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Rosalie B. June 22nd 06 02:20 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
sherwindu wrote:
"Rosalie B." wrote:

sherwindu wrote:

You are a most pedantic fellow. You also have an annoying habit of straying
from
the true subject line. Not impressed by you Lincoln quotations.

Sherwin D.
Dave wrote:

On 20 Jun 2006 10:47:38 -0700, said:

Your idea of a conglomerate and mine are
different.

How many legs does a sheep have if you call its tail a leg?
[Attributed to A. Lincoln]


You all seem to be an annoying fellows who can't integrate data no
matter how many times and in how many different ways it is presented,
hoping that you will 'get it'..

Since it seems beyond you - what he was doing was pointing out that
the definition of conglomerate is "A corporation made up of a number
of different companies that operate in diversified fields."

Just having a very large company does not make it a conglomerate.
Your idea of a conglomerate is wrong - it is the same as calling the
sheep's tail a leg.


Yes, but who really cares when that was not the original essence of the
original message. It's called going off the subject. If I wanted my english
corrected, I would go to rec.betterenglish. It bugs me that when a question
or issue is raised, people go off on a tangent and the real issue never gets
addressed.

He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.

Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.

If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.







Keith June 22nd 06 02:37 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Didn't West get rid of their "new" CEO that took over maybe 4 years
ago? He looked like a disaster in the making... every company he did
that for before went under not too long after he left.

I went into sticker shock a bit more than a year ago. Went in to buy a
quart of 3M's Finesse-it polishing compound. $50!!!!!!!!!! plus tax. I
went on the web and bought it from an auto body supply place for $25
delivered, no tax. I used to price shop only for big ticket items, but
now, I look on the web for almost everything that I don't have to have
right now.

I do agree they have a great return policy and selection, but the
prices are just killer!


Larry June 22nd 06 03:05 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Rosalie B. wrote in
:

You all seem to be an annoying fellows who can't integrate data no
matter how many times and in how many different ways it is presented,
hoping that you will 'get it'..



Isn't that why we like to hang out in and around BOATS?....(c;


Larry June 22nd 06 03:16 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
"boomerswims" wrote in
ups.com:

When you do please let us
know so that we may fix our mistakes.


Hell, that's easy. Just price the items at the retail price in the first
place, negating the necessity for us to search the net for the retail price
before going to the store to play "Price Match Game" in the first place.

It reminds me of the Tehran Baazar where the price tag is about double what
he really expects to get for it after the haggling has gone on
interminably....

Retailers are playing a NEW price match game, now, but I'm not sure about
WM. The same Gateway notebook computer at Best Buy now has a different
model number, only available at Best Buy stores, than the Circuit City
Gateway notebook, only available at Circuit City stores. Even though it's
exactly the same computer, no price match is necessary as it's not EXACTLY
the same model number any more. On the bottom of both of them, it says,
Model MA3 on the Gateway label. At CC, they call it MX6438. I'm typing
this on one, now.

Better stainless screws that the head doesn't twist off of like West
Marine's are half price at True Value Hardware.....Why?


krj June 22nd 06 03:26 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Keith wrote:
Didn't West get rid of their "new" CEO that took over maybe 4 years
ago? He looked like a disaster in the making... every company he did
that for before went under not too long after he left.

I went into sticker shock a bit more than a year ago. Went in to buy a
quart of 3M's Finesse-it polishing compound. $50!!!!!!!!!! plus tax. I
went on the web and bought it from an auto body supply place for $25
delivered, no tax. I used to price shop only for big ticket items, but
now, I look on the web for almost everything that I don't have to have
right now.

I do agree they have a great return policy and selection, but the
prices are just killer!

How about their 2 oz bottle of Hose Lub (Joy detergent) that sells for $3.99
krj

boomerswims June 22nd 06 04:00 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 



Independent marine stores will match West's prices and usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.


We can order directly for you. Many times we have to do special orders.
Especially, from sierra for engine parts.


Gordon Wedman June 22nd 06 04:43 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 

"boomerswims" wrote in message
oups.com...



Independent marine stores will match West's prices and usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.


We can order directly for you. Many times we have to do special orders.
Especially, from sierra for engine parts.


I have used the special orders department a couple of time recently to
purchase items that were not available locally and not on the West Marine
shelves. Very smooth transaction.

Something that has not been mentioned is the West Advantage which gives you
back something like 15% on your purchases. May not offset the higher prices
but it helps.



