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Jack Erbes December 4th 06 04:25 PM

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krj wrote:
Rich Hampel wrote:

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.
Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.


Anything the EU or anybody else can do to Microsoft is welcome. Long
live Linux


Yeah, you'll think that is fine until the EU decides it needs to
standardize computers and does it without any regard for logic, what is
in use, what is or is not in the public domain, or anything else.

Imagine that the pencil necked geek that came up with this initiative is
on a Token Ring network and decides that Token Ring is what is best for
the EU and allows not other interface to the world.

I don't begrudge anyone the metric system, I understand it, can converse
in it fluently, and use it when and where I want or when it makes more
sense. But I also use the Imperial system and a number of other
standards that have come into common and widespread use over the years.

U.S. commerce has gone to providing markings in both systems and that
works for everybody. But to allow some anal retentive, my way or no
way, petty beaureaucrat ram something like this down the world's throat
simply does not make any sense.

Jack

--
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(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

KLC Lewis December 4th 06 04:32 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.


Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!


Sorry 'bout that. I would have sent advance warning, but I'm never all that
sure that others will find my sense of humor...humorous. ;-)



JoeSpareBedroom December 4th 06 04:34 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 4 Dec 2006 07:20:45 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


Rich Hampel wrote:
It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.


Yeah, all measuration in units of 10, just like our numbering system.
How could anything make less sense? Hmm, I guess you could have the
Imperial system, where an there are twelve inches in a foot, 3 feet in
a yard, 5280 feet in a mile which was derived from 8 furlongs.


Being an engineer, presumably with a math background, you should
appreciate that any system of ten sucks.

Base 12 is the only way to go. :)


If you could think straight for just a minute (which I doubt), you'd see the
beauty of 17.



Calif Bill December 4th 06 05:21 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:34:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On 4 Dec 2006 07:20:45 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


Rich Hampel wrote:
It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.

Yeah, all measuration in units of 10, just like our numbering system.
How could anything make less sense? Hmm, I guess you could have the
Imperial system, where an there are twelve inches in a foot, 3 feet in
a yard, 5280 feet in a mile which was derived from 8 furlongs.

Being an engineer, presumably with a math background, you should
appreciate that any system of ten sucks.

Base 12 is the only way to go. :)


If you could think straight for just a minute (which I doubt), you'd see
the
beauty of 17.


Seventeen sucks.

Twelve rules!!


11 rules. Was even a great Sci-fi story written about a culture with base
11, they took over the earth.



Calif Bill December 4th 06 05:25 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:32:09 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.

Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!


Sorry 'bout that. I would have sent advance warning, but I'm never all
that
sure that others will find my sense of humor...humorous. ;-)


Sounds like we share a similar trait. :)


Maybe the 1/2 life of Pepsi? Easier to measure something with a less than
25k year 1/2 life. Actualy do not recall what Cesium 1/2 life is, but
Plutonium is 25K and the way some rogue nations threaten the world, may be
more common than we desire.



Bob December 4th 06 05:26 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Twelve rules!!


Help me out. how do you count in base 12?

I can do it up to nine but then what??

Oh maybe base 6 twice?

1,2,3,4,5,10,11,12,13,14,15,200
is that the way it works. My mind hurts.


Dan Best December 4th 06 06:05 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Base 12 is the only way to go. :)


I respectfully disagree. Base 16, hexadecimal is the logical way to go.

Calif Bill December 4th 06 06:25 PM

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"Bob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Twelve rules!!


Help me out. how do you count in base 12?

I can do it up to nine but then what??

Oh maybe base 6 twice?

1,2,3,4,5,10,11,12,13,14,15,200
is that the way it works. My mind hurts.


Substitute A & B for 10 and 11.



Tim December 4th 06 07:37 PM

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Like the Marshall amps in the movie "Spinal Tap" . instead of having
knobs that turned up to "10" like everyone else's, Marshalls crank up
to "11" .... Something like "If it can be done, these guys can do it"


Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:34:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On 4 Dec 2006 07:20:45 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


Rich Hampel wrote:
It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.

Yeah, all measuration in units of 10, just like our numbering system.
How could anything make less sense? Hmm, I guess you could have the
Imperial system, where an there are twelve inches in a foot, 3 feet in
a yard, 5280 feet in a mile which was derived from 8 furlongs.

Being an engineer, presumably with a math background, you should
appreciate that any system of ten sucks.

Base 12 is the only way to go. :)

If you could think straight for just a minute (which I doubt), you'd see
the
beauty of 17.


Seventeen sucks.

Twelve rules!!


11 rules. Was even a great Sci-fi story written about a culture with base
11, they took over the earth.



withheld December 4th 06 09:25 PM

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Has everyone forgotten that the statndard inch is actually
1/5e8 of the earth's diameter pole to pole?

