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Roger Long December 6th 06 06:12 PM

Anyone have the Ferenc Mate book on the Westsail 32?
 
Has anyone out there got a copy of the Ferenc Mate book that has lines of
the Westsail 32 in it?

Buried in the thread on the boat below is a debate on the antecedents of the
hull lines which is a question that has always interested me. If someone
will email me an image of the Westsail lines (from any source actually) I'll
process them with the lines from the Atkin site and post something on mine
that permits direct comparison.

It's an interesting question since Atkin used Colin Archer's lines by simply
scaling them down. The question is whether Crealock simply modified them to
accommodate fiberglass construction or "improved" them in the process.

--
Roger Long


RW Salnick December 6th 06 06:19 PM

Anyone have the Ferenc Mate book on the Westsail 32?
 
Roger Long inscribed in red ink for all to know:
Has anyone out there got a copy of the Ferenc Mate book that has lines
of the Westsail 32 in it?

Buried in the thread on the boat below is a debate on the antecedents of
the hull lines which is a question that has always interested me. If
someone will email me an image of the Westsail lines (from any source
actually) I'll process them with the lines from the Atkin site and post
something on mine that permits direct comparison.

It's an interesting question since Atkin used Colin Archer's lines by
simply scaling them down. The question is whether Crealock simply
modified them to accommodate fiberglass construction or "improved" them
in the process.


Roger -

Is this the one titled "From a Bare Hull" ? If so, I have it...

bob

s/v Eolian
Seattle

Roger Long December 6th 06 06:48 PM

Anyone have the Ferenc Mate book on the Westsail 32?
 
RW Salnick wrote:

Is this the one titled "From a Bare Hull" ? If so, I have it...


I'm not sure. Does it have a lines plan of a Westsail 32 in it? If so, can
you send me a scan of it? Use the email address at this link:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Contact.htm

--
Roger Long


RW Salnick December 6th 06 07:01 PM

Anyone have the Ferenc Mate book on the Westsail 32?
 
Roger Long inscribed in red ink for all to know:
RW Salnick wrote:


Is this the one titled "From a Bare Hull" ? If so, I have it...


I'm not sure. Does it have a lines plan of a Westsail 32 in it? If so,
can you send me a scan of it? Use the email address at this link:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Contact.htm



I will check tonite

RW Salnick December 7th 06 03:12 PM

Anyone have the Ferenc Mate book on the Westsail 32?
 
Roger Long inscribed in red ink for all to know:
RW Salnick wrote:


Is this the one titled "From a Bare Hull" ? If so, I have it...


I'm not sure. Does it have a lines plan of a Westsail 32 in it? If so,
can you send me a scan of it? Use the email address at this link:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma/Contact.htm


Nope. Sorry Roger - there are elevation and plan views for the Westsail
32, but no lines in "From a Bare Hull".



bob

[email protected] December 9th 06 01:34 AM

Anyone have the Ferenc Mate book on the Westsail 32?
 
Roger:

The following is excerpt from a bio on Bill Crealock, found he

http://www.clipper-sailor.net/crealock.html

I haven't read the entire "Westsail 32" thread - sorry if this is
redundant, but seems to the point of your question.

MW +++

Around 1965 the Westsail saga began with a builder named Larry Kendall,
who came to Bill and asked if there was anything out there in the way
of a market for cruising boats. Bill thought Larry might be able to
sell "a dozen or so." Larry decided on the Atkin Thistle, a husky
32-foot double-ender with a flush deck, and began tooling. After years
of work, turmoil and bankruptcy, the plans and tooling were picked up
by Snyder and Lynn Vic, who named the boat Westsail and began serious
production. The flush deck of Atkin's original design found little
appeal, so a trunk cabin version modeled after another Atkins design
called Eric was created. Crealock drew the rig and some of the
interior, before long, many people credited him with the hull design as
well. "I did not touch the lines," he assures me. "We wanted to
keep the basic Atkin design." Thereafter, "Time" magazine ran a
lengthy piece on cruising as a lifestyle and one of the boats featured
was a Westsail. The corporation hit big time and talked to Bill about a
larger boat. This led to the Westsail 42 and 43 (identical hulls), one
of the first boats based on the input of potential buyers. "Strong"
was the operative word, and "overkill" best describes the hull
layup. Lookers loved to thump on the topsides at boat shows, and
salesmen eagerly showed core samples virtually inches thick. But after
a massive advertising campaign and a frenzy of building, the fast rise
led to a steady decline despite a string of reincarnations.



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