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Rosalie B. August 15th 06 05:42 PM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Rosalie B. wrote:

"Ryk" wrote in message
. ..

I've got a Garmin GPS76 at the helm that provides all the
functionality I really need, backed up with a direct connection to the
PC running Fugawi at the nav station.


One thing that I do for my husband that you might do for yourself is
to put a route or previous track on the computer. The routing is a
big blue line, and it is pretty easy to whether the ship is on the
route or not. If it is in the ICW or someplace where we have been
before, and where the route twists and turns a lot, I put the previous
track (which I have saved) up on the computer.

These are camera shots of the computer screen with anchorages where
the boat track has been marked green
http://p.vtourist.com/953705-Chart_o...ille_Beach.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/1295370-chart_...ed-Footman.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/952031-Chart_o...-Reedville.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/953094-Chart_s...Deltaville.jpg

This one shows our track to a marina
http://p.vtourist.com/953621-ICW_cha...k-Oriental.jpg
And to a new marina that isn't on the charts.
http://p.vtourist.com/953149-Chart_s...-Hampstead.jpg

I can't find any shots of the blue route lines, but these are older
tracks from a previous version and are in red - the first one of our
home marina
http://p.vtourist.com/951996-Chart_o...reek-Ridge.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/2071745-Chart_...elby_Beach.jpg
(We went in to get fuel and had to wait off the dock for someone else
to finish)

And this one has both the anchorage and the marina
http://p.vtourist.com/1295474-Chart_...ort_Pierce.jpg

(I put the marina and anchorages marks on the charts)

Unfortunately, I no longer have teenaged eyes and the combination of
small size, lack of contrast, rain, darkness, etc. can make it hard to
read at the most important moments. I'm at the point where I can still
read the phone book, but only in good light and probably getting a
little worse. I wear 1.75 dime store glasses to read in bed and
nothing at the computer screen.

snip
Basically his solution is to leave the reading to me. I do the
charting and waypoints and radio work and all that stuff. I read the
GPS and record what it says.



Dennis Pogson August 16th 06 09:55 AM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Rosalie B. wrote:
Rosalie B. wrote:

"Ryk" wrote in message
...

I've got a Garmin GPS76 at the helm that provides all the
functionality I really need, backed up with a direct connection to
the PC running Fugawi at the nav station.


One thing that I do for my husband that you might do for yourself is
to put a route or previous track on the computer. The routing is a
big blue line, and it is pretty easy to whether the ship is on the
route or not. If it is in the ICW or someplace where we have been
before, and where the route twists and turns a lot, I put the previous
track (which I have saved) up on the computer.

These are camera shots of the computer screen with anchorages where
the boat track has been marked green

http://p.vtourist.com/953705-Chart_o...htsville_Beach.
jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/1295370-chart_...ed-Footman.jpg

http://p.vtourist.com/952031-Chart_o...k-Reedville.jp
g

http://p.vtourist.com/953094-Chart_s...Deltaville.jpg

This one shows our track to a marina

http://p.vtourist.com/953621-ICW_cha...Creek-Oriental
..jpg
And to a new marina that isn't on the charts.
http://p.vtourist.com/953149-Chart_s...-Hampstead.jpg

I can't find any shots of the blue route lines, but these are older
tracks from a previous version and are in red - the first one of our
home marina
http://p.vtourist.com/951996-Chart_o...reek-Ridge.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/2071745-Chart_...elby_Beach.jpg
(We went in to get fuel and had to wait off the dock for someone else
to finish)

And this one has both the anchorage and the marina
http://p.vtourist.com/1295474-Chart_...ort_Pierce.jpg

(I put the marina and anchorages marks on the charts)

Unfortunately, I no longer have teenaged eyes and the combination
of small size, lack of contrast, rain, darkness, etc. can make it
hard to read at the most important moments. I'm at the point where
I can still read the phone book, but only in good light and
probably getting a little worse. I wear 1.75 dime store glasses to
read in bed and nothing at the computer screen.

snip
Basically his solution is to leave the reading to me. I do the
charting and waypoints and radio work and all that stuff. I read the
GPS and record what it says.