Richard J Kinch June 22nd 06 08:08 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Larry writes:

The same Gateway notebook computer at Best Buy now has a different
model number, only available at Best Buy stores, than the Circuit City
Gateway notebook, only available at Circuit City stores.


This trick is as old as retailing.

Bill Kearney June 23rd 06 03:37 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Retailers are playing a NEW price match game, now, but I'm not sure about
WM. The same Gateway notebook computer at Best Buy now has a different
model number, only available at Best Buy stores, than the Circuit City
Gateway notebook, only available at Circuit City stores


This is not a new game. Consumer electronics folks have been doing this for
several decades.


sherwindu June 23rd 06 05:59 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.


I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs. monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.


I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.


Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the original
idea being presented.



sherwindu June 23rd 06 06:07 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
I think you have a real find there. Marina stores traditionally charge much
more than
anyone else, maybe because of the convenience factor. I just got the good news
that
a Cabelas Sport Store is moving into my area. I bought a Garelick outboard
bracket from them this year at almost half of what West Marine was asking. I
don't
think West would have bargained down that much, so I didn't even ask. I hope
more will follow, especially those with a good selection of sailboat hardware.

Sherwin D.

Jere Lull wrote:

In article . com,
"boomerswims" wrote:

I'm really sorry that so many of you have had bad experiences with west
marine. I'm probably going to get my lashes by mentioning this, but I'm
going to. I work for west marine.


What I complain about is of no fault of yours.

My complaints mostly center around dramatically increased prices for
things that they stock, and far fewer stocked items than in past years.

I used to be able to get my Maxprop zincs at the Delaware BOAT/U.S. No
longer.

Last year, the West Marine stores had Spade anchors. This year (when I
went to get one) NOT. I probably would have ordered from Glenn anyway,
but I checked in case there was a price differential.

So many times, things that had been in the stores are missing now.

Independent marine stores will match West's prices and usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.

West seems to think they've created a monopoly and increased prices
accordingly, but that ain't true in my area. My marina's store gives me
better prices and service.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Capt. JG June 23rd 06 08:41 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
"sherwindu" wrote in message
...


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.


I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs.
monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.


I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.


Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the original
idea being presented.


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Keith June 23rd 06 12:55 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Got to do a little head to head comparison this week. This is from the
West Marine store in Corpus Christi vs. Defender's online prices.

32 oz. 303 fabric protector: West - $27, Defender $32. This was a
surprise.
18 g duplex wire, Ancor: West - $75, Defender $43.
3M metal restorer and polish, 16 oz. tub: West - $28, Defender $19.

Also, add 8.25% sales tax to the above if purchased locally. Very
advantageous to shop online, I'd say. West will usually price match, if
you bring in a web price.


Scotty June 23rd 06 01:39 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 

"Keith" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
Got to do a little head to head comparison this week. This

is from the
West Marine store in Corpus Christi vs. Defender's online

prices.

32 oz. 303 fabric protector: West - $27, Defender $32.

This was a
surprise.
18 g duplex wire, Ancor: West - $75, Defender $43.
3M metal restorer and polish, 16 oz. tub: West - $28,

Defender $19.


What about shipping?

SV



Scotty June 23rd 06 01:39 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Most people complain that Cabelas is overpriced.

SV


"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
I think you have a real find there. Marina stores

traditionally charge much
more than
anyone else, maybe because of the convenience factor. I

just got the good news
that
a Cabelas Sport Store is moving into my area. I bought a

Garelick outboard
bracket from them this year at almost half of what West

Marine was asking. I
don't
think West would have bargained down that much, so I

didn't even ask. I hope
more will follow, especially those with a good selection

of sailboat hardware.

Sherwin D.

Jere Lull wrote:

In article

. com,
"boomerswims" wrote:

I'm really sorry that so many of you have had bad

experiences with west
marine. I'm probably going to get my lashes by

mentioning this, but I'm
going to. I work for west marine.


What I complain about is of no fault of yours.

My complaints mostly center around dramatically

increased prices for
things that they stock, and far fewer stocked items than

in past years.

I used to be able to get my Maxprop zincs at the

Delaware BOAT/U.S. No
longer.

Last year, the West Marine stores had Spade anchors.

This year (when I
went to get one) NOT. I probably would have ordered from

Glenn anyway,
but I checked in case there was a price differential.

So many times, things that had been in the stores are

missing now.

Independent marine stores will match West's prices and

usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When

they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs

and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.

