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Ansley W. Sawyer December 28th 06 12:54 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
Wayne,

Have you looked at the Inscape Data Corp CB54E?

I am considering it for the top of my mast.

Tell me what you think.

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem



Bill Kearney December 28th 06 03:02 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
- I don't believe they are weather proof.

Weatherproof and not working is not a solution. There are any number of
ways to put something into a box. But to that end, I put my WRT54G in the
radar arch last spring. As of winter it's shown no signs whatsoever of
corrosion.

- I'm pretty sure they are not high power ( 50 mw )


You are incorrect. It's adjustable. But high-power does not mean better
functionality. This is a very common misconception.

- Do no directly support Power Over Ethernet (POE)


Again, if it doesn't work, what's the point. POE isn't all it's cracked up
to be if you're not using effective gauge wire. Wire that's too thin will
cause voltage drop.

So although they can potentially do the job, they are not exactly
ideal for mounting up the mast in an extended range application.


If you want it to work then building a box or running wire is a trivial fix.


Bill Kearney December 28th 06 03:03 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
YES, but if Skip is attempting to access (port 80 HTTP) an IP address
LOCAL TO HIS ONBOARD LAN, *HOW* is the router at the hotspot
intercepting it? It shouldn't have any interest in any local addresses
on the LAN side of Skip's bridge. You obviously have a better than
obvious grasp of what's going on so can you provide an explanation or
suggest the next troubleshooting step Skip should try?


Skip's networking has been fraught with screw ups, largely borne of his own
failure to actually pay attention to, and use, the advice a number of
networking experts have offered. Here an in alt.internet.wireless.

My advice then, and now, continues to be "get the right gear". And stop
wasting his and everyone else's time.


Wayne.B December 28th 06 03:18 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 07:54:26 -0500, "Ansley W. Sawyer"
wrote:

Have you looked at the Inscape Data Corp CB54E?

I am considering it for the top of my mast.


I looked at the specs and it seems interesting but I have not yet
tried one or heard of any first hand reports.

The key with all of these ethernet units is the quality of the
internal firmware which performs the network scan function and allows
you to select/configure an access point. It is especially important
that you can select by MAC address in addition to SSID because there
are a lot of duplicate SSIDs in some harbors.


Wayne.B December 28th 06 08:42 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:02:10 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

WRT54G


Bill, does the firmware in the WRT54G allow selection of an access
point by MAC address in addition to SSID?


Capt. JG December 28th 06 08:51 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:02:10 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

WRT54G


Bill, does the firmware in the WRT54G allow selection of an access
point by MAC address in addition to SSID?



The Wireless Mac Filter section of the router has the following options:

Prevent PCs listed from accessing the wireless.
Permit only PCs listed to access the wireless network.

And, it gives you the ability to edit the MAC filter list.

Here's the text of the help screen...

The Wireless MAC Filters feature allows you to control which
wireless-equipped PCs may or may not communicate with the Router's depending
on their MAC addresses. To disable the Wireless MAC Filters feature, keep
the default setting, Disable. To set up a filter, click Enable, and follow
these instructions:

1. If you want to block specific wireless-equipped PCs from communicating
with the Router, then keep the default setting, Prevent PCs listed from
accessing the wireless network. If you want to allow specific
wireless-equipped PCs to communicate with the Router, then click the radio
button next to Permit only PCs listed to access the wireless network.

2. Click the Edit MAC Filter List button. Enter the appropriate MAC
addresses into the MAC fields.

Note: For each MAC field, the MAC address should be entered in this format:
xxxxxxxxxxxx (the x's represent the actual characters of the MAC address).

3. Click the Save Settings button to save your changes. Click the Cancel
Changes button to cancel your unsaved changes. Click the Close button to
return to the Advanced Wireless screen without saving changes.

Not sure if that answered your question.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wayne.B December 28th 06 10:49 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:51:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Not sure if that answered your question.


Does the same functionality apply in "bridge" mode as opposed to
"access point" mode?

Most of the MAC filter logic that I've seen is to keep unwanted guests
out of your wireless network. The issue here is how to keep your
bridge from associating with unwanted access points.


Capt. JG December 28th 06 11:13 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:51:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Not sure if that answered your question.


Does the same functionality apply in "bridge" mode as opposed to
"access point" mode?

Most of the MAC filter logic that I've seen is to keep unwanted guests
out of your wireless network. The issue here is how to keep your
bridge from associating with unwanted access points.



I don't know.. you could try looking for this on the web.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




You December 29th 06 07:12 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
In article ,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:02:10 -0500, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

WRT54G


Bill, does the firmware in the WRT54G allow selection of an access
point by MAC address in addition to SSID?



The Wireless Mac Filter section of the router has the following options:

Prevent PCs listed from accessing the wireless.
Permit only PCs listed to access the wireless network.

And, it gives you the ability to edit the MAC filter list.

Here's the text of the help screen...

The Wireless MAC Filters feature allows you to control which
wireless-equipped PCs may or may not communicate with the Router's depending
on their MAC addresses. To disable the Wireless MAC Filters feature, keep
the default setting, Disable. To set up a filter, click Enable, and follow
these instructions:

1. If you want to block specific wireless-equipped PCs from communicating
with the Router, then keep the default setting, Prevent PCs listed from
accessing the wireless network. If you want to allow specific
wireless-equipped PCs to communicate with the Router, then click the radio
button next to Permit only PCs listed to access the wireless network.

2. Click the Edit MAC Filter List button. Enter the appropriate MAC
addresses into the MAC fields.

Note: For each MAC field, the MAC address should be entered in this format:
xxxxxxxxxxxx (the x's represent the actual characters of the MAC address).

3. Click the Save Settings button to save your changes. Click the Cancel
Changes button to cancel your unsaved changes. Click the Close button to
return to the Advanced Wireless screen without saving changes.

Not sure if that answered your question.


But all these settings are on the LAN/Wireless side of the Router,
NOT the WAN side of the Router which is the side that needs to
communicate with the WiFi Access Point out in the WOLRD.......
When using this router as a BRIDGE, to bring WiFi onboard......

tlindly December 29th 06 10:48 PM

WiFi at Sea (technical, sorry)
 
Going back to the original question, Skip said:
"No amount of fiddling in the way I'd
become accustomed, which is to just type the URL of the bridge in my
browser, bringing up the setup pages, would do anything other than
bring a signup page to the pay site. I grumbled but the other sites we
had
been using were a bit less than stellar..."

Do you mean to say that when you type in the "URL" [192.168.1.100 or
something like that] of the bridge into your web browser, you get the
paysite signup page rather than the bridge's setup page?? If so,
you're
going to have to climb back up and push a reset button.

Or do you mean that you Did get into the bridge's setup pages, but
cannot
figure out how to deny the offending paysite provider?

tom
=-==
p.s. Nice pics! Tampa at christmas time?
p.p.s. I saw:
8 cranes abuilding;
7 gulls awinging;
6 slips aempty;
5...bosun's chair;safetyharness;halyardend;snapshackle Rings
4 stainless bolts;
3 copcars;
2 waterways;
and a partridge in a pear tree.
[video and imagination enhancing devices required for the last]



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