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This is what I have, with a 25HP Yamaha.
http://www.bossboats.com/default.asp?Page=Yachtsman_10 It's a RBB, rigid buoyancy boat. Built like an inflatable, except the tubes are fiberglass. Stowage in the tubes, no worrying about air pressure, works well for me. -- Keith __ "After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him... The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut." - Will Rogers "Parallax" wrote in message om... "just me" wrote in message news:TEgYa.83823$YN5.60652@sccrnsc01... I my opinion it simply depends on space and weight. I personally use an 10' air floor Zodiac. It weighs 65#. I use a 10hp 2 stroke merc. It weighs 75#. I can pretty easily lift, move, stow it by myself without much trouble. Rigged a 4 point lift and use a halyard if I want ot put it on deck. It ain't perfect, but what is! "Over40pirate" wrote in message ... If we had enough room on the fore deck for a 9' Boston Whaler, that would be my choice, with a 15 hp motor. I was in a friends, and he and I (est. 475# total) got up on a plane easily, and it was a dry ride! Our Avon 10'er is nice but wet in anything but calm conditions. My .02 With our 28' S2, we use a 8' Nautilus hard dinghy with oars. It can only handle two adults when being rowed or two adults and a kid but it really rows well. It is dificult to get back aboard but I use the jib halyard and have gotten s sort of system to do this. It stows on the fordeck over hte hatch and in the summer causes some sort of draft where the V berth is considerably cooler than the rest of the boat. Now that we have another child, and bigger kids, we have tried using an inflatable kayak along with the Nautilus with limited success. The Nautilus tows very poorly so we dont do that. The Nautilus can be rigged for sailing but we have never done that while cruising as its sailing performance is poor at best. I suspect I will eventually go with an inflatable with lower hp engine. How long does it take to onflate one of these? DBO "Ragtime" |
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I don't think that there is a "best dinghy" for the simple reason that we
all have different ideas about cruising. I like small and spartan, you might like big & fancy. My perfect dinghy is a simple 9 ft pram with a 3hp motor small, easy to row and ugly enough not to be a thiefs first choice. "Keith" wrote in message ... This is what I have, with a 25HP Yamaha. http://www.bossboats.com/default.asp?Page=Yachtsman_10 It's a RBB, rigid buoyancy boat. Built like an inflatable, except the tubes are fiberglass. Stowage in the tubes, no worrying about air pressure, works well for me. -- Keith __ "After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him... The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut." - Will Rogers "Parallax" wrote in message om... "just me" wrote in message news:TEgYa.83823$YN5.60652@sccrnsc01... I my opinion it simply depends on space and weight. I personally use an 10' air floor Zodiac. It weighs 65#. I use a 10hp 2 stroke merc. It weighs 75#. I can pretty easily lift, move, stow it by myself without much trouble. Rigged a 4 point lift and use a halyard if I want ot put it on deck. It ain't perfect, but what is! "Over40pirate" wrote in message ... If we had enough room on the fore deck for a 9' Boston Whaler, that would be my choice, with a 15 hp motor. I was in a friends, and he and I (est. 475# total) got up on a plane easily, and it was a dry ride! Our Avon 10'er is nice but wet in anything but calm conditions. My .02 With our 28' S2, we use a 8' Nautilus hard dinghy with oars. It can only handle two adults when being rowed or two adults and a kid but it really rows well. It is dificult to get back aboard but I use the jib halyard and have gotten s sort of system to do this. It stows on the fordeck over hte hatch and in the summer causes some sort of draft where the V berth is considerably cooler than the rest of the boat. Now that we have another child, and bigger kids, we have tried using an inflatable kayak along with the Nautilus with limited success. The Nautilus tows very poorly so we dont do that. The Nautilus can be rigged for sailing but we have never done that while cruising as its sailing performance is poor at best. I suspect I will eventually go with an inflatable with lower hp engine. How long does it take to onflate one of these? DBO "Ragtime" |
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Andre Venter wrote:
I don't think that there is a "best dinghy" for the simple reason that we all have different ideas about cruising. I like small and spartan, you might like big & fancy. My perfect dinghy is a simple 9 ft pram with a 3hp motor small, easy to row and ugly enough not to be a thiefs first choice. I forget whether I got "in" on this conversation, so apologize if I'm repeating, but I'm a real fan of the PortaBote. Folds up to the size of a 8, 10 or 12' surf board, folds out to 5' wide and rows and powers almost as well as a proper hard dink. A 4 HP engine drives it at 12-15 knots with 200 or so pounds onboard, an indication of how easily it's driven. Handles 5 full sized adults in comfort and they don't get wet at speed, so it's usually the raftup's taxi of choice. Our 12.5 patiently sits on the side of the foredeck for whenever we need it, but essentially takes no space (except the seats, which we can comfortably stow well out of the way in the engine compartment). -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Denis Marier wrote:
