Kettle to boil water
 

I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a Origo
non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to bring
water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I wonder
what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a boil
means more propane.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote in message
...
I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a Origo
non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a boil
means more propane.



The kettle you've been using should work just fine. Personally, I prefer
stainless steel, and I think you'll find that it retains heat longer than
aluminum, but to each their own.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote in
:

I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to
boil water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a
Origo non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a
boil means more propane.




http://tinyurl.com/kepnp

Sunbeam Hot Shot - $20. Makes 16 oz of boiling water in 1 minute and 20
seconds off the 1KW inverter, just right for hot drinks. Its
construction makes it easy to bungee to the bulkhead near the sink on a
semi-permanent basis. Uses 850 watts/13V=65A x .0222hrs = 1.45AH. Just
like the microwave heating a sandwich, it uses almost no battery power at
all between charging cycles. Propane usage = ZERO. No hauling gas for
it down that long dock.

Oh, that little bugger makes wonderful instant coffee for the
midwatch....(c;

The tank is aluminum and the tight fitting cover will keep the water from
slopping out AFTER you get it loaded. At sea, we leave it in the sink.
The electrics and heater are all, unlike a coffee pot, in the TOP of it
so leaving it in the sink for a fast fillup that may spill into the sink
is fine. As you are going to empty it every time you use it, unlike a
kettle with water left in it sliding around on the stove, it's no hazard
just sitting there. It weighs lots less than the empty kettle and stores
vertically in minimal space.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Kettle to boil water
 

The Sunbeam Hot Shot - $20 appears to offer good result as a low cost.
What I will have to do is to install an inverter. At this time, all I have
is a low cost 150 watts output inverter purchased at Canadian Tires.
Conversely, I should look for a better integrated inverter when I buy my
next boat.

"Larry" wrote in message
...
wrote in
:

I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to
boil water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a
Origo non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a
boil means more propane.




http://tinyurl.com/kepnp

Sunbeam Hot Shot - $20. Makes 16 oz of boiling water in 1 minute and 20
seconds off the 1KW inverter, just right for hot drinks. Its
construction makes it easy to bungee to the bulkhead near the sink on a
semi-permanent basis. Uses 850 watts/13V=65A x .0222hrs = 1.45AH. Just
like the microwave heating a sandwich, it uses almost no battery power at
all between charging cycles. Propane usage = ZERO. No hauling gas for
it down that long dock.

Oh, that little bugger makes wonderful instant coffee for the
midwatch....(c;

The tank is aluminum and the tight fitting cover will keep the water from
slopping out AFTER you get it loaded. At sea, we leave it in the sink.
The electrics and heater are all, unlike a coffee pot, in the TOP of it
so leaving it in the sink for a fast fillup that may spill into the sink
is fine. As you are going to empty it every time you use it, unlike a
kettle with water left in it sliding around on the stove, it's no hazard
just sitting there. It weighs lots less than the empty kettle and stores
vertically in minimal space.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Kettle to boil water
 

Thanks for your feedback. My old kettle has been banged around in heavy
weather and still works. Over the years I learned that with the aluminium
kettles they tend to leak at the bottom seam after being banged around too
many times.

Yesterday, I made tests and learned that my home GE electric kettle boiled a
1 quart of water in four minutes and 30 secs.

The expensive SS Langustina with a thick bottom plate did the same at max on
our electric stove top in seven m and 18 secs. The Canadian Tires SS kettle
with thin bottom boiled the 1 quart in eight m and 38 secs.

Testing on propane or alcohol would give different results in timing.



"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

wrote in message
...
I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a
Origo non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a
boil means more propane.



The kettle you've been using should work just fine. Personally, I prefer
stainless steel, and I think you'll find that it retains heat longer than
aluminum, but to each their own.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote in news:OYzIg.2718$9u.47781@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

Conversely, I should look for a better integrated inverter when I buy my
next boat.



