Seeing I now have a pretty good handle on my 22ft. Monarch, I wouls
likw to take the fife and daughter on a riverf cruise next year.
Possibly on the Ohio and/or the Mississippi. Making this cruise
probably for a week. I'm sure blue water boating , flares would be
really convenient, that is, if not a necessity. But would such be
really needed for running rivers?

And secondly, If a person is going to use a flare pistol, do you have
to have a license for such ie via various state authority and/or
coastguard? FWIW, I live in Illinois, and do have a Firearm owners
identification card.

Thanks!


BTW
Please forgive the crosspost if necessary, but I would like more info
on the use of flares, and wished to open this thread to other boating
groups.


Frogwatch wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On 30 Nov 2006 08:41:55 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

As previously advised in this thread, forget all the little toy junk
that just barely manages to get "Coast Guard Approved" stamped on the
cartridges and step up to SOLAS flares.

SOLAS - There's just nothing quite like a big glob of burning
magnesium 1,000 feet in the air to get your attention.

I AM talking about SOLAS approved flares. The Pains Wessex MK7 Red
hand held are SOLAS approved. See:

http://www.pwss.com/products/product...137&ProdID=203

"Tim" wrote
I'm sure blue water boating , flares would be
really convenient, that is, if not a necessity. But would such be
really needed for running rivers?

They aren't required equipment for us river runners. You could maybe try to
use a flare if you find yourself dead in the water mid channel at night with
a barge bearing down, but you're probably a lot better off deliberately
avoiding finding yourself in that position in the first place.

Ernest Scribbler wrote:
They aren't required equipment for us river runners. You could maybe try to
use a flare if you find yourself dead in the water mid channel at night with
a barge bearing down, but you're probably a lot better off deliberately
avoiding finding yourself in that position in the first place.

Earnest, Those are my thoughts esxactly. I don't like the idea of
tangling with a barge, and feel it best to steer clear,but .... you
never know.

Thanks, Tom. I really wasn't disputing carrying the flares. I was
agreeing with Earnest that it would be best in everyones interest not
to do the cha-cha with barges.


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 1 Dec 2006 20:17:44 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


Ernest Scribbler wrote:
They aren't required equipment for us river runners. You could maybe try to
use a flare if you find yourself dead in the water mid channel at night with
a barge bearing down, but you're probably a lot better off deliberately
avoiding finding yourself in that position in the first place.

Earnest, Those are my thoughts esxactly. I don't like the idea of
tangling with a barge, and feel it best to steer clear,but .... you
never know.

That kind of thinking is exactly what causes accidents.

Carry the flares Tim - they are cheap enough, don't take up a lot of
room and you'll be that much safer.

"Tim" wrote
Thanks, Tom. I really wasn't disputing carrying the flares. I was
agreeing with Earnest that it would be best in everyones interest not
to do the cha-cha with barges.

I carry some expired flares with me. Never had occasion to use one.

All I was trying to say was that you shouldn't expect flares to serve as
barge repellent. We had an accident near here recently, three guys in a
houseboat, all below decks messing with a dodgy engine when the barge ran
over them. So many ways it could have been avoided.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 1 Dec 2006 20:17:44 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


Ernest Scribbler wrote:
They aren't required equipment for us river runners. You could maybe try
to
use a flare if you find yourself dead in the water mid channel at night
with
a barge bearing down, but you're probably a lot better off deliberately
avoiding finding yourself in that position in the first place.

Earnest, Those are my thoughts esxactly. I don't like the idea of
tangling with a barge, and feel it best to steer clear,but .... you
never know.

That kind of thinking is exactly what causes accidents.

Carry the flares Tim - they are cheap enough, don't take up a lot of
room and you'll be that much safer.

Every guy should have flares and a flare launcher. Is the manly thing to
have pyrotechnics in possession.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On 1 Dec 2006 20:17:44 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


Ernest Scribbler wrote:

They aren't required equipment for us river runners. You could maybe try
to
use a flare if you find yourself dead in the water mid channel at night
with
a barge bearing down, but you're probably a lot better off deliberately
avoiding finding yourself in that position in the first place.

Earnest, Those are my thoughts esxactly. I don't like the idea of
tangling with a barge, and feel it best to steer clear,but .... you
never know.

That kind of thinking is exactly what causes accidents.

Carry the flares Tim - they are cheap enough, don't take up a lot of
room and you'll be that much safer.


Every guy should have flares and a flare launcher. Is the manly thing to
have pyrotechnics in possession.


"manly"?? ... and this from a Californian!

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
That kind of thinking is exactly what causes accidents.

Carry the flares Tim - they are cheap enough, don't take up a lot of
room and you'll be that much safer.

I deffinately plan on it, Tom.

Unfortunately, I can't go 30 mi. to the local marine store during their
business hrs.

Don't live near a Bass Pro Shop, etc.

Can these be ordered online?

Hmmm, I just thought of something. Maybe my local gun dealer[s] can get
them?

I remember watching "Master Commander; The Far Side of the Earth"

And when the Brits werre chasing the French in the storm, and the Capt,
was wanting a speed report, I rememeber the guys at the back tossing a
line over the stern, and as the line reeled off they counted the
"knots" agains the time of an hr. glass. So to Google we go, and I
found this:

http://www.maryrose.org/lcity/pilot/tnotes.htm

Interesting to say the least.

OOPS! posted in the wrong thread. ....sorry! ?: (



Tim wrote:
I remember watching "Master Commander; The Far Side of the Earth"

And when the Brits werre chasing the French in the storm, and the Capt,
was wanting a speed report, I rememeber the guys at the back tossing a
line over the stern, and as the line reeled off they counted the
"knots" agains the time of an hr. glass. So to Google we go, and I
found this:

http://www.maryrose.org/lcity/pilot/tnotes.htm

Interesting to say the least.