Your husband is a very lucky man. Most of our wives/girlfriends don't know
how to switch on a laptop, let alone use it for navigation!

Dennis.



Rosalie B. August 17th 06 01:17 AM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:
Rosalie B. wrote:

"Ryk" wrote in message
...

I've got a Garmin GPS76 at the helm that provides all the
functionality I really need, backed up with a direct connection to
the PC running Fugawi at the nav station.


One thing that I do for my husband that you might do for yourself is
to put a route or previous track on the computer. The routing is a
big blue line, and it is pretty easy to whether the ship is on the
route or not. If it is in the ICW or someplace where we have been
before, and where the route twists and turns a lot, I put the previous
track (which I have saved) up on the computer.

These are camera shots of the computer screen with anchorages where
the boat track has been marked green

http://p.vtourist.com/953705-Chart_o...htsville_Beach.
jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/1295370-chart_...ed-Footman.jpg

http://p.vtourist.com/952031-Chart_o...k-Reedville.jp
g

http://p.vtourist.com/953094-Chart_s...Deltaville.jpg

This one shows our track to a marina

http://p.vtourist.com/953621-ICW_cha...k-Oriental.jpg
And to a new marina that isn't on the charts.
http://p.vtourist.com/953149-Chart_s...-Hampstead.jpg

I can't find any shots of the blue route lines, but these are older
tracks from a previous version and are in red - the first one of our
home marina
http://p.vtourist.com/951996-Chart_o...reek-Ridge.jpg
http://p.vtourist.com/2071745-Chart_...elby_Beach.jpg
(We went in to get fuel and had to wait off the dock for someone else
to finish)

And this one has both the anchorage and the marina
http://p.vtourist.com/1295474-Chart_...ort_Pierce.jpg

(I put the marina and anchorages marks on the charts)

Unfortunately, I no longer have teenaged eyes and the combination
of small size, lack of contrast, rain, darkness, etc. can make it
hard to read at the most important moments. I'm at the point where
I can still read the phone book, but only in good light and
probably getting a little worse. I wear 1.75 dime store glasses to
read in bed and nothing at the computer screen.

snip
Basically his solution is to leave the reading to me. I do the
charting and waypoints and radio work and all that stuff. I read the
GPS and record what it says.


Your husband is a very lucky man. Most of our wives/girlfriends don't know
how to switch on a laptop, let alone use it for navigation!

Dennis.

I'll tell him you said that. He only uses an old CPM computer, so I
do all the computing on the internet. He just comes and tells me what
information he wants.

Actually, he doesn't use the phone much either. My son called today
and wanted to know his sister's phone number, and he didn't know it,
and I had the cell phone (with the number programmed in) and also my
address book with me. And my son didn't think of calling his OTHER
sister who would have had that information, so they had to wait until
I got home and could tell him what it was.


Sailaway August 17th 06 03:58 AM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Rosalie B asked why would anyone want to exercise their eyes to get
better vision when there was Lasik.

To answer that completely would take a few pages, but I'll give you a
few reasons.

1) Not everyone is a candidate for Lasik.
2) Not everyone is wealthy and can afford to waste thousands on
something they can accomplish on their own with a little effort.
3) Not everyone gets good results from Lasik.
4) There are several beneficial side effects to using eye exercise that
you will never get from Lasik, including reduced risk of several eye
maladies and diseases normally associated with 'aging'.
5) Lasik can result in worse vision in some people - it is always a crap
shoot since there is no way to tell beforehand who will have a severe
problem. The risk is lower than with earlier procedures, but it still
happens, and is no less severe when it does. A friend of my GF had Lasik
and is now nearly blind in one eye from over-compensation.

I know several people who have had Lasik and went from near sightedness
to having that corrected, but now have developed farsightedness from the
procedure, which is apparently common. A licensed Captain I worked with
this year had that happen to him. So he went from needing glasses for
far vision, to needing glasses for seeing whats in the boat.