I disagree. That's like buying a TV-Stereo-Bar with party lights. When
the FM radio dies, you have to buy another TV, which is why they no longer
make massive integrated entertainment centers. The buyers finally wised
up.

Nope, when the inverter goes, I don't want to have to buy another $1800
battery charger. Keep them separate. Our 1KW inverter came from the main
chandler, Radio Shack, on sale. It was so cheap I can't afford to fix it
when it finally gives up living in the bilge with the Perkins. I pulled
the control panel off it and soldered a pair of wires to its little power
switch. I ran the wires to the NAV station where I put a tiny little
miniswitch in handy reach, next to a neon indicator light that runs off the
AC power it produces so I can see 1) it's on and producing power and 2) the
light looks about the right brightness and is stable, an indication of the
power condition coming out of it before I plug something expensive-to-
repair into it. Works great....CHEAP!

Spending $2K on some fancy charger/inverter makes my hiney burn....(c;

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote in
:

Yesterday, I made tests and learned that my home GE electric kettle
boiled a 1 quart of water in four minutes and 30 secs.



To compare the load:

That pot probably draws 1500 watts divided by 13V = 115A x 4.5 mins = 8.6
AH off the battery capacity to boil 32 oz, 2 pots in the Hot Shot.

1.45 x 2 pots is 2.9 AH compared to 8.6 AH. I think the disparity is the
very low thermal mass of the Hot Shot's boiler, directly coupled to its
fast heating element outside the boiler under it. The boiler is very thin
aluminum with automatic shutoff thermostat. (You reset the thermostat to
boil the next load.) The kettle, on the other hand, probably has an
internal calrod metal beast to heat up along with all that exposed metal of
the kettle itself before the water's going to boil, a much bigger thermal
load.

The Hot Shot's boiler is also insulated by the plastic case around it.
It'll keep water at near boiling temperature a long time after it shuts
down.

Our rec.boats.cruising thermal engineers will be working on this problem,
day and night....(c;

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Kettle to boil water
 

When I had diesel engine problem I bough a 12 v, 700 cranking amps, 22 Ah,
20 pounds mobile power pack at Canadian Tires.
It works fine to start an engine and to operate a radar and GPS when the
main batteries are dead.
I wonder if I can use this Power Pack to operate the Hot Shot's boiler?
Using an estimated wattage consumption of 9 watts for a radio or dept finder
it will last approx. 24 hours. They say for 110v power an inverter is
needed. As an example they say a 100 watts light will last an estimated 2
hours. This power pack is rechargeable using a 12 volts receptacle. The
continuous charging time is normally 24 - 72 hours. Well by the looks of it
this power pack may only be good for emergency. Plugging the inverter
directly into the 12 volt circuit system appears to be the best way to do
it. Or the power pack could be connected to the boat electrical system on a
permanent basis?


"Larry" wrote in message
...
wrote in
:

Yesterday, I made tests and learned that my home GE electric kettle
boiled a 1 quart of water in four minutes and 30 secs.



To compare the load:

That pot probably draws 1500 watts divided by 13V = 115A x 4.5 mins = 8.6
AH off the battery capacity to boil 32 oz, 2 pots in the Hot Shot.

1.45 x 2 pots is 2.9 AH compared to 8.6 AH. I think the disparity is the
very low thermal mass of the Hot Shot's boiler, directly coupled to its
fast heating element outside the boiler under it. The boiler is very thin
aluminum with automatic shutoff thermostat. (You reset the thermostat to
boil the next load.) The kettle, on the other hand, probably has an
internal calrod metal beast to heat up along with all that exposed metal
of
the kettle itself before the water's going to boil, a much bigger thermal
load.

The Hot Shot's boiler is also insulated by the plastic case around it.
It'll keep water at near boiling temperature a long time after it shuts
down.

