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Roger Long December 20th 06 07:15 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
I'm buying a Garmin 76Cx that takes the MicroSD preloaded chips. Any pro's,
cons, or opinons to buying the Canadian charts I'll need on CD vs chips?

I'll also be buying paper for backup and trip planning. I won't have a
laptop on the boat where I'll be using the GPS display and charts together
(no comments on that please, it's another issue altogether).

Any good reason in that scenario to go with the CD instead of the
convienience of just sticking a chips in?

--
Roger Long


[email protected] December 21st 06 12:59 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Roger

The only work of caution "sort of" is to make very sure you have loaded
all the charts you need onto the GPS. I have the same unit and found
that I had forgotten to load a couple of charts for our trip this
summer. I did have a laptop on moard so it was a simple mater to load
wat was missing.

Matt
P.S. Happy holidays everyone.


Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:15:28 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I'm buying a Garmin 76Cx that takes the MicroSD preloaded chips. Any pro's,
cons, or opinons to buying the Canadian charts I'll need on CD vs chips?

I'll also be buying paper for backup and trip planning. I won't have a
laptop on the boat where I'll be using the GPS display and charts together
(no comments on that please, it's another issue altogether).

Any good reason in that scenario to go with the CD instead of the
convienience of just sticking a chips in?


That unit comes with a BLANK card. The CD is used to load that card.
Buying a second card with maps preloaded will be less useful. The CD
bluecharts come with MapSource software, so you can use the charts on
your PC as well. Very handy for planning trips, or as a handy "charts
at your fingertips" when you are not on the boat.

CWM



NE Sailboat December 21st 06 04:02 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Captain Roger ,, your off to Canada? International man of mystery!

Are you planning on cruising the outside (Halifax) side? Where is your
destination?

I took a look for you and there is a store named binnacle.com ( look up with
google ) and they have charts of Canada waters.

In fact, they sell a book ..

CRUISING GUIDE TO THE N.S. COAST 2005 4th Ed.
Product ID #14365



Their number is: 1-800- 224-3937

=============================

tell us more of this big trip. is this in the planning , maybe, could be,
stage or have you decided? That sounds like a real adventure.

====


"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I'm buying a Garmin 76Cx that takes the MicroSD preloaded chips. Any
pro's, cons, or opinons to buying the Canadian charts I'll need on CD vs
chips?

I'll also be buying paper for backup and trip planning. I won't have a
laptop on the boat where I'll be using the GPS display and charts together
(no comments on that please, it's another issue altogether).

Any good reason in that scenario to go with the CD instead of the
convienience of just sticking a chips in?

--
Roger Long




Don White December 21st 06 05:46 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
NE Sailboat wrote:
Captain Roger ,, your off to Canada? International man of mystery!

Are you planning on cruising the outside (Halifax) side? Where is your
destination?

I took a look for you and there is a store named binnacle.com ( look up with
google ) and they have charts of Canada waters.

In fact, they sell a book ..

CRUISING GUIDE TO THE N.S. COAST 2005 4th Ed.
Product ID #14365



Their number is: 1-800- 224-3937

=============================

tell us more of this big trip. is this in the planning , maybe, could be,
stage or have you decided? That sounds like a real adventure.

====


"Roger Long" wrote in message
...

I'm buying a Garmin 76Cx that takes the MicroSD preloaded chips. Any
pro's, cons, or opinons to buying the Canadian charts I'll need on CD vs
chips?

I'll also be buying paper for backup and trip planning. I won't have a
laptop on the boat where I'll be using the GPS display and charts together
(no comments on that please, it's another issue altogether).

Any good reason in that scenario to go with the CD instead of the
convienience of just sticking a chips in?

--
Roger Long




If you arrange a visitor slip at the Royal Nova Scotia Yyacht Squadron
ot the Armdale Yacht Club, you could walk to the Binnacle and back.

Cap'n Ric December 22nd 06 01:19 AM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Roger,

I'll be leaving for Maine and Nova Scotia in late May. I have RayMarine
radar and chart plotters on board so I will update C-MAP's NT+ C-205 which
includes: FUNDY, NOVA SCOTIA, PEI & CAPE BRETON. I also have a hand help
personal GPS that I use in the car and out hiking. It is a Garmin Etrex
Legend CX that uses the micro chips. I have Garmin's Mapsource on my PC so
I got the charts/maps by download from Garmin on the Internet. I've loaded
two SD Micro chips. One with east coast nautical charts and one with east
coast maps with all detail including route scheduling. This way I just swap
chips depending on the use.