West seems to think they've created a monopoly and

increased prices
accordingly, but that ain't true in my area. My marina's

store gives me
better prices and service.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics)

http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/




Bill Kearney June 23rd 06 01:43 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Also, add 8.25% sales tax to the above if purchased locally.

8.25%? Hell, I'd move rather than pay that extortion.

sherwindu June 24th 06 05:56 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Defender used to have very good prices. Someone probably bought them out, and
the prices shot up.

Sherwin D.

Keith wrote:

Got to do a little head to head comparison this week. This is from the
West Marine store in Corpus Christi vs. Defender's online prices.

32 oz. 303 fabric protector: West - $27, Defender $32. This was a
surprise.
18 g duplex wire, Ancor: West - $75, Defender $43.
3M metal restorer and polish, 16 oz. tub: West - $28, Defender $19.

Also, add 8.25% sales tax to the above if purchased locally. Very
advantageous to shop online, I'd say. West will usually price match, if
you bring in a web price.



sherwindu June 24th 06 05:57 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
I can't help it if you have this thing for grandma Rosalie.

"Capt. JG" wrote:

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.


I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs.
monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.


I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.


Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the original
idea being presented.


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



sherwindu June 24th 06 06:01 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Not my experience. I'm sure it depends on the item. I saved a bundle on two
Marine items I bought there last year. When I visited their store in Wisconsin,
I
did see a lot of expensive clothes, but who shops for clothes in a sport's
store, unless
it is high tech gear, and I have several other choices locally to find that.

Scotty wrote:

Most people complain that Cabelas is overpriced.

SV

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
I think you have a real find there. Marina stores

traditionally charge much
more than
anyone else, maybe because of the convenience factor. I

just got the good news
that
a Cabelas Sport Store is moving into my area. I bought a

Garelick outboard
bracket from them this year at almost half of what West

Marine was asking. I
don't
think West would have bargained down that much, so I

didn't even ask. I hope
more will follow, especially those with a good selection

of sailboat hardware.

Sherwin D.

Jere Lull wrote:

In article

. com,
"boomerswims" wrote:

I'm really sorry that so many of you have had bad

experiences with west
marine. I'm probably going to get my lashes by

mentioning this, but I'm
going to. I work for west marine.

What I complain about is of no fault of yours.

My complaints mostly center around dramatically

increased prices for
things that they stock, and far fewer stocked items than

in past years.

I used to be able to get my Maxprop zincs at the

Delaware BOAT/U.S. No
longer.

Last year, the West Marine stores had Spade anchors.

This year (when I
went to get one) NOT. I probably would have ordered from

Glenn anyway,
but I checked in case there was a price differential.

So many times, things that had been in the stores are

missing now.

Independent marine stores will match West's prices and

usually beat
them. Repeat customers get an even better deal. When

they don't have an
item, they'll dig around in the manufacturers' catalogs

and order
directly. West can't or won't do that.

West seems to think they've created a monopoly and

increased prices
accordingly, but that ain't true in my area. My marina's

store gives me
better prices and service.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics)

http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Capt. JG June 24th 06 06:23 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
I can't help it if you have this thing for grandma Rosalie.

"Capt. JG" wrote:

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...


"Rosalie B." wrote:




He wasn't correcting your English - he was correcting the idea of the
definition of conglomerate. If he were just correcting your English,
he would have said that the appropriate phrase to describe West Marine
and the effect they have on the chandlery markets was 'monopoly'.

I am not arguing the correctness of the term conglomerate vs.
monopoly.
Perhaps monopoly would have been a more descriptive term, but why
harp on this.



Since we were discussing a large corporation which sells marine
products which was incorrectly calling a conglomerate, it was not off
topic here, but your remarks about Lincoln WERE off topic.

I think they were off topic since this is a boating forum and
calling
West a conglomerate or a monopoly doesn't change the reality of
the problem of a single company controlling most of the retail
outlets
to the boating public.



If tangential remarks bug you then you'd do better to go to a
moderated group or to get out of this venue altogether. I find it far
worse when folks engage in protracted slanging matches that are ON
topic.

Does that go for your protracted defense of this linguistic expert?

I think I will just ignore your advice, since nobody appointed you
as the chief advisor of who should and who shouldn't post here.

Unfortunately, there are no decent moderated boating forums that I
know of. Moderating a forum only makes sense when the poster is
completely off the subject. In this case, the poster just deviated
from
the issue to go down his preferred path, never addressing the
original
idea being presented.