I do not like to handle an outboard engine. Some of my friend have 9.9 outboard engine stowed on the stern rail. Some leave it mounted on their inflatable dinghies. To carry gasoline on board defeats the purpose of have an inboard diesel engine. Agreed, but many people seem to feel that outboard mix & spare cans of gas are no greater hazard than propane. The hassle & mess & smell are what convince me that I do not want an outboard powered dink. Andre Venter wrote: I don't think that there is a "best dinghy" for the simple reason that we all have different ideas about cruising. I like small and spartan, you might like big & fancy. My perfect dinghy is a simple 9 ft pram with a 3hp motor small, easy to row and ugly enough not to be a thiefs first choice. Jere Lull wrote: I forget whether I got "in" on this conversation, so apologize if I'm repeating, but I'm a real fan of the PortaBote. It sounds like a great solution, especially to the limited space issue. I don't have any experience with them other than watching others, but the flexy hull would make me a bit nervous. Plus (please don't take this personally) I don't like their looks. Over the years we've had & used almost every other sort of dinghy, and while I really liked using a canoe, it is not really an optimum working tender for long term cruising. Given the expense of a new boat, the tippiness & heaviness of a Walker Bay (plus I still don't like thier looks either), I have designed my own dinghy and will have it built. It will be 95% as stable as an inflatable, will row better than anything short of a racing shell, will have classic good looks (by which I mean it will favorably remind the most persnickety afficianado of an old-time Whitehall or wherry, and simply beautiful to anybody else), and it's weight will be 25 lbs or less. It won't be cheap, but it won't cost as much as a new hi-end inflatable & it's engine. I'm kind of bemused that other people aren't doing the same thing, given the amount of time & money that goes into cruising dinghies. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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DSK wrote: Denis Marier wrote: I do not like to handle an outboard engine. Some of my friend have 9.9 outboard engine stowed on the stern rail. Some leave it mounted on their inflatable dinghies. To carry gasoline on board defeats the purpose of have an inboard diesel engine. Agreed, but many people seem to feel that outboard mix & spare cans of gas are no greater hazard than propane. The hassle & mess & smell are what convince me that I do not want an outboard powered dink. Andre Venter wrote: I don't think that there is a "best dinghy" for the simple reason that we all have different ideas about cruising. I like small and spartan, you might like big & fancy. My perfect dinghy is a simple 9 ft pram with a 3hp motor small, easy to row and ugly enough not to be a thiefs first choice. Jere Lull wrote: I forget whether I got "in" on this conversation, so apologize if I'm repeating, but I'm a real fan of the PortaBote. It sounds like a great solution, especially to the limited space issue. I don't have any experience with them other than watching others, but the flexy hull would make me a bit nervous. Plus (please don't take this personally) I don't like their looks. See above - you do not WANT to have a nice looking dinghy. You want a funny looking dinghy - a MEMORABLY funny looking dinghy. A dinghy that makes you cringe to know that anyone would associate you with it. A dinghy that everyone who as seen it once will remember forever. The flexy bottom of the portabote is far preferable to me to the inflatable - I just don't like inflatable - even the nice big ones. We have an inflatable (a Nissan I think), but I far and away prefer the portabote even though we have to assemble the portabote and the dinghy is right there on davits. Over the years we've had & used almost every other sort of dinghy, and while I really liked using a canoe, it is not really an optimum working tender for long term cruising. Given the expense of a new boat, the tippiness & heaviness of a Walker Bay (plus I still don't like thier looks either), I have designed my own dinghy and will have it built. It will be 95% as stable as an inflatable, will row better than anything short of a racing shell, will have classic good looks (by which I mean it will favorably remind the most persnickety afficianado of an old-time Whitehall or wherry, and simply beautiful to anybody else), and it's weight will be 25 lbs or less. It won't be cheap, but it won't cost as much as a new hi-end inflatable & it's engine. I'm kind of bemused that other people aren't doing the same thing, given the amount of time & money that goes into cruising dinghies. Fresh Breezes- Doug King grandma Rosalie |
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Dingy Dogs.