If anyone knows of a good Chart Book of Nova Scotia I'd certainly be
intersted. I already have the "Cruising Guide to the Nova Scotia Coast".

Take care.

Cap'n Ric
S/V Sezaneh
2003 Beneteau 473



NE Sailboat December 22nd 06 02:22 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Captain Roger ,, when are you leaving for the Canada tour, cruise? I got to
thinking last night ... ???? Maybe I will join up and form a fleet.

----------
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I'm buying a Garmin 76Cx that takes the MicroSD preloaded chips. Any
pro's, cons, or opinons to buying the Canadian charts I'll need on CD vs
chips?

I'll also be buying paper for backup and trip planning. I won't have a
laptop on the boat where I'll be using the GPS display and charts together
(no comments on that please, it's another issue altogether).

Any good reason in that scenario to go with the CD instead of the
convienience of just sticking a chips in?

--
Roger Long




Roger Long December 22nd 06 03:24 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
NE Sailboat wrote:
Captain Roger ,, when are you leaving for the Canada tour, cruise? I
got to thinking last night ... ???? Maybe I will join up and form a
fleet.


I don't do fleets; especially when I don't know someone's real name, boat
name, and only know the boat type because I stumbled across the "For Sale"
web listing.

As for joining up, I'm glad my E 32 can run away from a Bristol 32.

Happy Holiday though (really),

--
Roger Long


NE Sailboat December 22nd 06 03:38 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Roger ,, this reminds me of the famous scene in Butch Cassidy and the
Sundance Kid .. Newman keeps asking Redford .. "who are those guy" as they
are trailed ..

Next summer, as you are heading for Canada ,, look back ... see that sail
...

You will be asking "who is that guy" .


Happy Holiday ,, Merry Christmas ,, New Years, ,, etc etc.

Keep giving it to me.. I enjoy the abuse.


====================================
"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
NE Sailboat wrote:
Captain Roger ,, when are you leaving for the Canada tour, cruise? I
got to thinking last night ... ???? Maybe I will join up and form a
fleet.


I don't do fleets; especially when I don't know someone's real name, boat
name, and only know the boat type because I stumbled across the "For Sale"
web listing.

As for joining up, I'm glad my E 32 can run away from a Bristol 32.

Happy Holiday though (really),

--
Roger Long




Roger Long December 22nd 06 03:40 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
NE Sailboat wrote:

tell us more of this big trip.


Strange that one who keeps his name, boat name, and boat type so hidden
wants to know all the details of my life:)
It's just winter dreaming at this point because the extent of work and
family commitments for next summer are not determined yet. However, absent
the usual caveats such as health and asteroid strikes, plans for subsequent
years are as firm as they can be.

Quick tour of the high points of the Maine coast past Penobscot Bay

Bay of Fundy up to St. Johns and the St. Johns river.

Across to Nova Scotia and up to the Eastern Tip.

Leave boat for the winter or Bermuda to Charleston if we are able to get
back to Maine first.

West Coast of Newfoundland and some of the Labrador coast.

North, East, and South coasts of Newfoundland.

Prince Edward Island and St. Lawrence.

Iceland and Scotland? Why not?

--
Roger Long


NE Sailboat December 22nd 06 04:33 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Roger ,, lots of good tours, cruises listed.

I would pass on the Bay of Fundy though. The fog is a killer.

The area at the entrance of the St Lawrence River .. look up Yves Gélinas.
He is the sailor who sells the Capehorn Windvane.. at the web site below
is a written record of he and his gal pal on their way to Ireland. On
"JEAN-DU-SUD" , his famous Alberg 30!

http://www.capehorn.com/sections/facteur/mailman.htm


You sure do have some ambitious trips planned.
================================================== ============================

My dream trip, maybe next year ??? ... Off to the south. Follow the
ditch to Florida.

Governor's Harbour, Eleuthera, Bahamas. That is where I'm heading. Florida
to Bahama's, and Governor's Harbour.

{At some 300 years old, Governor's Harbour is the island's oldest
settlement, reportedly the landing place of the Eleutherian Adventurers. The
largest town on Eleuthera after Rock Sound, it lies midway along the
161km-long (100-mile) island; its airport is likely to be your gateway to
the island.

