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KLC Lewis wrote:
Might even say he's neaped himself. lol

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Mean, low, low actually.

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"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

"Gilligan" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
t...


...swam out with the anchor...?

Easy - you just a cushion or pfd for flotation.

KLC Lewis wrote:


Oh, c'mon. You manly men wouldn't have any problem at all. You'd grab
that 45# CQR, plop in on your hairy chest, and backstroke out a
hundred yards.

Oh sure, the anchor itself is no problem. It's the 20 yards of chain
that's the problem... stuff keeps getting tangled in your legs as
you're swimming....

DSK


Have you tried organising it around the...Samson post?


I hate it when all my chest hair get caught up in the anchor chain.
That's why I carry the chain in my teeth and the anchor in one hand when
I swim out to set it. To make sure I don't expend any unecessary effort
trying to stay down while setting the anchor I wear 85lbs of diver's
weights. I don't understand why any manly man would use an anchor to
kedge the boat when its aground. Why not just swim under the boat and
lift it up and push it out?


Gotta get the little woman to carry the anchor and chain... come on, get
with the program....


"little woman"? oh man...you have sunk lower than low...




....in the bud...

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Jeff wrote:
-rick- wrote:
Joe wrote:

3rd, you should have jumped in and swam out
with the anchor, dove down and planted it deep so you could kedge
yourself off.

...swam out with the anchor...?
Easy - you just a cushion or pfd for flotation.

A fender works well also.

Nothing worse than a winter swim with a 25 lb danforth to kedge
off...except calling towthiefsUSA and getting a bill that you wonder if
vasaline is included,

The bright side is you might discover an oyster reef, and instill some
level of self reliance and competence to your crew.

Joe

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"DSK" wrote in message
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...swam out with the anchor...?

Easy - you just a cushion or pfd for flotation.


KLC Lewis wrote:
Oh, c'mon. You manly men wouldn't have any problem at all. You'd grab
that 45# CQR, plop in on your hairy chest, and backstroke out a
hundred yards.

Oh sure, the anchor itself is no problem. It's the 20 yards of chain
that's the problem... stuff keeps getting tangled in your legs as
you're swimming....

DSK


Have you tried organising it around the...Samson post?


I hate it when all my chest hair get caught up in the anchor chain.
That's why I carry the chain in my teeth and the anchor in one hand when
I swim out to set it. To make sure I don't expend any unecessary effort
trying to stay down while setting the anchor I wear 85lbs of diver's
weights. I don't understand why any manly man would use an anchor to
kedge the boat when its aground. Why not just swim under the boat and
lift it up and push it out?


You could cut the testosterone here with a knife.

Hmmmm. Not a half-bad idea, that! ;-D

Your sense of humor is outstanding. Are you left handed?

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
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Your sense of humor is outstanding. Are you left handed?


Almost. I'm a drummer. lol

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"Scout" wrote in message
He did mention the fuel pump. I believe his wife failed
to
replace it the night before, even though she knew it was
going to die the next day.

Scotty

That's funny!
Scout


As funny as McNabb tripping over his own shoelaces and
getting injured?

SBV

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:26:13 -0700, in message

"Gilligan" wrote:

I don't
understand why any manly man would use an anchor to kedge the boat when its
aground. Why not just swim under the boat and lift it up and push it out?

Strangely enough, I have a photo around here somewhere of a friend
doing almost exactly that...

Ryk

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
He did mention the fuel pump. I believe his wife failed
to
replace it the night before, even though she knew it was
going to die the next day.

Scotty

That's funny!
Scout


As funny as McNabb tripping over his own shoelaces and
getting injured?

SBV

No way, he tripped over the chalk line. Lousy union chalk liners!
Scout

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
He did mention the fuel pump. I believe his wife failed
to
replace it the night before, even though she knew it was
going to die the next day.

Scotty

That's funny!
Scout


As funny as McNabb tripping over his own shoelaces and
getting injured?