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

I'll bet it really galls the ISO that the Earth's circumference doesn't
fit nicely into the metric system.

40,066 KM divided by 100 degrees divided by 100 minutes divided by 100
seconds = 40.066 meters. A messy little number that just doesn't fit.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.




All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.



withheld December 4th 06 09:28 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:34:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..

On 4 Dec 2006 07:20:45 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


Rich Hampel wrote:

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.

Yeah, all measuration in units of 10, just like our numbering system.
How could anything make less sense? Hmm, I guess you could have the
Imperial system, where an there are twelve inches in a foot, 3 feet in
a yard, 5280 feet in a mile which was derived from 8 furlongs.

Being an engineer, presumably with a math background, you should
appreciate that any system of ten sucks.

Base 12 is the only way to go. :)


If you could think straight for just a minute (which I doubt), you'd see the
beauty of 17.



Seventeen sucks.

Twelve rules!!


Your both wasting everybody's time. 16(F) aka hexadeciaml is the only
thing that makes sense any more . . .
Anything else is just a useless waste of spaces that can be filled it
1's and 0's.

chuck December 4th 06 10:17 PM

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withheld wrote:
Has everyone forgotten that the statndard inch is actually
1/5e8 of the earth's diameter pole to pole?

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

I'll bet it really galls the ISO that the Earth's circumference
doesn't fit nicely into the metric system.

40,066 KM divided by 100 degrees divided by 100 minutes divided by
100 seconds = 40.066 meters. A messy little number that just doesn't
fit.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or
lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.



All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.


May I suggest that the following link will illuminate this thread with
particular emphasis on navigational units?

http://www.celticnz.co.nz/VikingNavigation.htm
Viking Navigation and Ancient Swedish Measurements

Chuck

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KLC Lewis December 4th 06 10:36 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:17:44 -0500, chuck wrote:

withheld wrote:
Has everyone forgotten that the statndard inch is actually
1/5e8 of the earth's diameter pole to pole?

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

I'll bet it really galls the ISO that the Earth's circumference
doesn't fit nicely into the metric system.

40,066 KM divided by 100 degrees divided by 100 minutes divided by
100 seconds = 40.066 meters. A messy little number that just doesn't
fit.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or
lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined
the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow
the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.



All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.


May I suggest that the following link will illuminate this thread with
particular emphasis on navigational units?

http://www.celticnz.co.nz/VikingNavigation.htm
Viking Navigation and Ancient Swedish Measurements


Oh please.

The Vikings discovered America. The Vikings discovered Central
America. The Vikings discovered South America. The Vikings
discovered Hawaii. The Vikings discovered New Zealand. The Vikings
discovered Minnesota and the Chinese are really funny looking Vikings.

What's next - the Vikings landed on the Moon and established a colony
on Mars?

~~ sheesh ~~ :)


I dunno about the Moon, but they certainly beat us all to Mars.
http://www.solarviews.com/eng/viking.htm



Larry December 5th 06 02:31 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in
ink.net:

11 rules. Was even a great Sci-fi story written about a culture with
base 11, they took over the earth.



What's that 11th finger?

Oh, wait, I see....(c;

After turning 60, I have trouble getting mine up for counting...


Jere Lull December 5th 06 03:35 AM

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In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Twelve rules!!


Somewhat useful, but I believe the Aztecs did pretty well with base 60.
16's a good compromise, particularly considering where we are right now.

But there are only 10 types of people:
Those that understand binary and those that don't.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Glenn Ashmore December 5th 06 03:53 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote

Oh please.

The Vikings discovered America. The Vikings discovered Central
America. The Vikings discovered South America. The Vikings
discovered Hawaii. The Vikings discovered New Zealand. The Vikings
discovered Minnesota and the Chinese are really funny looking Vikings.

What's next - the Vikings landed on the Moon and established a colony
on Mars?


And they did it all while eating nothing but Lutefisk! :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



Rich Hampel December 5th 06 04:44 AM

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Machine tool wise the metric system is a bad joke. All the lead and
pitch profiles are much less strong than the US system or even the old
Whitworth system.... remember that when youre flying in a EU built
aircraft, etc. Then again, think about how much its costing your
wallet for a non-EU manufacturer to be compliant to the EU "CE" or
"ISO" standards ... all in the name of bureacratic BS. If this all
wasnt just solely a means of one-ups-manship and overt unfair trade
control then it could be funny.



In article . com,
basskisser wrote:

Rich Hampel wrote:
It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.


Yeah, all measuration in units of 10, just like our numbering system.
How could anything make less sense? Hmm, I guess you could have the
Imperial system, where an there are twelve inches in a foot, 3 feet in
a yard, 5280 feet in a mile which was derived from 8 furlongs.


