new tiller vendor recommendation
 

Hi, my tiller has really taken the beats over the last few years and
just last sail or so with some solid weather helming it gave a good
crack and well.. it held together but the lateral lamination is
starting to go. Anyone recommend wooden tiller make/model/vendor? The
boat is a 1971 Ranger 26, Gary Mull.

Cheers,

-CB

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

H & L Marine, who (unfortunately) do not have a Web presence but their
tiller products can be seen by scrolling down about 3/4 to the bottom
he

http://www.apsltd.com/tree/d3000/e693.asp

or phone H & L direct at: (323) 636-1718

MW


CB wrote:
Hi, my tiller has really taken the beats over the last few years and
just last sail or so with some solid weather helming it gave a good
crack and well.. it held together but the lateral lamination is
starting to go. Anyone recommend wooden tiller make/model/vendor? The
boat is a 1971 Ranger 26, Gary Mull.

Cheers,

-CB

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

"CB" wrote
Anyone recommend wooden tiller make/model/vendor?

Home depot?
http://www.tennesseehickoryproducts....ic2_larger.jpg

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

West has lots of more or less "standard" tillers, but if you don't want
to go there, and I wouldn't blame you, you can make it yourself.
Lamination is one technique, but I've seen on other boats, and
installed on an Ericson 30 a mattock handle. Now it looks like it's
off the farm, which isn't too far afield, but it works, and it's solid.
A tiller is no mystery

good luck!

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Hi, Centerboard,

CB wrote:
Hi, my tiller has really taken the beats over the last few years and
just last sail or so with some solid weather helming it gave a good
crack and well.. it held together but the lateral lamination is
starting to go. Anyone recommend wooden tiller make/model/vendor? The
boat is a 1971 Ranger 26, Gary Mull.

Cheers,

-CB


Wit apologies to all with tender sensitiviities, and noting that
Gundlach (my moniker) is German so as to indicate no offense...

The German fabricator, of course...













Wait for it....






























A tiller?




























The Hun.


We now return you to your regular programming, and I continune to make
the boat ready for sea trials.

I couldn't resist. I apologized in advance. Please don't shoot me.

L8R

Skip and Lydia

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

Luc ,,, I read this and got thinking I should get a new tiller...

I've never given this one thought ... is there some reason to use lamination
when fabricating a tiller?

If one was to take a solid piece of wood, cut it to size, finish it up,,, a
little varnish ... would that do the trick?

=======
"Luc" wrote in message
oups.com...

West has lots of more or less "standard" tillers, but if you don't want
to go there, and I wouldn't blame you, you can make it yourself.
Lamination is one technique, but I've seen on other boats, and
installed on an Ericson 30 a mattock handle. Now it looks like it's
off the farm, which isn't too far afield, but it works, and it's solid.
A tiller is no mystery

good luck!

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

NE Sailboat wrote:
Luc ,,, I read this and got thinking I should get a new tiller...

I've never given this one thought ... is there some reason to use lamination
when fabricating a tiller?

If one was to take a solid piece of wood, cut it to size, finish it up,,, a
little varnish ... would that do the trick?

=======
"Luc" wrote in message
oups.com...
West has lots of more or less "standard" tillers, but if you don't want
to go there, and I wouldn't blame you, you can make it yourself.
Lamination is one technique, but I've seen on other boats, and
installed on an Ericson 30 a mattock handle. Now it looks like it's
off the farm, which isn't too far afield, but it works, and it's solid.
A tiller is no mystery

good luck!




Worked for Noah!
Gordon

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

NE Sailboat wrote:
Luc ,,, I read this and got thinking I should get a new tiller...

I've never given this one thought ... is there some reason to use lamination
when fabricating a tiller?

If one was to take a solid piece of wood, cut it to size, finish it up,,, a
little varnish ... would that do the trick?


The tiller on my 19 foot sailboat is solid wood.
I went to the manufacturers website and see the replacement tiller is
solid ash.

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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:53:57 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote:

I've never given this one thought ... is there some reason to use lamination
when fabricating a tiller?

If one was to take a solid piece of wood, cut it to size, finish it up,,, a
little varnish ... would that do the trick?

No problem if you have a straight tiller. If you want it to curve
however then you need laminated strips that will bend easily without
creating a grain weakness.

I once discussed the procedure with an old time boat builder. His
advice was to sketch the desired curve full size on a wood plank with
the same thickness as the tiller width. He would then use a bandsaw
to cut the plank into two pieces along the curved line. Next step is
to stack the wood strips with slow curing glue/epoxy and clamp between
the two pieces of the plank until cured, using wax paper as a
separator to avoid gluing the strips to the form.

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yeah this looks right. something like the F/G curve. I'll measure
next time i'm at the yard. Thanks very much,

-CB

On Oct 31, 8:35 pm, wrote:
H & L Marine, who (unfortunately) do not have a Web presence but their
tiller products can be seen by scrolling down about 3/4 to the bottom
he

http://www.apsltd.com/tree/d3000/e693.asp

or phone H & L direct at: (323) 636-1718

MW

CB wrote:
Hi, my tiller has really taken the beats over the last few years and
just last sail or so with some solid weather helming it gave a good
crack and well.. it held together but the lateral lamination is
starting to go. Anyone recommend wooden tiller make/model/vendor? The
boat is a 1971 Ranger 26, Gary Mull.

Cheers,

-CB

new tiller vendor recommendation
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:

Done correctly, it makes a MUCH stronger tiller.

CWM

Charlie is right. Laminating is stronger, and for a particular reason:
by laminating, you make sure the grain of the wood is not continuous,
which can lead to internal stress, cracking, bending, all sorts of
problems with solid wood.

One suggestion I read here about making a tiller, drawing it to full
scale and laminating is good, but doesn't allow for "spring back".
When you remove the clamps, the wood wants to go back to its original
shape, so you have to over correct when laminating it.

For small boats, a solid tiller is probably fine, and damn fast and
easy to make. Small boats typically have small loads, and so you don't
need a tree trunk to do the job.

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On 7 Nov 2006 10:19:00 -0800, in message
.com
"Luc" wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:

Done correctly, it makes a MUCH stronger tiller.

CWM

Charlie is right. Laminating is stronger, and for a particular reason:
by laminating, you make sure the grain of the wood is not continuous,
which can lead to internal stress, cracking, bending, all sorts of
problems with solid wood.

If you are looking for a short cut, you can laminate a few thicknesses
of plywood together with West System to make your blank, shape it with
a belt sander and power plane, then encapsulate it in epoxy and
varnish. The result is not as pretty as some laminated tillers, but it
worked for me when the guy I'd found to custom laminate a furniture
grade tiller just couldn't get around to it. It got the boat out on
the water promptly ;-)

Ryk