SBV

Almost , but definitely as funny as Big Ben thinking his helmetless head was
tougher than a car bumper!
Scout

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"katy" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:

Don White wrote:


David OHara


I'm really glad you posted this and htat I read it before

ripping you a

new one that would have been the size of the

GrandCanyon...


When I was younger, I blamed everything on my wife, too. But
now I'm more mature, or is it 'trained'.


Scotty


...trained....you'll do almost anything for a Ritz cracker with squirty
cheese on it...

ah, um, nevermind.
Scout

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Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:


Don White wrote:


David OHara


I'm really glad you posted this and htat I read it before

ripping you a


new one that would have been the size of the

GrandCanyon...


When I was younger, I blamed everything on my wife, too. But
now I'm more mature, or is it 'trained'.


Scotty



...trained....you'll do almost anything for a Ritz cracker with squirty
cheese on it...


ah, um, nevermind.
Scout


I said "almost"....

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katy wrote:
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:


Don White wrote:


David OHara


I'm really glad you posted this and htat I read it before

ripping you a


new one that would have been the size of the

GrandCanyon...


When I was younger, I blamed everything on my wife, too. But
now I'm more mature, or is it 'trained'.


Scotty



...trained....you'll do almost anything for a Ritz cracker with squirty
cheese on it...


ah, um, nevermind.
Scout


I said "almost"....

Y'all still goin on on this topic? Get over it, We have. So I spent
nearly 500 bucks to be towed. Nobody got hurt, the boat is OK, I
learned about getting towed, I learned to leave my dinghy oars aboard,
and I got a story to tell my family at Thanksgiving (and I promise to
take the blame). BTW, it is still blowing 20 kts out of the north, my
idea that it would stop and blow from the south was wrong.

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"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his
proclivity for putting
weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!

Scotty

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his
proclivity for putting
weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!

My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the home of
Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd love the
place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Max

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!


In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!

Scotty


Bet you deep gry it too, huh?

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Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the home of
Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd love the
place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Max


I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam,
Twinkies, and squirty cheese?

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
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"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the home
of Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd love
the place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Max
I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam, Twinkies,
and squirty cheese?

don't know how long they'd live, but I'll bet they'd take centuries to
decompose.
Scout

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katy wrote:


I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam,
Twinkies, and squirty cheese?

I'd give said person about two days before before deciding not to wait
to find out.

Cheers
Marty

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!


In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out
of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till
tomorrow!

Scotty


Bet you deep gry it too, huh?


Nah, it's too big for that. Goes on a spit, over an old fuel
tank which I then burn leaves in.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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"katy" wrote in message
...


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in
Austin, MN, the home of
Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there.
You'd love the
place. I think you can sample the product after the
tour.

Max


I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was
Spam,
Twinkies, and squirty cheese?

You may find this hard to believe, but I've never had a
Twinkie.

Scotty

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Scotty wrote:


Bet you deep gry it too, huh?

Nah, it's too big for that. Goes on a spit, over an old fuel
tank which I then burn leaves in.

It'll cook faster if you leave a couple of gallons of heating oil in the
old tank!

Cheers
Marty
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In article ,
Don White wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in news:1164000104.521584.101920
@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:


I probably should go make amends.




No problem. The mall diamond stores open at 9AM, right on time....


Larry

That could be a dangerous thing to do. The wife may expect similar
offerings everytime he's wrong.

Oh GAWD, that'd be several times a day for me -- IF you accept her side
of the story, rather than mine ;-)


--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the home
of Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd love
the place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Max
I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam, Twinkies,
and squirty cheese?

Maybe indefinitely. We might all be doing it wrong.

Max

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"Scout" wrote in message
...
"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
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"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the
home of Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd
love the place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Max
I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam, Twinkies,
and squirty cheese?

don't know how long they'd live, but I'll bet they'd take centuries to
decompose.
Scout

LOL.

Max

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In article .com,
" wrote:

Don White wrote:
wrote:
snip..
They tow us to the dock and I go to pay. By this time I was
seriously happy to be off the boat with my wife so even *the
astonishing cost of $480* didn't faze me much. It was $10/ft for
the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165 minimum and a couple
other fees.
snip...

Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some friendly boater will
always come to the rescue...for free.

Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me blaming my wife for
my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If I had
displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could probably
have talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding.
Unfortunately, I consider sailing to be an excercise in problem
solving so I do not sail for the same reasons she does. I DID invite
her. I apologize.

David OHara

It had to be written to vent your frustration and allow you to think
more clearly.

I often do similar, and usually remember to hit "delete" before hitting
"send".

I understand your reasons for liking single-handing as I used to be the
same, but having accommodated "the admiral" for over a decade now, I can
categorically state that nothing beats having your lady along.

Yes, that means that we stayed put when I was pretty certain we could
muscle through. Yes, we dove for safe anchorages before conditions got
even mildly dicey. And sometimes we found that we could have made that
leg comfortably.

But the admiral now categorically trusts my judgement, despite the times
I screwed up. One morning we awoke to a 20 degree heel due to a
grounding. Ho hum, we'll wait for the tide.

We DO, though, always have iron rations on board at all times. For us,
that's a couple packages of Kraft Deluxe Mac and Cheese and a couple
foil packets of tuna or salmon. That's enough calories and protein to
keep us for a couple of days. "Tuna casserole" is one of our few shared
comfort foods. Yours is probably different. KEEP it onboard. When (not
if) you screw up, whatever your lady deems comfort food will go a LONG
way towards mitigating the specific circumstances.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"Scotty" wrote in message
om...


"katy" wrote in message
...


wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting


weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the home
of Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd love
the place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Max

I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam, Twinkies,
and squirty cheese?


Maybe indefinitely. We might all be doing it wrong.

Max



Probably be the only items not 'Made in China' very very soon.

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!


In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till
tomorrow!

Scotty


Bet you deep gry it too, huh?

Yum, fried spam...almost as good as bacon for breakfast!

Seahag

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in

Austin, MN, the home of

Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there.

You'd love the

place. I think you can sample the product after the

tour.

Max



I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was

Spam,

Twinkies, and squirty cheese?


You may find this hard to believe, but I've never had a
Twinkie.

Scotty


Hah......how unAmerican can you get....

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"Seahag" wrote in message
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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!


In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!

Scotty


Bet you deep gry it too, huh?

Yum, fried spam...almost as good as bacon for breakfast!

Seahag

You gotta try it with a little squirty cheese on top!
Scout

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"Scout" wrote in message
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Scotty


Bet you deep gry it too, huh?

Yum, fried spam...almost as good as bacon for breakfast!

Seahag

You gotta try it with a little squirty cheese on top!


Spam, bacon? Both!


Scotty

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Mature. Always sail with the wind at your back; there's no point in
annoying the pig.

--
jlrogers±³©
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

Don White wrote:


David OHara


I'm really glad you posted this and htat I read it before

ripping you a

new one that would have been the size of the

GrandCanyon...


When I was younger, I blamed everything on my wife, too. But
now I'm more mature, or is it 'trained'.


Scotty


...trained....you'll do almost anything for a Ritz cracker with squirty
cheese on it...

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Where is Neal? Any word?

--
jlrogers±³©
"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..
Leave the wife home. Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of
the problem, she can only make matters worse. Just think of what might
have happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to prevent
catastrophe.

The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement will
be when you are out sailing the world - without her.

I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's emotionally
driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not understanding. Why
aren't women expected to understand men? Why is it assumed that women are
so handicapped? Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism?

Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some family
matters. Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such
as attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the
like. In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and
the woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won.

It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner
Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain
that he would add brilliant insight.

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jlrogers±³© wrote:
Where is Neal? Any word?



Best not to ask that question. It might open a portal into a dimension
you don't want to go.... or worse.

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jlrogers±³© wrote:
Where is Neal? Any word?


He's here...alias Ellen MacArthur...they missed when he had his
hermmorhoidectormy...

