flaw
 
I don't believe that option applies now. Rather than replace it with
something sensible they just deleted it, hardly an improvement. At least
while that applied you would get your money back if you left within the time
limit.

"Ann-Marie" wrote in message
ps.com...
We solved the problem by getting dual citizenship. Now if we get to
Australia we can use our USA passports.

Their main concern is residents attempting to import a boat and avoid
import taxes - and thereby support the local boat industry. At one
time - perhaps still - you had to put up a cash bond for the import
duties (up to 100% of value) that was forfeit if you didn't exit the
country with the boat within the time limit - 12 months?. This was a
while ago, things may have improved.




[email protected] December 28th 06 04:55 PM

Australian customs flaw
 

JohnM wrote:
A report in Australia's "Cruising Helmsman" for Dec.
" An Australian couple will not be able to visit Australia in their own boat
during a circumnavigation without officially importing the boat - even
though the boat will not be staying in Australia.
Bob Edwards and wife Margaret bought their Nordhavn 46 in France and plan to
base or sell it in Europe after their circumnavigation but Australia will
not issue cruising permits to citizens - only visitors - so the only way
they can stop off home on their way around is to pay import duty and 10% GST
on the purchase price of the boat - tens of thousands of dollars....."
Governments just don't seem to be able to get it right - do they?


A similar example would be the scenario where Canadian residents cannot
bring US rented cars into Canada, on the grounds that Canadians taxes
and duties have not been paid on those cars. A Canadian resident from
Halifax, Nova Scotia might be visiting Seattle, Washington, 5000 km
away in the western US. If he decided to rent a car in the US and make
a two hour drive to Vancouver, Briitsh Columbia, he would be stopped at
the border by Canada Customs and told that he couldn't bring that car
in with him.


Roger Long December 28th 06 06:24 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
wrote:

A similar example would be the scenario where Canadian residents
cannot bring US rented cars into Canada, .....


I thought it was only the U.S. that did things this stupid.

--
Roger Long

Larry December 28th 06 10:13 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
"Roger Long" wrote in news:45940bf0$0$27061
:

wrote:

A similar example would be the scenario where Canadian residents
cannot bring US rented cars into Canada, .....


I thought it was only the U.S. that did things this stupid.


This will change, soon, because Canada-US-Mexico will soon become one big
country under an agreement the three presidents recently signed to make
it happen. I forget what the title of it was but it was done pretty
quietly to hold down the nationalists rioting.

Quebec, of course, will immediately declare itself a separate
planet....if we pay them, that is.

--
http://www.epic.org/privacy/rfid/verichip.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeriChip
http://www.verichipcorp.com/
Tracked like a dog, every license/product/tax.
Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their
foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
name of the beast, or the number of his name...


Don White December 28th 06 10:54 PM

Australian customs flaw
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...


This will change, soon, because Canada-US-Mexico will soon become one big
country under an agreement the three presidents recently signed to make
it happen. I forget what the title of it was but it was done pretty
quietly to hold down the nationalists rioting.

Quebec, of course, will immediately declare itself a separate
planet....if we pay them, that is.

--



Say what?
We don't have a president.so I guess that leaves us out.
Secondly, they'd have to pry our independent country from my cold dead
fingers.



Larry December 29th 06 04:04 AM

Australian customs flaw
 
"Don White" wrote in news:mWXkh.38183$cz.561997
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Say what?
We don't have a president.so I guess that leaves us out.
Secondly, they'd have to pry our independent country from my cold dead
fingers.



Sorry about the PM like that....oops.

I was sorta hoping to spend summers at Possum Lodge, myself...(c;

--
http://www.epic.org/privacy/rfid/verichip.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeriChip
http://www.verichipcorp.com/
Tracked like a dog, every license/product/tax.
Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their
foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
name of the beast, or the number of his name...


Jack Dale December 29th 06 04:25 AM

Australian customs flaw
 
On 28 Dec 2006 08:55:18 -0800, wrote:



A similar example would be the scenario where Canadian residents cannot
bring US rented cars into Canada, on the grounds that Canadians taxes
and duties have not been paid on those cars. A Canadian resident from
Halifax, Nova Scotia might be visiting Seattle, Washington, 5000 km
away in the western US. If he decided to rent a car in the US and make
a two hour drive to Vancouver, Briitsh Columbia, he would be stopped at
the border by Canada Customs and told that he couldn't bring that car
in with him.



As a Canadian, I may not charter a sailboat in Anacortes (Washington)
and bring it into the Gulf Islands (British Columbia). If I owned a
US registered boat, I may not bring it into Canada.

Jack

_________________________________________
Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
_________________________________________

Don White December 29th 06 04:26 AM

Australian customs flaw
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Don White" wrote in news:mWXkh.38183$cz.561997
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Say what?
We don't have a president.so I guess that leaves us out.
Secondly, they'd have to pry our independent country from my cold dead
fingers.



Sorry about the PM like that....oops.

I was sorta hoping to spend summers at Possum Lodge, myself...(c;

--


Well..don't let that stop you!
You'd fit right in with that Red/Green character and his buddies.



Larry December 29th 06 01:21 PM

Australian customs flaw
 
"Don White" wrote in news:BN0lh.38293$cz.563557
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Well..don't let that stop you!
You'd fit right in with that Red/Green character and his buddies.



A little piece of the Smith fortune would be nice...(c;

I've collected most all the shows, from the earliest primitive attempts
to the polished, great comedy show it has become.....

The CBC biography of him on his houseboat and his life is also a great
watch. He sure got some good breaks at the right time....

--
http://www.epic.org/privacy/rfid/verichip.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeriChip
http://www.verichipcorp.com/
Tracked like a dog, every license/product/tax.
Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their
foreheads:
17 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
name of the beast, or the number of his name...



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