Well, not exactly. But years ago in order to work on my pier I fashioned a rope sling rig between two 5 gal plastic pales. I sat my 12 foot aluminum row boat between them so the rope rig carried part of the load of the boat. The extra 10 gallons of floatation on the sides added a surprising amount of stability for working out of the boat. I can only imagine that the dogs would be much better. Ron |
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Yea, as a matter of fact, my dink gasoline is stored in the propane locker.
-- Keith __ Dogs have owners; Cats have staff. "DSK" wrote in message ... Denis Marier wrote: I do not like to handle an outboard engine. Some of my friend have 9.9 outboard engine stowed on the stern rail. Some leave it mounted on their inflatable dinghies. To carry gasoline on board defeats the purpose of have an inboard diesel engine. Agreed, but many people seem to feel that outboard mix & spare cans of gas are no greater hazard than propane. The hassle & mess & smell are what convince me that I do not want an outboard powered dink. Andre Venter wrote: I don't think that there is a "best dinghy" for the simple reason that we all have different ideas about cruising. I like small and spartan, you might like big & fancy. My perfect dinghy is a simple 9 ft pram with a 3hp motor small, easy to row and ugly enough not to be a thiefs first choice. Jere Lull wrote: I forget whether I got "in" on this conversation, so apologize if I'm repeating, but I'm a real fan of the PortaBote. It sounds like a great solution, especially to the limited space issue. I don't have any experience with them other than watching others, but the flexy hull would make me a bit nervous. Plus (please don't take this personally) I don't like their looks. Over the years we've had & used almost every other sort of dinghy, and while I really liked using a canoe, it is not really an optimum working tender for long term cruising. Given the expense of a new boat, the tippiness & heaviness of a Walker Bay (plus I still don't like thier looks either), I have designed my own dinghy and will have it built. It will be 95% as stable as an inflatable, will row better than anything short of a racing shell, will have classic good looks (by which I mean it will favorably remind the most persnickety afficianado of an old-time Whitehall or wherry, and simply beautiful to anybody else), and it's weight will be 25 lbs or less. It won't be cheap, but it won't cost as much as a new hi-end inflatable & it's engine. I'm kind of bemused that other people aren't doing the same thing, given the amount of time & money that goes into cruising dinghies. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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As others have said, there is no best dinghy as it depends on your
circumstances. But here is what we use and why: Caribe 9X with 9.8 hp Nissan with flat pitch prop and Doel-Fin We cruised the east coast and Bahamas last year and needed a dinghy that could go reasonable far and fast and carry two adults, a 40 lb dog and some groceries/laundry/etc. The above rig will do that and plane with all of the load. It wouldn't plane with all of this stuff without the flat pitch prop and Doel-Fin. We carry the dinghy on aft davits so the short length is a plus. If this is not an issue I would go up to 10 feet- it will plane easier. The Caribe is a bit heavier than some but it is built tough- look at the heavy molded rub rail for example. And it is hypalon which is essential for long term storage in the sun. The X version indicates a double layer floor. The lighter RIBs have no floor but we used one like this for a while and found that walking on the sloped floor was difficult and the double layer floor was well worth it. If I had to manually haul it up regularly I might go with the lighter models, but on davits an extra 20 lbs or so is tolerable. The Nissan is one of the lightest 10 hp outboards and has a bullet proof reputation. I have also used the Yamaha 10 hp. It is much heavier but I think is better built. I particularly liked the front mounted shifter. David |
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Just to show the other end of the spectrum, we use a 17 ft. Key West center
counsel with a 90 yammy. Best of Both worlds. Trawler and go fast. Sterling |
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