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[email protected] October 14th 06 07:07 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
Well, I did the most stupid thing last week ... I have three deck
fittings which read Waste, Water, and Fuel. And at a fuel dock I put
two gallons of diesel into the water bladder. DUMB. There was about
five gallons of water in the bladder. The next day I pumped out the
bladder and removed it. Just wondering - do you think it's wrecked? Any
ideas on how to clean it?


October 14th 06 09:22 PM

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The best thing would be to replace your bladder.
Cleaning it is not all that bad. It's the smell that remains in the
container. Even after a thorough cleaning the water will have the taste of
diesel for months.
The first thing is to dispose of the diesel and water in a legal manner.
Then I used mix dishsoap and drinking water and let it in the bladder
overnight and rinse it.
I repeat the process about three time. At that stage it will still smell of
diesel. After that I fill the bladder (container) with a mixture of Clorox
and drinking water and let it in overnight. Even after the water will still
have some tracing smell of diesel. I then repeat the Clorox treatment as
need it. All summer we had trace of diesel smell and the coffee did not
taste as good.
After one season it got back to normal.
Based on the configuration of the bladder its location and replacement cost
it could be easier to replace it.
Other people have used steam to clean contaminated bladders or tanks but I
have no experience with this process.



wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, I did the most stupid thing last week ... I have three deck
fittings which read Waste, Water, and Fuel. And at a fuel dock I put
two gallons of diesel into the water bladder. DUMB. There was about
five gallons of water in the bladder. The next day I pumped out the
bladder and removed it. Just wondering - do you think it's wrecked? Any
ideas on how to clean it?




Rosalie B. October 14th 06 11:12 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
wrote:

The best thing would be to replace your bladder.
Cleaning it is not all that bad. It's the smell that remains in the
container. Even after a thorough cleaning the water will have the taste of
diesel for months.


The thing is that the fuel permeates the pores of the bladder. I would
pitch the old one and get a new one.

You might want to consider color coding the deck fills also so that this
doesn't happen again.

The first thing is to dispose of the diesel and water in a legal manner.
Then I used mix dishsoap and drinking water and let it in the bladder
overnight and rinse it.
I repeat the process about three time. At that stage it will still smell of
diesel. After that I fill the bladder (container) with a mixture of Clorox
and drinking water and let it in overnight. Even after the water will still
have some tracing smell of diesel. I then repeat the Clorox treatment as
need it. All summer we had trace of diesel smell and the coffee did not
taste as good.
After one season it got back to normal.
Based on the configuration of the bladder its location and replacement cost
it could be easier to replace it.
Other people have used steam to clean contaminated bladders or tanks but I
have no experience with this process.



wrote in message
roups.com...
Well, I did the most stupid thing last week ... I have three deck
fittings which read Waste, Water, and Fuel. And at a fuel dock I put
two gallons of diesel into the water bladder. DUMB. There was about
five gallons of water in the bladder. The next day I pumped out the
bladder and removed it. Just wondering - do you think it's wrecked? Any
ideas on how to clean it?




[email protected] October 15th 06 11:42 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
Rosalie B. wrote:
"You might want to consider color coding the deck fills also so that
this doesn't happen again."

Because I am such a dumbass that I don't learn from my mistakes,
Rosalie. Huh .. Through the years you've never passed up on a dig.
ThankYou to all who responded.

Rosalie, You might want to consider walking the plank if you're ever on
my sloop!


October 16th 06 12:54 AM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
This problem is age old. Now the builders of new sailboats are locating the
potable water intake on the deck close to the bow of the boat.
This way it may not be fool proof but close to sailor proof. Color coding
is a good idea. Normally light blue for potable water, yellow for diesel
and red for gasoline. This way it will match the color coding used on
plastic containers.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Rosalie B. wrote:
"You might want to consider color coding the deck fills also so that
this doesn't happen again."

Because I am such a dumbass that I don't learn from my mistakes,
Rosalie. Huh .. Through the years you've never passed up on a dig.
ThankYou to all who responded.

Rosalie, You might want to consider walking the plank if you're ever on
my sloop!




Rosalie B. October 16th 06 02:25 AM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:
"You might want to consider color coding the deck fills also so that
this doesn't happen again."

Because I am such a dumbass that I don't learn from my mistakes,
Rosalie. Huh ..


Well actually I was thinking that other people might make the same mistake
and that would help head it off. But I guess you know yourself best.

Through the years you've never passed up on a dig. ThankYou to all who responded.