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my
opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).


Ah, so personal attacks are your thing... you sound pretty angry.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




sherwindu June 25th 06 07:05 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 


"Capt. JG" wrote:


I think that if one has to choose between listening to your advise vs.
Rosalie's, most will listen to her. But, of course, that's just my
opinion
on monopolies (or is it a conglomeration?).


Ah, so personal attacks are your thing...


Now wait a minute. Making these off the wall comments about how YOU
think most people feel about my remarks, seems like you started this
exchange.

you sound pretty angry.


I am angry about people who are petty, and those that defend them.



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Ryk July 4th 06 09:22 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:01:16 -0500, in message

sherwindu wrote:

Not my experience. I'm sure it depends on the item. I saved a bundle on two
Marine items I bought there last year. When I visited their store in Wisconsin,
I
did see a lot of expensive clothes, but who shops for clothes in a sport's
store, unless
it is high tech gear, and I have several other choices locally to find that.


Some recent comparison shopping suggests that WM does a great job of
marketing by cutting as deeply as they can on big ticket items while
keeping the margin pretty strong on the cheaper stuff we spend lots of
money on, but never bother to compare.

Ryk


[email protected] July 5th 06 07:39 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Some recent comparison shopping suggests that WM does a great job of
marketing by cutting as deeply as they can on big ticket items while
keeping the margin pretty strong on the cheaper stuff we spend lots of
money on, but never bother to compare.


I needed to replace the nicad batteries in two Nicro Solar Day/Night
vents. WM wanted $15 for a "C" sized nicad.
I bought a pack of two at Radio Shack for $7.


sherwindu July 6th 06 05:08 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 


Ryk wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:01:16 -0500, in message

sherwindu wrote:

Not my experience. I'm sure it depends on the item. I saved a bundle on two
Marine items I bought there last year. When I visited their store in Wisconsin,
I
did see a lot of expensive clothes, but who shops for clothes in a sport's
store, unless
it is high tech gear, and I have several other choices locally to find that.


Some recent comparison shopping suggests that WM does a great job of
marketing by cutting as deeply as they can on big ticket items while
keeping the margin pretty strong on the cheaper stuff we spend lots of
money on, but never bother to compare.

Ryk


This is a typical problem with boating stores, in general. They sell common use
products at inflated prices, and put special labels on them to make them look like

specialty boating items. I'm curious who did this comparison shopping you talk
about. I shop for a lot of marine supplies, and my results are to the contrary.
WM
is not cutting as deep as I think they should, mainly because there are not enough

competitive stores available to force them to do so. In our economy, you can't
depend
on the good will of these companies to keep prices down. They are in business to
make
the biggest profit they can get from the customer. I shop at WM when I'm in a
bind for
time and need something quickly. Otherwise, it's the Internet for me, especially
on big
ticket items. There are also speciallized items which they don't carry in the
stores and
cannot order, for whatever reason.

Sherwin D.



Ryk July 6th 06 09:16 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:08:56 -0500, in message

sherwindu wrote:



Ryk wrote:


Some recent comparison shopping suggests that WM does a great job of
marketing by cutting as deeply as they can on big ticket items while
keeping the margin pretty strong on the cheaper stuff we spend lots of
money on, but never bother to compare.

Ryk


This is a typical problem with boating stores, in general. They sell common use
products at inflated prices, and put special labels on them to make them look like

specialty boating items. I'm curious who did this comparison shopping you talk
about. I shop for a lot of marine supplies, and my results are to the contrary.
WM
is not cutting as deep as I think they should, mainly because there are not enough

competitive stores available to force them to do so. In our economy, you can't
depend
on the good will of these companies to keep prices down.


Maybe I should have said as deeply they *have to* I have a great local
independent supplier. His prices are generally better than West,
except on the big ticket items where West knows people will compare.

Note that I said they were doing a great job of *marketing*, not a
great job of getting the best prices for the consumer.

Ryk


Wayne.B July 7th 06 02:48 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
On 6 Jul 2006 09:15:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

What an odd notion--trying to maximize profits for shareholders.


Must be some sort of free market communist conspiracy... :-)


sherwindu July 7th 06 07:16 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
And you must be one of those stockholders licking his chops from all the profits you
get from screwing those boaters.

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:08:56 -0500, sherwindu said:

In our economy, you can't depend
on the good will of these companies to keep prices down. They are in business to
make the biggest profit they can get from the customer.


