Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

Don White wrote:
That Patrick guy who acted in the original Brit TV series 'The Avengers'...

Wasn't that Patrick McKnee ?

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

Sailaway wrote:
Don White wrote:
That Patrick guy who acted in the original Brit TV series 'The Avengers'...

Wasn't that Patrick McKnee ?


Yes, I believe that's right. (alias Jonathan Steed)

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

I should think the word "reasonable" would apply here. If the Coast Guard
is waking you up at 3am, doing an inspection of your boat and you are the
"only" boat that is getting treated this way; then I think you would have a
reasonable complaint.

Let's get more extreme; say you are Black, and you own a big White yacht.
At 3am, the Coast Guard comes knocking.

Yet, the big Black yacht next to yours which is owned by the White guy is
never bothered ................

Then, I would say that you have every right in the world to file a lawsuit.

My guess is that the Coast Guard is inspecting boats on a regular basis.
They know what reasonable means. They are not going around messing with
boaters for the fun of it.


Let's use another example: say you are in a bar watching the baseball game.
The guy next to you, who happens to be in the Coast Guard is a Red Sox fan
and you are a Yankee fan. You two get into it. The Coast Guard guy says
"I'll see you on the water some time". At 3am his buddies and he come
knocking. You prove in court that he said what he said. You bring in the
bartender who swears he said "I'll see you on the water some time"..

Law suit ,,, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



Reasonable ...



"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:41:01 -0400, Wayne.B
said:

when they do it in the middle of the night with "SWAT
team" tactics they should be made to justify it, and it can be done if
you know which strings to pull.

I'm all ears. Which strings? Seems they didn't teach us that in law
school.
But maybe you got admitted to the bar with your detailed knowledge of such
matters.

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

On 13 Aug 2006 18:29:15 GMT, (Lauri Tarkkonen)
wrote:

In Larry writes:

"jaybird" wrote in news:1155482028.960299.312280@
75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Can you avoid sales tax and intangible taxes by purchasing and flagging
a boat say in the Carribean vs the US?



Sure. The incredibly rich have all their monster yachts flagged in the BVI
that come to Charleston. They don't leave them in one place long enough to
attract the tax bureaucrats' attentions....plus, of course, the
billionaires have batteries of lawyers and accountants they'd have to fight
for years to get a dime......making it unprofitable to persecute them.

Of course they have paid crew to move the boat from place to place so
that they can avoid taxes. Perhaps the crew will avoid income taxes as
well.

Isn't that what the lawyer class lives for?

Of course it is good busines to pay a lawyer 10 dollars to avoid paying
Oncle Sam one dollar.

In this case, it's the other way around.



I'd bet Jimmy Dean or Gene Reed's law firms could bankrupt most any
county....

Why should they do that?

- Lauri Tarkkonen

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:36:42 -0400, Jeff wrote:

jaybird wrote:

On the other hand, foreign flagging must be an open invitation to the
CG to "Board Me!"

Not in the least.

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

On 15 Aug 2006 20:12:04 -0500, Dave wrote:

Apparently you attended the lecture where they teach you that if you can't
answer the question asked, answer the question you wish they had asked.

And you attended the one where they teach you to always have the last
word?

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

Throughout my life, the least liked people I have met have been those who
"can't suffer a fool". Why? Because it shows a lack of understanding.
Attorneys didnt become the most despised profession in the USA without some
effort. Oh no. They go about their day telling everyone they have all the
answers but then can't answer a straight question. Example: Bill Clinton,
disbarred/allowed back lawyer, ..." it all depends what the meaning of is
is".

I know many folks who aren't very smart. They didn't go to the best
schools, don't have degrees, get along as best they can.

BUT THEY KNOW WHAT THE MEANING OF "IS,IS".


==============================================

What I don't suffer easily is a knowitall. And you are an example of one.


My guess, and this is an educated one ..............

You are one lousy lawyer.


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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:04:23 -0400, Wayne.B
said:

Apparently you attended the lecture where they teach you that if you
can't
answer the question asked, answer the question you wish they had asked.

And you attended the one where they teach you to always have the last
word?

Some people have a talent for suffering fools gladly. I lack that talent.

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:04:23 -0400, Wayne.B
said:

Apparently you attended the lecture where they teach you that if you can't
answer the question asked, answer the question you wish they had asked.

And you attended the one where they teach you to always have the last
word?

Some people have a talent for suffering fools gladly. I lack that talent.

Try explaining that to the Coastie with his Sidearm and FlakVest, just
after he boards your vessel......can you say "not impressed".......

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

On 16 Aug 2006 10:00:02 -0500, Dave wrote:

And you attended the one where they teach you to always have the last
word?

Some people have a talent for suffering fools gladly. I lack that talent.

=========

I rest my case.

Flagging a boat in a foreign country
 

Jeff wrote:



Earlier in the summer I was moored in a quiet cove in Salem Bay (MA)
when a CG boat did a "routine safety inspection" of 45 foot powerboat
at 10PM. Lights flashing, bumping into other boats in the anchorage -
it was really rather surreal. The next morning I asked one of the
local boats that was near the action what was going on, and he said
that every new power boat that is "drug running capable" gets boarded
until the local CG gets to know them.

And another friend with a large powerboat that happens to have a
southern city as the hailing port gets boarded, even though he's a
assistant harbormaster and the head of a local SWAT Team and sniper
group.

Coast Guard surveillance isn't all bad. My daughter's brother-in-law
Joe decided that he'd like to go to the Bahamas (from Miami) on
Thursday night after he'd had dinner with his dad. He and his half
brother Eric took off in the boat that he co-owned with my daughter
and SIL - at night, and this boat has two 250 hp engines on it - about
a 30 foot power boat.

The CG stopped them and asked them what they were doing. After they
were allowed to go on their way, the CG kept them on their radar.
This was a GOOD thing, because the boat ran into an uncharted rock
which ripped up through the cabin sole and trashed one of the engines.
Eric was at the wheel and went through the dodger/windscreen, but Joe
was pitched down into the cabin, and broke his wrist and severed his
Achilles tendon. He was able to put out a Mayday, and the CG knew
right where they were and came right away.

They evacuated both men - they tied the boat to the rock - the report
said that they would have left someone there, but the deck was so
slippery from blood etc that it wasn't really safe. Eric had some
stitches in his face, and Joe was taken to the hospital for his broken
wrist.

Now Joe is a personal injury lawyer, and the hospital people said
they'd have him operated on the next day, but Joe didn't recognize any
of the names of the doctors who would be doing the work. So he called
his dad, and checked out of the hospital - hopping on one foot and
went to another hospital. When he checked into the second hospital,
they x-rayed him and found that he had also broken a vertebra in his
neck.

He's OK now.

And the boat was taken by a Bahamian who was prosecuted (not by Joe I
don't think, but by Bahamian authorities) for theft, and the boat was
recovered - of course there wasn't much that could be salvaged of it,
but the insurance company wanted to see it.