Rosalie, You might want to consider walking the plank if you're ever on
my sloop!


It would certainly be a good idea - for one of us.


Peggie Hall October 16th 06 02:31 AM

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wrote:
Rosalie B. wrote:
"You might want to consider color coding the deck fills also so that
this doesn't happen again."

Because I am such a dumbass that I don't learn from my mistakes,
Rosalie. Huh .. Through the years you've never passed up on a dig.
ThankYou to all who responded.

Rosalie, You might want to consider walking the plank if you're ever on
my sloop!

Lighten up! Ok...you feel like a doofus. But if it's any consolation
you've jus joined a very large "club" of which I'm also a member,
although I got lucky...I only put about 35 gals of water into my
starboard gas tank...much easier to fix than fuel in a water tank. But I
can't count the number of people I know or or have heard from--including
marine professionals--who've also put fuel in a water tank, water in a
fuel tank, pumped out a fuel or water tank...

The good news is, nobody EVER does it a second time.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304

Wayne.B October 16th 06 03:28 AM

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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:31:24 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

The good news is, nobody EVER does it a second time.


Well, I know someone who almost did it a second time but was stopped
short by his brand new, color coded label plates...

:-)


Rick October 16th 06 04:37 AM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
A friend of mine asked his new girl friend to help him fill his water tank.
While he was working down below about a 1/2 hour later she replied that all
three are full. His reply was that I have only 1 water tank.

Color coding may not be the complete answer.


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:31:24 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

The good news is, nobody EVER does it a second time.


Well, I know someone who almost did it a second time but was stopped
short by his brand new, color coded label plates...

:-)




Rosalie B. October 16th 06 05:02 AM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
"Rick" wrote:

A friend of mine asked his new girl friend to help him fill his water tank.
While he was working down below about a 1/2 hour later she replied that all
three are full. His reply was that I have only 1 water tank.


That's the kind of thing I was thinking about.

Color coding may not be the complete answer.

No, but if they were color coded, he could have said - put water in the
blue tank fill (or whatever it was) rather than just saying fill the water
tank.

I can tell all kinds of stories about people who have put stuff in places
that they don't belong. One fuel truck driver put a whole tankful of fuel
into a school furnace room where there used to be a tank, but they'd
switched from fuel oil to natural gas, and had taken the tank out. Another
time the guy dumped a load into a monitoring well. And third delivery
person was delivering pool chemicals and managed to generate chlorine gas
by putting a chemical in the wrong tank, which meant they had to evacuate
kids from a swimming pool in January with snow on the ground - they
couldn't even go back to the lockers because there was gas there.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:31:24 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

The good news is, nobody EVER does it a second time.


Well, I know someone who almost did it a second time but was stopped
short by his brand new, color coded label plates...

:-)




Don White October 16th 06 03:27 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
Rick wrote:
A friend of mine asked his new girl friend to help him fill his water tank.
While he was working down below about a 1/2 hour later she replied that all
three are full. His reply was that I have only 1 water tank.

Color coding may not be the complete answer.


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:31:24 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:


The good news is, nobody EVER does it a second time.


Well, I know someone who almost did it a second time but was stopped
short by his brand new, color coded label plates...

:-)


I wouldn't even think of asking someone else to fill any tank on a boat
until I gave clear percise instructions on what to fill where & how.

terry October 19th 06 07:41 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 

wrote:
This problem is age old. Now the builders of new sailboats are locating the
potable water intake on the deck close to the bow of the boat.
This way it may not be fool proof but close to sailor proof. Color coding
is a good idea. Normally light blue for potable water, yellow for diesel
and red for gasoline. This way it will match the color coding used on
plastic containers.

Our 30+ year old boat has "water" engraved/moulded into the Aluminum
water cap. Also it is located forward, so nothing to do with the
inboard engine etc. aft.
Colour coding sounds like good idea, although until now wasn't aware
there was a 'standard' for each fluid! So not likely that volunteer
crew members and/or summer staff at a marina will be any more
knowledgeable than myself?


October 19th 06 08:56 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
Whatever, If I can I'll have the portable deck intake on my next boat.
The idea is not new. It is just that it struck me when I went at the
Newport RI boat show this year.
In this area most of the sailboats have the water deck filing astern. Some
of the guys have replaced their holding tank located forward with a water
tank acting as an extra supply.



"terry" wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
This problem is age old. Now the builders of new sailboats are locating
the
potable water intake on the deck close to the bow of the boat.
This way it may not be fool proof but close to sailor proof. Color
coding
is a good idea. Normally light blue for potable water, yellow for diesel
and red for gasoline. This way it will match the color coding used on
plastic containers.