Tim December 5th 06 04:47 AM

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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
And they did it all while eating nothing but Lutefisk! :-)



O' GOSH!


Calif Bill December 5th 06 05:25 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:17:44 -0500, chuck wrote:

withheld wrote:
Has everyone forgotten that the statndard inch is actually
1/5e8 of the earth's diameter pole to pole?

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

I'll bet it really galls the ISO that the Earth's circumference
doesn't fit nicely into the metric system.

40,066 KM divided by 100 degrees divided by 100 minutes divided by
100 seconds = 40.066 meters. A messy little number that just doesn't
fit.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or
lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined
the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow
the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.



All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.


May I suggest that the following link will illuminate this thread with
particular emphasis on navigational units?

http://www.celticnz.co.nz/VikingNavigation.htm
Viking Navigation and Ancient Swedish Measurements


Oh please.

The Vikings discovered America. The Vikings discovered Central
America. The Vikings discovered South America. The Vikings
discovered Hawaii. The Vikings discovered New Zealand. The Vikings
discovered Minnesota and the Chinese are really funny looking Vikings.

What's next - the Vikings landed on the Moon and established a colony
on Mars?

~~ sheesh ~~ :)


They were my relatives. They were very good. They heard the raping and
pilaging was good in all those places. Why else go?



Calif Bill December 5th 06 05:27 AM

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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote

Oh please.

The Vikings discovered America. The Vikings discovered Central
America. The Vikings discovered South America. The Vikings
discovered Hawaii. The Vikings discovered New Zealand. The Vikings
discovered Minnesota and the Chinese are really funny looking Vikings.

What's next - the Vikings landed on the Moon and established a colony
on Mars?


And they did it all while eating nothing but Lutefisk! :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



At a party on Saturday, some lady where wearing a "Legalize Lutefisk"
button. Was afraid to ask the reason.



Bob December 5th 06 04:14 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Viking Navigation and Ancient Swedish Measurements


Oh please.
The Vikings
discovered Minnesota and the Chinese are really funny looking Vikings.



Yes, and we refer to our Chinese cousins as
"smoked Sweeds"


Bill Kearney December 5th 06 05:31 PM

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And they did it all while eating nothing but Lutefisk! :-)

Just how ****ed up was the fish that turning it into Lutefisk was an
*improvement*?


Calif Bill December 5th 06 05:35 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 05:25:52 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:17:44 -0500, chuck wrote:

withheld wrote:
Has everyone forgotten that the statndard inch is actually
1/5e8 of the earth's diameter pole to pole?

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...

I'll bet it really galls the ISO that the Earth's circumference
doesn't fit nicely into the metric system.

40,066 KM divided by 100 degrees divided by 100 minutes divided by
100 seconds = 40.066 meters. A messy little number that just
doesn't
fit.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or
lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...

It wont be long until the EU 'resets' the prime meridian through
the
administrative capital of Brussels .... just like the French tried
to
do a short time after the French Revolution ..... and then defined
the
meter as ~ 1/10.000,000 of the circumference of the earth.

Just remember this is what you get when you install authoritarian
socialism .... nothing make 'sense' and you HAVE to blindly follow
the
'rules' .... ask Microsoft how they feel about the EU.

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.


May I suggest that the following link will illuminate this thread with
particular emphasis on navigational units?

http://www.celticnz.co.nz/VikingNavigation.htm
Viking Navigation and Ancient Swedish Measurements

Oh please.

The Vikings discovered America. The Vikings discovered Central
America. The Vikings discovered South America. The Vikings
discovered Hawaii. The Vikings discovered New Zealand. The Vikings
discovered Minnesota and the Chinese are really funny looking Vikings.

What's next - the Vikings landed on the Moon and established a colony
on Mars?

~~ sheesh ~~ :)


They were my relatives.


Which explains a lot.

They were very good.


At what?

They heard the raping and pilaging was good in all those places. Why else
go?


Ah...well then...


Boating, raping ad pillaging.



Bruce in Alaska December 5th 06 08:32 PM

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In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.


Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!


I found that Diest Mug Rootbeer and BlueTooth Keyboards Don't mix well
at all..... Hope yours likes Pepsi better than mine liked Rootbear....

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

ACP December 5th 06 11:03 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:32:53 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:

In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.

Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!


I found that Diest Mug Rootbeer and BlueTooth Keyboards Don't mix well
at all..... Hope yours likes Pepsi better than mine liked Rootbear....


Fortunately, it was only the monitor.

And I love Mug Rootbeer. I love root beer period. Sarsaparilla too.
And Birch Beer. I used to make my own Root beer.