Our rec.boats.cruising thermal engineers will be working on this problem,
day and night....(c;

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote in message
...
When I had diesel engine problem I bough a 12 v, 700 cranking amps, 22 Ah,
20 pounds mobile power pack at Canadian Tires.
It works fine to start an engine and to operate a radar and GPS when the
main batteries are dead.
I wonder if I can use this Power Pack to operate the Hot Shot's boiler?
Using an estimated wattage consumption of 9 watts for a radio or dept
finder it will last approx. 24 hours. They say for 110v power an inverter
is needed. As an example they say a 100 watts light will last an
estimated 2 hours. This power pack is rechargeable using a 12 volts
receptacle. The continuous charging time is normally 24 - 72 hours. Well
by the looks of it this power pack may only be good for emergency.
Plugging the inverter directly into the 12 volt circuit system appears to
be the best way to do it. Or the power pack could be connected to the
boat electrical system on a permanent basis?


Most likely, the power pack is NOT a deep cycle battery, and would suffer
greatly from being drawn down that much. Its purpose is to provide a short
burst of power to start your engine, and ONLY that. If you want to go
electric with another battery, you'd be much better served by adding another
deep cycle battery, 100 or more amp hours, to your house bank.

Kettle to boil water
 

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:50:05 -0400, Larry wrote:

Nope, when the inverter goes, I don't want to have to buy another $1800
battery charger. Keep them separate.

Bad advice in my opinion. Cheaper perhaps, but much less capable and
convenient.

There are few, if any, battery chargers with the amperage output
offered by the inverter chargers. When you are trying to recharge a
400 to 800 Amp-Hour battery bank you need a charger with some serious
power.

Also, the convenience of having automatic transfer switching,
integrated with your onboard AC power, is hard to imagine unless
you've tried it.

Kettle to boil water
 

The most efficient way is an electric kettle and the best is a Russel-Hobbs
in stainless (British). They will boil a liter less than 2 minutes, but it
draws a lot of current. You must have a generator. Forget batteries.
Steve

wrote in message
...
I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a Origo
non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a boil
means more propane.

Kettle to boil water
 

Steve Lusardi wrote:
The most efficient way is an electric kettle and the best is a Russel-Hobbs
in stainless (British). They will boil a liter less than 2 minutes, but it
draws a lot of current. You must have a generator. Forget batteries.
Steve


If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Better to burn the fuel for heat in a stove directly than to:
burn the fuel for heat in an engine
use the engine to turn a generator
use the generator to charge a battery
use the battery to run an inverter
use the inverter to power an electric stove

bob

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:56:57 -0700, RW Salnick
wrote:

If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Better to burn the fuel for heat in a stove directly than to:
burn the fuel for heat in an engine
use the engine to turn a generator
use the generator to charge a battery
use the battery to run an inverter
use the inverter to power an electric stove

Theoretically true but if you have the inverter and batteries, you are
trying to mimize generator run time, and that is a worthwhile goal in
my experience. Electric stoves are a great way to cook if you have
the right equipment.

Kettle to boil water
 

If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves. One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.

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"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves. One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.




Diesel is actually a very good cooking stove fuel, as long as you are in
northern climes. Nice dry heat, and economical. But it also strikes me as
inefficient to run an engine to power an electric appliance to boil water.
If you're running the engine anyway, fine -- but to start it up and run it
JUST to boil water? Seems silly.

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Kettle to boil water
 

Bill Kearney wrote:
If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves. One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.
I'll admit I'm not a fan of gasoline stoves (or engines, for that
matter) but what's the problem with diesel? I had friends that had a
Dinkinson for many years and liked it.

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Is the Revere Ware, S/S teakettle bottom copper clad or solid?

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
ink.net...
wrote:

I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use
to boil
water while cruising.

Get a Revere Ware, S/S teakettle with a copper bottom.

Throw in a handful of glass marbles, pea gravel, etc, which will prevent
calcium deposits from forming when the water boils and maintain the heat
transfer characteristics.

Lew

Kettle to boil water
 

Bill Kearney wrote:
If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.


Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves. One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.



I have a diesel cook stove (Dickenson Pacific) that is absolutely
wonderful except in the summer when we use a non-pressurized alcohol
stove. They are both very practical and safe. I'll argue with you.

Gary

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Kettle to boil water
 

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Get a Revere Ware, S/S teakettle with a copper bottom.

Throw in a handful of glass marbles, pea gravel, etc, which will
prevent calcium deposits from forming when the water boils and
maintain the heat transfer characteristics.

I'll second that, mine's 11 years old. Peeked in it and saw no
deposits, but then I don't use hard water to make coffee!

Kettle to boil water
 

Bill Kearney wrote:
If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.


Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves. One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.


I think his point was that you need fuel to burn the stove anyway, why
not carry alcohol or propane instead of losing efficiency through the
inverter chain?

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:gdYIg.427$Wf3.310
@newsfe02.lga:

I think his point was that you need fuel to burn the stove anyway, why
not carry alcohol or propane instead of losing efficiency through the
inverter chain?



Because you don't have to haul tanks of inverter power down the dock in a
car out of the foreign taxi you had to take to get the damned tanks filled.

Diesel to charge the batteries and run the inverter are at the dock and
you're going to charge the batteries, anyways....

The less propane searching and hauling the better, eh?

--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

Kettle to boil water
 

On 28 Aug 2006 21:02:07 -0700, "Mark" wrote:


Lew Hodgett wrote:

Get a Revere Ware, S/S teakettle with a copper bottom.

Throw in a handful of glass marbles, pea gravel, etc, which will
prevent calcium deposits from forming when the water boils and
maintain the heat transfer characteristics.

I'll second that, mine's 11 years old. Peeked in it and saw no
deposits, but then I don't use hard water to make coffee!


I can't remember if the copper bottom stretches through to the inside
of the bottom - I think not.
IF it does however, it is better to let the copper attract some cover,
not keep it bright.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

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You must drink an awful lot of coffe
to make such experiments worthwile. :)


wrote:
Thanks for your feedback. My old kettle has been banged around in heavy
weather and still works. Over the years I learned that with the aluminium
kettles they tend to leak at the bottom seam after being banged around too
many times.

Yesterday, I made tests and learned that my home GE electric kettle boiled a
1 quart of water in four minutes and 30 secs.

The expensive SS Langustina with a thick bottom plate did the same at max on
our electric stove top in seven m and 18 secs. The Canadian Tires SS kettle
with thin bottom boiled the 1 quart in eight m and 38 secs.

Testing on propane or alcohol would give different results in timing.



"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

wrote in message
...
I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a
Origo non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a
boil means more propane.



The kettle you've been using should work just fine. Personally, I prefer
stainless steel, and I think you'll find that it retains heat longer than
aluminum, but to each their own.

Kettle to boil water
 

Good observation "You must drink an awful lot of coffee to make such
experiments worthwhile. :)"
We drink on average 2 to 3 cups per day. The issue is fuel. With my
existing boat I can only carry so much.
We cruise the St. John river system, Bay of Fundy, South shore of Nova
Scotia and the State of Maine. The Marinas are few and far between. They
do not always have alcohol or propane. During the hot summer months a non
pressurized alcohol stove, even when not in use, will lose fuel by
evaporation. Hopefully I will have two ten pounds propane tanks on board my
next boat.



wrote in message
oups.com...

You must drink an awful lot of coffe
to make such experiments worthwile. :)


wrote:
Thanks for your feedback. My old kettle has been banged around in heavy
weather and still works. Over the years I learned that with the aluminium
kettles they tend to leak at the bottom seam after being banged around
too
many times.

Yesterday, I made tests and learned that my home GE electric kettle
boiled a
1 quart of water in four minutes and 30 secs.

The expensive SS Langustina with a thick bottom plate did the same at max
on
our electric stove top in seven m and 18 secs. The Canadian Tires SS
kettle
with thin bottom boiled the 1 quart in eight m and 38 secs.