Our 30+ year old boat has "water" engraved/moulded into the Aluminum
water cap. Also it is located forward, so nothing to do with the
inboard engine etc. aft.
Colour coding sounds like good idea, although until now wasn't aware
there was a 'standard' for each fluid! So not likely that volunteer
crew members and/or summer staff at a marina will be any more
knowledgeable than myself?




Capt. JG October 19th 06 11:06 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
wrote in message
...
Whatever, If I can I'll have the portable deck intake on my next boat.
The idea is not new. It is just that it struck me when I went at the
Newport RI boat show this year.
In this area most of the sailboats have the water deck filing astern.
Some of the guys have replaced their holding tank located forward with a
water tank acting as an extra supply.



"terry" wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
This problem is age old. Now the builders of new sailboats are locating
the
potable water intake on the deck close to the bow of the boat.
This way it may not be fool proof but close to sailor proof. Color
coding
is a good idea. Normally light blue for potable water, yellow for
diesel
and red for gasoline. This way it will match the color coding used on
plastic containers.

Our 30+ year old boat has "water" engraved/moulded into the Aluminum
water cap. Also it is located forward, so nothing to do with the
inboard engine etc. aft.
Colour coding sounds like good idea, although until now wasn't aware
there was a 'standard' for each fluid! So not likely that volunteer
crew members and/or summer staff at a marina will be any more
knowledgeable than myself?


What's the "standard" color for the holding tank?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




krj October 19th 06 11:22 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...

Whatever, If I can I'll have the portable deck intake on my next boat.
The idea is not new. It is just that it struck me when I went at the
Newport RI boat show this year.
In this area most of the sailboats have the water deck filing astern.
Some of the guys have replaced their holding tank located forward with a
water tank acting as an extra supply.



"terry" wrote in message
roups.com...

wrote:

This problem is age old. Now the builders of new sailboats are locating
the
potable water intake on the deck close to the bow of the boat.
This way it may not be fool proof but close to sailor proof. Color
coding
is a good idea. Normally light blue for potable water, yellow for
diesel
and red for gasoline. This way it will match the color coding used on
plastic containers.


Our 30+ year old boat has "water" engraved/moulded into the Aluminum
water cap. Also it is located forward, so nothing to do with the
inboard engine etc. aft.
Colour coding sounds like good idea, although until now wasn't aware
there was a 'standard' for each fluid! So not likely that volunteer
crew members and/or summer staff at a marina will be any more
knowledgeable than myself?



What's the "standard" color for the holding tank?

black

RW Salnick October 19th 06 11:43 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 
terry inscribed in red ink for all to know:
wrote:

This problem is age old. Now the builders of new sailboats are locating the
potable water intake on the deck close to the bow of the boat.
This way it may not be fool proof but close to sailor proof. Color coding
is a good idea. Normally light blue for potable water, yellow for diesel
and red for gasoline. This way it will match the color coding used on
plastic containers.


Our 30+ year old boat has "water" engraved/moulded into the Aluminum
water cap. Also it is located forward, so nothing to do with the
inboard engine etc. aft.
Colour coding sounds like good idea, although until now wasn't aware
there was a 'standard' for each fluid! So not likely that volunteer
crew members and/or summer staff at a marina will be any more
knowledgeable than myself?


The standards I have seen a

Water: Blue
Diesel: Green
Gasoline: Red
Holding Tank: Black

bob

Bob October 19th 06 11:45 PM

Diesel Into Water Bladder
 

terry wrote:
wrote:



Colour coding sounds like good idea, although until now wasn't aware
there was a 'standard' for each fluid!


The "big boys and girls" use the yellow and blue etc color code for
"deck fills", vents and over fills. But they usually have a QMED, or
lowley wipper doing such activity.

Sorta like O2 compressed gas cylinders using green,
NO2 blue, Acetylene black, unless in the EU then maroon...........

But even preasure vessel color code is not universally standard in the
USA.

So not likely that volunteer
crew members and/or summer staff at a marina will be any more
knowledgeable than myself?


Ya but who drives up to the pump and says filler up and then walks
away? Personnaly I consider any on-loading, and for that matter, taking
on ANYthing on my boat a personal-lineof sight activity.

I have a 2" color band painted on my deck that surrounds each deck
fill. It reminds my muddled brain to put the right stuff iun the right
hole.
ex jailer
Sometimes controll freak
Bob



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