The town today has a population of about 1,500, with some bloodlines going
back to the original settlers, the Eleutherian Adventurers, and to the
Loyalists who followed some 135 years later. Many old homes line the streets
amid the bougainvillea and casuarina trees."}

Roger ,, Governor's Harbor, Eleuthera. Warm breeze, the water so clear it
is amazing. The friendliest people on earth. ...

I hope all your cruising dreams come true!



Me? Heading for the south, no more fog.



ps. my boat is slow. Yes, that is true. But I don't care. Slow and
steady.

Since I sail alone, going slow is an advantage. It gives me more time to
screw up!



=============



"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
NE Sailboat wrote:

tell us more of this big trip.


Strange that one who keeps his name, boat name, and boat type so hidden
wants to know all the details of my life:)
It's just winter dreaming at this point because the extent of work and
family commitments for next summer are not determined yet. However, absent
the usual caveats such as health and asteroid strikes, plans for
subsequent years are as firm as they can be.

Quick tour of the high points of the Maine coast past Penobscot Bay

Bay of Fundy up to St. Johns and the St. Johns river.

Across to Nova Scotia and up to the Eastern Tip.

Leave boat for the winter or Bermuda to Charleston if we are able to get
back to Maine first.

West Coast of Newfoundland and some of the Labrador coast.

North, East, and South coasts of Newfoundland.

Prince Edward Island and St. Lawrence.

Iceland and Scotland? Why not?

--
Roger Long




Wayne.B December 22nd 06 05:15 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:40:40 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Iceland and Scotland? Why not?


Cold.


Don White December 22nd 06 05:20 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Roger Long wrote:
NE Sailboat wrote:

tell us more of this big trip.



Strange that one who keeps his name, boat name, and boat type so hidden
wants to know all the details of my life:)
It's just winter dreaming at this point because the extent of work and
family commitments for next summer are not determined yet. However,
absent the usual caveats such as health and asteroid strikes, plans for
subsequent years are as firm as they can be.

Quick tour of the high points of the Maine coast past Penobscot Bay

Bay of Fundy up to St. Johns and the St. Johns river.

Across to Nova Scotia and up to the Eastern Tip.

Leave boat for the winter or Bermuda to Charleston if we are able to get
back to Maine first.

West Coast of Newfoundland and some of the Labrador coast.

North, East, and South coasts of Newfoundland.

Prince Edward Island and St. Lawrence.

Iceland and Scotland? Why not?


That's right...once you get all the way to Newfoundland's east coast,
you may as well keep going since you're already halfway there.

Wayne.B December 22nd 06 05:25 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:33:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:
Governor's Harbour, Eleuthera, Bahamas. That is where I'm heading. Florida
to Bahama's, and Governor's Harbour.

{At some 300 years old, Governor's Harbour is the island's oldest
settlement, reportedly the landing place of the Eleutherian Adventurers. The
largest town on Eleuthera after Rock Sound, it lies midway along the
161km-long (100-mile) island; its airport is likely to be your gateway to
the island.

The town today has a population of about 1,500, with some bloodlines going
back to the original settlers, the Eleutherian Adventurers, and to the
Loyalists who followed some 135 years later. Many old homes line the streets
amid the bougainvillea and casuarina trees."}

Roger ,, Governor's Harbor, Eleuthera. Warm breeze, the water so clear it
is amazing. The friendliest people on earth. ...


=============

Don't skip the Abacos, very nice also.




Wayne.B December 22nd 06 05:33 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:38:38 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Roger ,, this reminds me of the famous scene in Butch Cassidy and the
Sundance Kid .. Newman keeps asking Redford .. "who are those guy" as they
are trailed ..

Next summer, as you are heading for Canada ,, look back ... see that sail


If either of you hear the soothing rumble of a pair of Detroit 671s up
ahead, that will be me. Fifteen thousand pounds of static thrust can
be very useful for pulling off grounded sail boats. Make sure your
cleats are through bolted. I hate it when they go whizzing by...
:-)


NE Sailboat December 22nd 06 06:10 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Wayne ,,, that rumble .. does it sound like a GULP, and the sound of a cash
register TOGETHER?

============
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:38:38 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Roger ,, this reminds me of the famous scene in Butch Cassidy and the
Sundance Kid .. Newman keeps asking Redford .. "who are those guy" as
they
are trailed ..