Testing on propane or alcohol would give different results in timing.



"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

wrote in message
...
I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to
boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a
Origo non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a
boil means more propane.



The kettle you've been using should work just fine. Personally, I
prefer
stainless steel, and I think you'll find that it retains heat longer
than
aluminum, but to each their own.

Kettle to boil water
 

Larry wrote:
wrote in
:

I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to
boil water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a
Origo non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to
bring water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I
wonder what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a
boil means more propane.




http://tinyurl.com/kepnp

Sunbeam Hot Shot - $20. Makes 16 oz of boiling water in 1 minute and 20
seconds off the 1KW inverter, just right for hot drinks. Its
construction makes it easy to bungee to the bulkhead near the sink on a
semi-permanent basis. Uses 850 watts/13V=65A x .0222hrs = 1.45AH. Just
like the microwave heating a sandwich, it uses almost no battery power at
all between charging cycles. Propane usage = ZERO. No hauling gas for
it down that long dock.

Oh, that little bugger makes wonderful instant coffee for the
midwatch....(c;

The tank is aluminum and the tight fitting cover will keep the water from
slopping out AFTER you get it loaded. At sea, we leave it in the sink.
The electrics and heater are all, unlike a coffee pot, in the TOP of it
so leaving it in the sink for a fast fillup that may spill into the sink
is fine. As you are going to empty it every time you use it, unlike a
kettle with water left in it sliding around on the stove, it's no hazard
just sitting there. It weighs lots less than the empty kettle and stores
vertically in minimal space.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

On my old boat I installed a 110VAC/12VDC instahot hot water maker
in the galley, it worked like a champ. I got one intended for an RV, it
was like $100, and no need for an inverter. It was very simple to
install.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote:
I wonder what would be the best and most economical kettle to use to boil
water while cruising.
For year I have used an aluminium enclosed kettle with a whilst on a Origo
non pressurized alcohol stove.
I did not any better ( and still do) and was satisfy with the time to bring
water to a boil, the pouring and the filling.
Today I am looking at propane and the purchase of a new kettle and I wonder
what would be the best buy?
On a long cruise/crossing the more time it takes to bring water to a boil
means more propane.

for a LOT of water, i would use my pressure cooker. :) it gets the job
done fast. but for a small amount of water i would not bother bringing
it out, a small amount boils fast no matter what you put it in.

Kettle to boil water
 

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:24:36 +0000, Brian Whatcott wrote:

On 28 Aug 2006 21:02:07 -0700, "Mark" wrote:

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Get a Revere Ware, S/S teakettle with a copper bottom.

Throw in a handful of glass marbles, pea gravel, etc, which will
prevent calcium deposits from forming when the water boils and
maintain the heat transfer characteristics.

I'll second that, mine's 11 years old. Peeked in it and saw no
deposits, but then I don't use hard water to make coffee!

I'll third that! It's the best kettle design ever, with one-hand
operation. Unfortunately it's becoming hard to find.

I can't remember if the copper bottom stretches through to the inside of
the bottom - I think not.
IF it does however, it is better to let the copper attract some cover,
not keep it bright.

AFAIK it's all stainless steel, with copper cladding/plating on the
bottom.

Matt O.

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:12:02 -0400, Bill Kearney wrote:

If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves.

I agree about gasoline, but diesel stoves have been used successfully
aboard boats for decades, if not a century. The only problem is they're
smoky and smelly. Kerosene is the same but a little cleaner.

One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.

Alcohol fires can be put out with water. Propane is fine as long as you
use good equipment and keep it in good repair. If it was really so
dangerous, boats would be exploding all over the place -- and they aren't.

Matt O.