And maybe its just me, but I just don't get this whole thing about
rushing out to have some guy cut parts off your body. Frankly even the
thought of that is scary. I would much rather exert a little effort to
correct something wrong with me, than have some MD (esp. after enough
years of hearing from them how little they understand how the human body
works- even the AMA admits that only 15% of what MD's do is based in
science, not to mention the frequent mistakes they seem to make) start
carving parts off me. But, to each his own.

Rosalie B. August 17th 06 05:54 AM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Sailaway wrote:

Rosalie B asked why would anyone want to exercise their eyes to get
better vision when there was Lasik.


I DID NOT SAY THAT. I just mentioned that Lasik was another
possibility. I didn't recommend it - just mentioned it. I do know a
sailor who has had it done (not me) and she likes it very well. I
did not express any opinion whatever on eye exercises.

To answer that completely would take a few pages, but I'll give you a
few reasons.

1) Not everyone is a candidate for Lasik.
2) Not everyone is wealthy and can afford to waste thousands on
something they can accomplish on their own with a little effort.
3) Not everyone gets good results from Lasik.
4) There are several beneficial side effects to using eye exercise that
you will never get from Lasik, including reduced risk of several eye
maladies and diseases normally associated with 'aging'.
5) Lasik can result in worse vision in some people - it is always a crap
shoot since there is no way to tell beforehand who will have a severe
problem. The risk is lower than with earlier procedures, but it still
happens, and is no less severe when it does. A friend of my GF had Lasik
and is now nearly blind in one eye from over-compensation.

I know several people who have had Lasik and went from near sightedness
to having that corrected, but now have developed farsightedness from the
procedure, which is apparently common. A licensed Captain I worked with
this year had that happen to him. So he went from needing glasses for
far vision, to needing glasses for seeing whats in the boat.

And maybe its just me, but I just don't get this whole thing about
rushing out to have some guy cut parts off your body. Frankly even the
thought of that is scary. I would much rather exert a little effort to
correct something wrong with me, than have some MD (esp. after enough
years of hearing from them how little they understand how the human body
works- even the AMA admits that only 15% of what MD's do is based in
science, not to mention the frequent mistakes they seem to make) start
carving parts off me. But, to each his own.



Sailaway August 17th 06 08:54 PM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Rosalie B wrote:
I DID NOT SAY THAT. I just mentioned that Lasik was another
possibility.


Sorry if there was any misunderstanding Rosalie, I lost that post I was
referring to and was relying on memory for the gist of it.

What I was inferring, or at least what I intended to infer, wasn't that
you were against anything or for anything else (the reply wasn't about
you), just that I seemed to remember you had brought it up in a way that
asked something like why do that when there is Lasik. And I do agree
that most people are happy with the surgery, esp. compared to what they
have been going through with glasses or contacts. I just wanted people
to know that there are important reasons to use it vs. Lasik so they
would know there was a choice other than what their
optomotrists/opthamologists were telling them and a choice other than
voluntarily having body parts cut off. I have to admit that there are
some subjects that get my shorts in a knot (and I'd guess it affects how
I write) - one being medical advice/proceedures vs. patients actually
doing something proactive to heal or avoid disease in the first place.
That takes education and effort and unfortunately only a relatively few
are interested so we have our present idiotic medical boondoggle and
associated costs instead of a healthy and self-sufficient population.
rant off

So my answer was only intended as education, not intended at all to be
about you, and not intended as any kind of slight whatsoever.

Rosalie B. August 17th 06 10:47 PM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Sailaway wrote:

Rosalie B wrote:
I DID NOT SAY THAT. I just mentioned that Lasik was another
possibility.


Sorry if there was any misunderstanding Rosalie, I lost that post I was
referring to and was relying on memory for the gist of it.

What I was inferring, or at least what I intended to infer, wasn't that
you were against anything or for anything else (the reply wasn't about
you), just that I seemed to remember you had brought it up in a way that
asked something like why do that when there is Lasik.


Well it did seem as if you were setting me up in order to make fun of
me - your original post said

Rosalie B asked why would anyone want to exercise their eyes to get
better vision when there was Lasik.


