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SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle.
I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
You be going agin the grain! Winds typically from the NW. Going the great
circle probably not a great idea in November either. G "tlindly" wrote in message ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
"tlindly" wrote in message
ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Not many good windows for this sort of thing. Just beware of the winter storms and be prepared to pull into a spot if things look like there going to get bad. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
I would re-ask on the Cascadia List.
http://www.sailcascadia.org/ But, I believe most people head south in August from Puget Sound, but target October as the last month to head south without storms. -- Patrick's Sailing Blog: http://shipsrecord.com/blogs/patrick/ "tlindly" wrote in message ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
"tlindly" wrote in message ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Jimmy Cornell, page 204-205 of "World Cruising Routes," suggests April for northern California routes, May thru June for British Columbia, recommending making at least 200 miles to sea from California, before heading north, to accomodate the prevailing NW winds. He also implies that this is not a passage for neophytes. In any event, I highly recommend his book. It's a "must have" in any boat's library, in my opinion. Winters on the Oregon coast can be quite spectacular -- best viewed from shore. 30 foot breakers pounding the cliffs are a sight to behold. |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Gordon wrote:
You be going agin the grain! Winds typically from the NW. Going the great circle probably not a great idea in November either. G "tlindly" wrote in message ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... There is no great circle. The trip will be upwind against the current all the way to Juan de Fuca. The best way to do it would be to sail to Hawaii next June and sail NNW out of Hawaii in July or early August until you are north of the pacific high then do the run down the west coast of Vancouver Island to Juan de Fuca. Otherwise, if you want to go now, stay close to shore and coast hop north. You'll be motoring a lot. You'll have to pay your crew. A 60 year old ketch won't beat to windward worth a damn. I sailed an 80 year old ketch (102') up last summer (05). it was two and a half days going south and seven motorsailing coming north. You could probably track us on google earth by the slick of barf we left. Gary |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Capt. JG wrote:
"tlindly" wrote in message ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Not many good windows for this sort of thing. Just beware of the winter storms and be prepared to pull into a spot if things look like there going to get bad. The problem is they close the bar crossings in any kind of sea. You have to be committed. Gary |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Gary wrote:
Not many good windows for this sort of thing. Just beware of the winter storms and be prepared to pull into a spot if things look like there going to get bad. The problem is they close the bar crossings in any kind of sea. You have to be committed. Gary Amen to all that. I wouldn't take any small boat in that direction in November unless it had a powerful motor and I had a few months to spare. We set sail from the Strait of Juan de Fuca Sept 22nd, heading south. That was too late. Got smacked around for 3 days and headed for Gray's Harbour which has a nasty bar crossing. I called the CG for a bar report. They said "skipper, the bar is closed to vessels under 36'". I replied, "oh, that's o.k., we're 30'" (groggy from lack of sleep I think) "Uh skipper would you like an escort coming in?" Me: "Sure, that would be real nice." They sent out 2 self righting surf lifeboats, one ahead, one astern. The seas were 15' and breaking on either side of us. The channel depth on the depthsounder ranged from 15' to 30'. Very high pucker factor. CG escorted in 5 other vessels that day. We were all there for a week, waiting for a window to continue heading south (around Oct 1st by now). This can be a rough coast when the weather kicks up, and weather predictions are actually pretty bad - very sparse data net in the N. Pacific. Evan Gatehouse |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
tlindly wrote:.
I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). 1. Consider the Coastal Pilot, which does include wind direction in its climatological tables and 2. Poke around the NOAA National Weather Service site. I'm not sure how far Google digs, but there is a wealth of information there if you spend some time looking. Best regards, Steve Hayes Augusta, ME |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:14:26 -0500, in message
"KLC Lewis" wrote: "tlindly" wrote in message oups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Jimmy Cornell, page 204-205 of "World Cruising Routes," suggests April for northern California routes, May thru June for British Columbia, recommending making at least 200 miles to sea from California, before heading north, to accomodate the prevailing NW winds. He also implies that this is not a passage for neophytes. In any event, I highly recommend his book. It's a "must have" in any boat's library, in my opinion. He also suggests that port hopping up the coast about 10 miles out is a good strategy, especially if you are willing to motor in the late summer when the NW winds are lighter. Ryk |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
On 19 Sep 2006 03:11:36 -0700, "tlindly" wrote:
I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). You might want to check the Weather Fax at: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/nepacificbrief.shtml. Anyone made this passage before? I have not made this passage, nor do I intent to, unless there was a great incentive.. I know three who trucked their boat from SF to Seattle after having made the attempt. One friend did it and would not do it again. Any suggestions? I just checked the fax. The 48 hour forecast shows gale force winds off the California coast. You might monitor it for a while to get an impression of what you might face. The "safe" route from Mexico is via Honolulu, and then north almost to the Aleutians before turning for the Pacific NorthWest. Jack _________________________________________ Jack Dale ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com _________________________________________ |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Excellent post. I live and play on the Oregon coast. It is frighteningly
beautify but truly NOT for the faint of heart or the neophyte much of the year! "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "tlindly" wrote in message ups.com... I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Jimmy Cornell, page 204-205 of "World Cruising Routes," suggests April for northern California routes, May thru June for British Columbia, recommending making at least 200 miles to sea from California, before heading north, to accomodate the prevailing NW winds. He also implies that this is not a passage for neophytes. In any event, I highly recommend his book. It's a "must have" in any boat's library, in my opinion. Winters on the Oregon coast can be quite spectacular -- best viewed from shore. 30 foot breakers pounding the cliffs are a sight to behold. |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