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"katy" wrote
| He's here...alias Ellen MacArthur...they missed when he had his
| hermmorhoidectormy...


Such fantasies you have, Dearie! Got nothing better to do with your time?
But you give me a good laugh. Capt. Neal knows more about sailing in his little
finger than I know about it in my whole body. I think it'd be accurate to say
Capt. Neal knows more about sailing than everybody in this news group put
together. Seems like you people never go sailing. And, even though you all
are addicted to your computers, I don't see anybody here who has a website
chock full of sailing wisdom like Capt. Neal does. Sailing wisdom and life's
lessons wisdom. All grounded in philosophy that'd make Aristotle take notice.
That's rare in a man these days. Hmmmmmm, sorta makes you wonder doesn't
it Katy? I guess you find it easier to spread gossip and lies than doing something
constructive. Yes, that's it! Jealous of the man's greatness. No ambition of your
own so you stay mediocre.

Cheers,
Ellen

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"katy" wrote
| He's here...alias Ellen MacArthur...they missed when he had his
| hermmorhoidectormy...


Such fantasies you have, Dearie! Got nothing better to do with your time?
But you give me a good laugh. Capt. Neal knows more about sailing in his little
finger than I know about it in my whole body. I think it'd be accurate to say
Capt. Neal knows more about sailing than everybody in this news group put
together. Seems like you people never go sailing. And, even though you all
are addicted to your computers, I don't see anybody here who has a website
chock full of sailing wisdom like Capt. Neal does. Sailing wisdom and life's
lessons wisdom. All grounded in philosophy that'd make Aristotle take notice.
That's rare in a man these days. Hmmmmmm, sorta makes you wonder doesn't
it Katy? I guess you find it easier to spread gossip and lies than doing something
constructive. Yes, that's it! Jealous of the man's greatness. No ambition of your
own so you stay mediocre.

Cheers,
Ellen


So Capt... did you have the 'big operation' or do you just play at this
female thing?

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"Maxprop" wrote in
nk.net:


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the
home of Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there. You'd
love the place. I think you can sample the product after the tour.

Look at this! Maxipad "the king of the hypocrites" is cross-posting and
is off topic to boot! Not to mention his beloved katy, scotty, and
others.

He professed that anyone that crossposts will go into his killfile! I
guess he will have to killfile himself, along with katykunt! Too funny!

Maybe he's finally agreed that crossposting isn't such a bad thing after
all!

blondie

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katy wrote in
:

I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam,
Twinkies, and squirty cheese?

Here's katykunt with an all important question, crossposted to 3
sailing groups!

Oh the humanity!

blondie

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"Maxprop" wrote in
ink.net:


"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
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"katy" wrote in message
...

wrote:

We're talking about Scotty now, not you. And his

proclivity for putting

weird things in hsi stomach. He eats Spam, ya know...
and you think YOU were ashamed!

In fact, Lisa just finished sculpting the 'Turkey' out of
Spam ( 33 cans worth ) MmmMmm, can't wait till tomorrow!


My cousin is a physician with Mayo Health Systems in Austin, MN, the
home of Hormel (Spam). They actually have a Spam Museum there.
You'd love the place. I think you can sample the product after the
tour.

Max
I wonder how long a person would live if all they ate was Spam,
Twinkies, and squirty cheese?

Maybe indefinitely. We might all be doing it wrong.


Number three! He's on a roll, folks! roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!

blondie

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katy wrote in
:

Chi Chi wrote:
The wife should buy hubby an auto pilot for christmas so she can stay
home and face all those challenges of raising children that You speak
so highly of. I noticed dear kate You ignored the part where the
hubby stated he has told her and shown her time and time again how to
do things and she can't seem to get it.

He obviously has no teaching skills, Neal.

This is absolutely hysterical! A person with cable in Dallas, TX
(ChiChi) who katykunt is accusing of being Neal! At the same time, Neal
is in Florida! How can this be possible? roflmao

Could it be that she finds her beloved Neal hiding behind every bush?

blondie