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At purchased a new SS kettle. When I pick up the kettle I had to be
careful. Many kettle bottom rolled up rims were kinked. On the bottom was
the name "REVERE" (Easy pour model) made in China stamped in the stainless
steel.
I was all excited and anxious to get home to test it. The boiling test were
disappointing. On an electrical stove top it took 8 minutes and 50 seconds
to bring 1 quart of water to a boil. When pouring boiled water into a cup
with the Easy pour "REVERE" the steam burned my hand. My wife tried it with
the same result. I then returned it to the store. At customer service the
lady asked me why?
As I was about to tell them why the lady said you do not have to tell me I
know why, It burns your hand when pouring!!




"Matt O'Toole" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:12:02 -0400, Bill Kearney wrote:

If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves.

I agree about gasoline, but diesel stoves have been used successfully
aboard boats for decades, if not a century. The only problem is they're
smoky and smelly. Kerosene is the same but a little cleaner.

One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.

Alcohol fires can be put out with water. Propane is fine as long as you
use good equipment and keep it in good repair. If it was really so
dangerous, boats would be exploding all over the place -- and they aren't.

Matt O.

Kettle to boil water
 

wrote in message
...
At purchased a new SS kettle. When I pick up the kettle I had to be
careful. Many kettle bottom rolled up rims were kinked. On the bottom
was the name "REVERE" (Easy pour model) made in China stamped in the
stainless steel.
I was all excited and anxious to get home to test it. The boiling test
were disappointing. On an electrical stove top it took 8 minutes and 50
seconds to bring 1 quart of water to a boil. When pouring boiled water
into a cup with the Easy pour "REVERE" the steam burned my hand. My wife
tried it with the same result. I then returned it to the store. At
customer service the lady asked me why?
As I was about to tell them why the lady said you do not have to tell me I
know why, It burns your hand when pouring!!




"Matt O'Toole" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:12:02 -0400, Bill Kearney wrote:

If you have a generator, then you must have fuel.

Wrong. It would be incredibly impractical, not to mention outright
dangerous, to use gasoline or diesel as a fuel for cooking stoves.

I agree about gasoline, but diesel stoves have been used successfully
aboard boats for decades, if not a century. The only problem is they're
smoky and smelly. Kerosene is the same but a little cleaner.

One
could also argue against propane or alcohol stoves for the other dangers
they present.

Alcohol fires can be put out with water. Propane is fine as long as you
use good equipment and keep it in good repair. If it was really so
dangerous, boats would be exploding all over the place -- and they
aren't.

Matt O.



If it's any help, I have a Le Cruset kettle that I've been quite happy with
for many years, both on the boat and off. No seams that I can find, nicely
balanced and a nice loud whistle. I'm not offering to sell it, but you might
take a look at new ones. :-)

Kettle to boil water
 

Kettle to boil water
 

"Might try revereware.com for #."
Thanks for the URL and the Modle number.
I have looked at it and it appears to fit the bill.
Here in eastern Canada I have not seen any model #3527017.
I have added this one to my shopping list. Maybe when visit eastern US I'll
have more luck,
If not I'll try Amazon.


"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
nk.net...
wrote:
At purchased a new SS kettle. When I pick up the kettle I had to be
careful. Many kettle bottom rolled up rims were kinked. On the
bottom was
the name "REVERE" (Easy pour model) made in China stamped in the
stainless
steel.
I was all excited and anxious to get home to test it. The boiling
test were
disappointing. On an electrical stove top it took 8 minutes and 50
seconds
to bring 1 quart of water to a boil. When pouring boiled water into
a cup
with the Easy pour "REVERE" the steam burned my hand. My wife tried
it with
the same result. I then returned it to the store. At customer
service the
lady asked me why?
As I was about to tell them why the lady said you do not have to tell
me I
know why, It burns your hand when pouring!!

An unfortunate experience.

What you are describing would not happen with the product I'm describing,
a whistling tea kettle, maybe it was a different Revere product.

Might try revereware.com for #3527017.

Even Amazon has it for $25.00

Lew


Revere was bought out by Corning a few years a go and all manufacturing
went off shore.