What an odd notion--trying to maximize profits for shareholders.



sherwindu July 7th 06 07:17 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
If it were truely a free market, we would have some competition, wouldn't we?

"Wayne.B" wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 09:15:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

What an odd notion--trying to maximize profits for shareholders.


Must be some sort of free market communist conspiracy... :-)



Alan Gomes July 7th 06 11:58 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
If it were truely a free market, we would have some competition, wouldn't
we?

"Wayne.B" wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 09:15:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

What an odd notion--trying to maximize profits for shareholders.


Must be some sort of free market communist conspiracy... :-)


We do. (My new, non-West Marine halyard should be arriving any day now....)



Wayne.B July 7th 06 11:59 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 01:16:28 -0500, sherwindu
wrote:

And you must be one of those stockholders licking his chops from all the profits you
get from screwing those boaters.


There is plenty of competition. What you are paying for is service
and local convenience, and that is worth what ever people are willing
to pay.


Don White July 7th 06 01:51 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
sherwindu wrote:
And you must be one of those stockholders licking his chops from all the profits you
get from screwing those boaters.

Dave wrote:


On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:08:56 -0500, sherwindu said:


In our economy, you can't depend
on the good will of these companies to keep prices down. They are in business to
make the biggest profit they can get from the customer.


What an odd notion--trying to maximize profits for shareholders.



Dave's a lawyer. He licks his chops at the opportunity to s*rew anyone.

krj July 7th 06 03:59 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:59:17 -0400, Wayne.B
said:


There is plenty of competition.



I don't think so. Certainly nowhere near as much as there was in the 70s.

Within a 2 mile area we have West Marine, Boat Owners Warehouse, Boaters
World, Sailorman, and Lewis Marine. All have almost the same items at
the same prices. Wheres the competition?

Capt. JG July 7th 06 09:34 PM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
There's no competition requirement per se for a free-market condition.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"sherwindu" wrote in message
...
If it were truely a free market, we would have some competition, wouldn't
we?

"Wayne.B" wrote:

On 6 Jul 2006 09:15:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

What an odd notion--trying to maximize profits for shareholders.


Must be some sort of free market communist conspiracy... :-)





Larry July 8th 06 03:02 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
"Alan Gomes" wrote in
:

We do. (My new, non-West Marine halyard should be arriving any day
now....)


Same is true for car parts:
1996 Chevy Caprice Classic, 4.3L V-8, fuel rail pressure regulator:

Chevy dealer in town, AC-Delco part $163.
Advance Auto "discount" parts store $68 (aftermarket cheapie)
AutoZone $72 (aftermarket cheapie)

rockauto.com from a Google search
ACDELCO 217365 (217-365) (Fuel Injection Pressure Regulator)
$ 42.89 $ 0.00 1 $ 42.89

Shipping $ 4.58
Order Total $ 47.47

I love competition, myself. Car no longer hesitates when you try to drive
it 10 mph through the neighborhood.....PRICELESS.

Searching Google for boat parts ISN'T a crime, either. I checked!


sherwindu July 8th 06 07:30 AM

West Marine ,, is that the worst store or what
 
Dave wrote:

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 01:16:28 -0500, sherwindu said:

And you must be one of those stockholders licking his chops from all the profits you
get from screwing those boaters.


Well, sounds like certain regions have some competition. Here in the lower end of
Lake Michigan, we basically only have West (one other store many miles from the
lake - Boaters World).





Unfortunately, no. I'd like to see some competition also. I was most happy
to see Boaters' World open up a new store right across the highway from the
new West facility here. But railing against the concept that someone in
business is trying to maximize profits is just plain silly.


Common now, what business in the USA is not trying to maximize profits? It's
the American way. Why do you think business's spend loads on market surveys
to find out what they can charge.



Buying supplies on the internet is a two-edged sword. While it does
constrain the ability of the major chains to raise prices, it also reduces
the incentive for new competitors to go into business.


There is still a place for local stores. Whenever possible, I like to see what I am
buying. Also, when I need a part quickly to be able to take my boat
out, I can't wait for an Internet delivery. There is also a question of selection.
West
has a decent inventory, but more often than not, I can't find what I'm looking for.
Having
more stores out there gives me a better chance of finding things. I would be happier
if
West cut down on their clothing items to make more room for boat hardware. There is
big profit in clothing, so I don't think we will see that soon.

Sherwin




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