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Danny wrote: Excellent post. I live and play on the Oregon coast. It is frighteningly beautify but truly NOT for the faint of heart or the neophyte much of the year! Same goes down here off San Francisco... people die out there every year. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
tlindly wrote: I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. Mistake #1: old boat. you better know it inside and out and have just finished a total refit in the last 5 years. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. Summer: winds out of theNW unless some low system at hand then storms are out of the SW. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Yes if heading south Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I'll put that in your obituary. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Lets see, how about the phrase, "grave yard of the Pacific." Does that give you any indication of what youre heading into??!?!? Anyone made this passage before? Yep. Grew up in Newport, OR. Step dad commercial fished the area. I worked the summers with him as a kid. too many dead friends to list here. Any suggestions? If youneed to get the boat north in NOV: 1) give it to a deliver skipper. there is a guy named Bob in WInchester Bay, OR on an Ingrid who is good. But he will most likely tell you forget about it. Why? because he is over 60 yo and knows what he is doing. he got that old doing things right. 2) sail to Hawaii........ enjoy yourself and wait till June. Sail to BC then turn right for a down wind blow. Is there a better forum for this question? The bars are far and few between and closed often in the winter (NOV). the coast is a series of "sandy cell beaches" seperated by basalt headlands. even if you are lucky enough to get blown on a sandy beach the surf will tear you apart. for example, a friend of mine got his truck stuck on the beach one winter night loading wood. One tide excahnge left only an engine and transmitin on a frame. Oh, there was one rim, no tire, left on the rear axel. Are you getting the picture yet? Bob thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Ryk wrote: He also suggests that port hopping up the coast about 10 miles out is a good strategy, especially if you are willing to motor in the late summer when the NW winds are lighter. Good idea until you run into a string of crab pots, get a shot of pot line wraped around your prop and now you are back to sailing................ if that is possible. If you think dodging lobsta pots are bad, try dungeness pots. Bob |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Bob wrote:
tlindly wrote: I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. Mistake #1: old boat. you better know it inside and out and have just finished a total refit in the last 5 years. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. Summer: winds out of theNW unless some low system at hand then storms are out of the SW. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Yes if heading south Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I'll put that in your obituary. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Lets see, how about the phrase, "grave yard of the Pacific." Does that give you any indication of what youre heading into??!?!? Anyone made this passage before? Yep. Grew up in Newport, OR. Step dad commercial fished the area. I worked the summers with him as a kid. too many dead friends to list here. Any suggestions? If youneed to get the boat north in NOV: 1) give it to a deliver skipper. there is a guy named Bob in WInchester Bay, OR on an Ingrid who is good. But he will most likely tell you forget about it. Why? because he is over 60 yo and knows what he is doing. he got that old doing things right. 2) sail to Hawaii........ enjoy yourself and wait till June. Sail to BC then turn right for a down wind blow. Is there a better forum for this question? The bars are far and few between and closed often in the winter (NOV). the coast is a series of "sandy cell beaches" seperated by basalt headlands. even if you are lucky enough to get blown on a sandy beach the surf will tear you apart. for example, a friend of mine got his truck stuck on the beach one winter night loading wood. One tide excahnge left only an engine and transmitin on a frame. Oh, there was one rim, no tire, left on the rear axel. Are you getting the picture yet? Bob thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Bob, you missed this last one. Since I don't have much experience, crewing for this gentleman sounds like the perfect way to get some. DT |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:52:07 -0500, dt wrote:
=-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Bob, you missed this last one. Since I don't have much experience, crewing for this gentleman sounds like the perfect way to get some. I assume you're kidding, right? |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
dt wrote: Bob, you missed this last one. Since I don't have much experience, crewing for this gentleman sounds like the perfect way to get some. DT Okay......... thats it. This has to be a troll. One point for you, I bit. Gullible bob |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:52:07 -0500, dt wrote: =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... Bob, you missed this last one. Since I don't have much experience, crewing for this gentleman sounds like the perfect way to get some. I assume you're kidding, right? What, going out on an old boat, with a guy who doesn't seem to know what he's doing, in probably bad weather on a definitely dangerous coast isn't the best way to start? Yes, I'm kidding. ;-) DT (still stickin' to small lakes, myself) |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
Well,
thanks for all of the responses. Coast pilot data is the best reccomendation I got from you all. Noaa had old data but still couldn't find trend data there... I was rather hoping to here from someonewho had made the trip, but alas... I haven't been to the library yet, I guess that's next. thanks again, tom =-== tlindly wrote: I'm going to sail a 60 year old, 48' (LOA) ketch from SFO to Seattle. I was wondering what the best time of year would be for a trip of this nature. One fellow told me that now (Sept.) would be a pretty good time but Life is going to keep me hear untill Nov. at the least. I've been trying to search for prevailing wind patterns on the pacific coast but there doesn't seem to be much info out there (or perhaps google is just not what I thought it ws). Anyone made this passage before? Any suggestions? Is there a better forum for this question? thanks, tom =-== p.s. looking for crew for this trip... |
SFBay to Puget Sound, what's the best time of year?
tlindly wrote: Well, thanks for all of the responses. Coast pilot data is the best reccomendation I got from you all. At first reading I thought this a sincere post...... Later I thought this guy has to be trolling for some good chuckles. Now I am back to thinking, "...ya gota be kidding...?!?!" If you actually looking for information and not just trolling your above statement has just shown why you will most likely perish on said voyage. Look, lots of people offered some very specific advice and resourses and all you can say is the CP No. 7 was the only thing helpful you found here. Pull your head out of your ass and take a look around. A skill you will certainly need if heading north in November. And that back handed comment about the only thing useful found here. Sheesh........... Below are a few words that NOAA uses to describe NO7 on one of their pages. What can you take out of the very first words used to describe the area that NO7 covers?????? "Coast Pilot 7 - 38th Edition, 2006 Coast Pilot 7 covers the rugged United States coast of California, Oregon and Washington..." Bob |
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