Next summer, as you are heading for Canada ,, look back ... see that sail


If either of you hear the soothing rumble of a pair of Detroit 671s up
ahead, that will be me. Fifteen thousand pounds of static thrust can
be very useful for pulling off grounded sail boats. Make sure your
cleats are through bolted. I hate it when they go whizzing by...
:-)




Wayne.B December 22nd 06 06:50 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:10:59 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Wayne ,,, that rumble .. does it sound like a GULP, and the sound of a cash
register TOGETHER?


No, it sounds like two busses idling in a parking lot.

Money is only an issue when you don't have enough.

The answer to "not enough" is work.

Work is the curse of the sailing class.


Wayne.B December 22nd 06 06:53 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:20:20 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Iceland and Scotland? Why not?


That's right...once you get all the way to Newfoundland's east coast,
you may as well keep going since you're already halfway there.


Don't skip Greenland, great parties for visiting crew from what I've
been told.


NE Sailboat December 22nd 06 09:27 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Alas Wayne,, that is why I DON'T WORK!

LIFE IS WAY TOO SHORT FOR WORK.

==================================
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:10:59 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

Wayne ,,, that rumble .. does it sound like a GULP, and the sound of a
cash
register TOGETHER?


No, it sounds like two busses idling in a parking lot.

Money is only an issue when you don't have enough.

The answer to "not enough" is work.

Work is the curse of the sailing class.




Ansley W. Sawyer December 22nd 06 10:12 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Roger,

We are in Augusta and have been across to Nova Scotia as well as a couple of
trips up the Bay to Grand Manan etc. I would be happy to compare notes and
give you whatever info I have for your crossing.

Merry Christmas

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem
Camper Nicholson 39 ketch



Cap'n Ric December 23rd 06 12:01 AM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Gentlemen,

I'm leaving for Maine and Nova Scotia from Baltimore, Maryland or New York
City in late May. I'll be stopping in Camden, Maine at Wayfarer Marine for
them to install a larger watermaker then going up to Castine for the Fourth
of July. I'll leave from Castine around the 10th of July and go to the
Shelburne Yacht Club in Nova Scotia. I spent last summer in Maine.

I also don't do well in flotillas. They slow me down too much. I've got a
2003 Beneteau 473 with 45 foot of waterline. No offense but I believe I can
out run either of you gentlemen.

Good luck.

Regards,

Cap'n Ric
S/V Sezaneh
2003 Beneteau 473



NE Sailboat December 23rd 06 12:25 AM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Cap'n Ric ,, heck, you could out-swim me! I got her up to five knots
................ once.

===============================








"Cap'n Ric" wrote in message
news:Ql_ih.41$oo4.10@trndny09...
Gentlemen,

I'm leaving for Maine and Nova Scotia from Baltimore, Maryland or New York
City in late May. I'll be stopping in Camden, Maine at Wayfarer Marine
for them to install a larger watermaker then going up to Castine for the
Fourth of July. I'll leave from Castine around the 10th of July and go to
the Shelburne Yacht Club in Nova Scotia. I spent last summer in Maine.

I also don't do well in flotillas. They slow me down too much. I've got
a 2003 Beneteau 473 with 45 foot of waterline. No offense but I believe I
can out run either of you gentlemen.

Good luck.

Regards,

Cap'n Ric
S/V Sezaneh
2003 Beneteau 473




Ken Heaton December 23rd 06 02:53 PM

Blue Chart chip vs CD.
 
Comments inserted below:

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
NE Sailboat wrote:

tell us more of this big trip.


Strange that one who keeps his name, boat name, and boat type so hidden
wants to know all the details of my life:)
It's just winter dreaming at this point because the extent of work and
family commitments for next summer are not determined yet. However, absent
the usual caveats such as health and asteroid strikes, plans for
subsequent years are as firm as they can be.

Quick tour of the high points of the Maine coast past Penobscot Bay

Bay of Fundy up to St. Johns and the St. Johns river.

Across to Nova Scotia and up to the Eastern Tip.

Leave boat for the winter


I can probably help with this part if it comes to pass. There are several
small yacht clubs in Sydney Harbour, Dobson is probably your best bet for
winter storage. There are quite a few who sail this far and then store at
Dobson for the winter, some just leave their boat here for several years and
come to sail every summer. the Bras d'Or Lakes system is good for a week or
more (or a summer) of gunkholing.

http://www.dobsonyachtclub.ca/
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton at eastlink dot ca




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