Now that I think about it, why am I drinking Pepsi? :)


Please stick with the Pepsi, I have a fair amount of PEP stock. But then
again, I prefer Diet Coke!



ACP December 5th 06 11:18 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:03:18 -0500, "ACP" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:32:53 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:

In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.

Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!

I found that Diest Mug Rootbeer and BlueTooth Keyboards Don't mix well
at all..... Hope yours likes Pepsi better than mine liked Rootbear....

Fortunately, it was only the monitor.

And I love Mug Rootbeer. I love root beer period. Sarsaparilla too.
And Birch Beer. I used to make my own Root beer.

Now that I think about it, why am I drinking Pepsi? :)


Please stick with the Pepsi, I have a fair amount of PEP stock. But then
again, I prefer Diet Coke!


I do drink Pepsi - Diet Pepsi actually. I hate Diet Coke.

Pah...

Oh, I also own Pepisco - it's been a good performer.


At least you loyal to holdings. I used to be a loyal Pepsi drinker
(non-diet) until I got hooked on DC.



Lars Johansson December 6th 06 11:20 AM

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"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
And they did it all while eating nothing but Lutefisk! :-)


Just how ****ed up was the fish that turning it into Lutefisk was an
*improvement*?


I think they preferd Lutfisk to the alternative.
/Lars J



navnut December 6th 06 01:19 PM

Knots being phased out?
 

Bruce in Alaska wrote:
In article ,
krj wrote:

Peter Bennett wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle
wrote:


Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it
will ever disappear in earth based navigation.


The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but
the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an
International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or
6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch.



I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not
latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude).
That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure
the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or
west side of the chart.
krj


Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle"
here.... Nautical Miles is based on "Minute of Latitude" which does
NOT change since the distance from the Equater to the Poles is ALWAYS
the SAME, from any place on the EQUATER. Therefor, when dividing that
distance in Degrees, MInutes, and Seconds, will ALWAYS produce the same
Unit Lengths. Where as Longitude is the cicumfrence of the earth at
the equater divided into Degrees, Minutes, and Seconds, and that DOES
change Unit length as you move closer to the Poles. Longitude is marked
on the bottom and top of Maps, where Latitude is marked on the right and
left had edges of Maps. One ALWAYS uses the Latitude markings for
distance because they do NOT change Unit Length, EVER.....

Bruce in alaska


Bruce has this right, but do watch out for very large area charts,
like, say, the North Atlantic (do they still print this?). To measure
nautical miles, you have to use the latitude scale near the latitude
you are measuring because the printed "length" of a minute of latitude
changes up and down the chart. This is an oddness of Mercator
projections. Similarly the shortest distance between two points on a
large area Mercator chart is usually NOT a straight line (see great
circle courses). But the Earth is round, and a real minute of Latitude
is always a nautical mile.


KLC Lewis December 6th 06 03:25 PM

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"Lars Johansson" wrote in message
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"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
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And they did it all while eating nothing but Lutefisk! :-)


Just how ****ed up was the fish that turning it into Lutefisk was an
*improvement*?


I think they preferd Lutfisk to the alternative.
/Lars J



Rotted shark?



You December 6th 06 07:32 PM

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In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:32:53 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:

In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.

Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!


I found that Diest Mug Rootbeer and BlueTooth Keyboards Don't mix well
at all..... Hope yours likes Pepsi better than mine liked Rootbear....


Fortunately, it was only the monitor.

And I love Mug Rootbeer. I love root beer period. Sarsaparilla too.
And Birch Beer. I used to make my own Root beer.

Now that I think about it, why am I drinking Pepsi? :)


because that is what the Little Lady likes and it is the only thing
in the house......Dahhhhhhh.....

Calif Bill December 6th 06 07:53 PM

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"You" wrote in message
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In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:32:53 GMT, Bruce in Alaska
wrote:

In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:48:12 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

All such arbitrary measurement systems are silly. We should base all
measurements on the half-life of Cesium, as the good Lord intended.

Crap - now I've got Pepsi all over the monitor!!! :)

ROTFL!!!!

I found that Diest Mug Rootbeer and BlueTooth Keyboards Don't mix well
at all..... Hope yours likes Pepsi better than mine liked Rootbear....


Fortunately, it was only the monitor.

And I love Mug Rootbeer. I love root beer period. Sarsaparilla too.
And Birch Beer. I used to make my own Root beer.

Now that I think about it, why am I drinking Pepsi? :)


because that is what the Little Lady likes and it is the only thing
in the house......Dahhhhhhh.....


When we were in Haines, AK this summer, the micro brewery, really good brew,
made real Birch beer. He said he went out in hte spring and collected the
birch tips to brew the beverage. His was alcohol containing.




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