I think you could have given the reasons against it without bringing
me into it at all. Because what I actually wrote was

"It has just occurred to me that you [meaning the OP whose post was
immediately below mine] could have lasiks done on just one eye. That
way you could read with one eye and see distance with the other.
Sailors that we know where she had always worn contacts, she got that
done, and doesn't have to wear glasses at all now."

I left the stuff about the eye exercises in at the bottom of the post
(I top posted after the original post) because I thought it was
valuable information which could stand to be repeated. It wasn't a
disparagement - quite the opposite. I suppose I could have cut it all
out and then there wouldn't have been a misunderstanding that I was
contrasting two different methods of treatment.

I know that eye exercises can help in some instances..

And I do agree
that most people are happy with the surgery, esp. compared to what they
have been going through with glasses or contacts. I just wanted people
to know that there are important reasons to use it vs. Lasik so they
would know there was a choice other than what their
optomotrists/opthamologists were telling them and a choice other than
voluntarily having body parts cut off. I have to admit that there are
some subjects that get my shorts in a knot (and I'd guess it affects how
I write) - one being medical advice/proceedures vs. patients actually
doing something proactive to heal or avoid disease in the first place.
That takes education and effort and unfortunately only a relatively few
are interested so we have our present idiotic medical boondoggle and
associated costs instead of a healthy and self-sufficient population.
rant off


I was in the gym the other day and I was explaining to the trainers
that I wanted to increase my flexibility, but that I do have some
joint problems, and they wanted to know why I didn't just get a knee
and hip replacement. I've had enough surgery Thank You Very Much.


So my answer was only intended as education, not intended at all to be
about you, and not intended as any kind of slight whatsoever.



Dennis Pogson August 18th 06 10:31 AM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
Rosalie B. wrote:
Snip
I was in the gym the other day and I was explaining to the trainers
that I wanted to increase my flexibility, but that I do have some
joint problems, and they wanted to know why I didn't just get a knee
and hip replacement. I've had enough surgery Thank You Very Much.

Have these morons actually SEEN a knee or hip replacement? It's a wonder
that it all goes back together! The noise when they dislocate the jount is
enough to make anyone sick. I thought hacksaws were for cutting metal.10
years ago my MD told me My knees were "not bad enough to operate on". Now he
tells me I'm getting too old to benefit from the operation. Keep taking the
glucosamine!

I do however find that eye drops of the over-the-counter kind are
definiitely beneficial. Used sparingly and not every day, they keep the eyes
from becoming inflamed. My $5 reading glasses are all I need, despite the
protestations of my optician!





Rosalie B. August 18th 06 01:46 PM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:
Snip
I was in the gym the other day and I was explaining to the trainers
that I wanted to increase my flexibility, but that I do have some
joint problems, and they wanted to know why I didn't just get a knee
and hip replacement. I've had enough surgery Thank You Very Much.

Have these morons actually SEEN a knee or hip replacement? It's a wonder
that it all goes back together! The noise when they dislocate the jount is
enough to make anyone sick. I thought hacksaws were for cutting metal.10
years ago my MD told me My knees were "not bad enough to operate on". Now he
tells me I'm getting too old to benefit from the operation. Keep taking the
glucosamine!


I took that for many years, and when I stopped I didn't notice any
difference, so I've quit taking it. It doesn't benefit everyone.

I do however find that eye drops of the over-the-counter kind are
definiitely beneficial. Used sparingly and not every day, they keep the eyes
from becoming inflamed. My $5 reading glasses are all I need, despite the
protestations of my optician!

I need glasses for both distance and close-up, so reading glasses
wouldn't work for me. That's what Bob uses though.



Ryk August 18th 06 10:27 PM

GPS / Chartplotter solution?
 
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:54:41 -0400, in message

"OldSailor" wrote:


"Dennis Pogson" wrote

This seems to be the best, (and cheapest) solution. Get yourself a blonde
nympho who has younger eyes than yours (no disrespect to Rosalie!).


If she has good eyes, it might be hard to get her interested :)


My race partner is blonde and she does have younger eyes than I do,
but that doesn't do me a bit of good in the rain, in the middle of the
night, when I'm on watch and can't read the GPS well enough to know
how much I'm missing the island by.

Ryk



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