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My husband and I have a Rawson 30 in Honolulu, HI. We have since been
transfered to San Diego, CA. I was seven months pregnant and unable to
help my husband sail it over. My husband tried to single hand it in
February. The season proved to be as bad as everyone told us. He lost
the windvane in a 55 knot gale offshore and had to abandon the trip
three days into it. We are now in San Diego and boatless. We found
someone to build us a trailer to handle our boat. We thought we would
be able to have it shipped over through the military, but that fell
through. My husband will not be able to try the trip until October,
which is a better season to sail across. Is it better to sell it, ship
it, or pay the dock fees (without the use of the boat to us)? Does
anybody have any input about this? Please let me know.

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I was in a similar fix when moving back from the Middle East to the USA. In
Greece, we were able to find a cruise boat crossing to Jamaica on a 'work
crossing'
to start a charter cruise. They took our 22 foot sailboat aboard and set it
next to the
swimming pool. We went along as passengers and paid a really low rate for
ourselves and the boat. It may have been a chance find, but we spent almost two
months in Piraeus until we found this opportunity. Try checking with the cruise
lines
to see if you can get a similar deal.

Sherwin D.

boomerswims wrote:

My husband and I have a Rawson 30 in Honolulu, HI. We have since been
transfered to San Diego, CA. I was seven months pregnant and unable to
help my husband sail it over. My husband tried to single hand it in
February. The season proved to be as bad as everyone told us. He lost
the windvane in a 55 knot gale offshore and had to abandon the trip
three days into it. We are now in San Diego and boatless. We found
someone to build us a trailer to handle our boat. We thought we would
be able to have it shipped over through the military, but that fell
through. My husband will not be able to try the trip until October,
which is a better season to sail across. Is it better to sell it, ship
it, or pay the dock fees (without the use of the boat to us)? Does
anybody have any input about this? Please let me know.

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boomerswims wrote:
My husband and I have a Rawson 30 in Honolulu, HI.

Is it better to sell it, ship
it, or pay the dock fees (without the use of the boat to us)? Does
anybody have any input about this?

Hi:

I spent a few days in Honolulu last November. I thought I would check
out the marina situation and went for a dock walk. First stop was the
marina west of Waikiki Beach. If I remember right there was an 8 year
waiting list?!?!?!?

Roomers were some folks are willing to buy a boat just to get a slip.

So you have a Rawson 30 that's worth about $12-20K in a high demand
location.

Sell it as a liveaboard to someone who lives in Frost Bite Falls, MN
for $35K. Be sure to really promote the exclusive slip as a rich and
famous place to live.

Then buy a fun 24' something-or-another on a trailer.

Small is Beautiful Bob

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boomerswims wrote:
My husband and I have a Rawson 30 in Honolulu, HI. We have since been
transfered to San Diego, CA. I was seven months pregnant and unable to
help my husband sail it over. My husband tried to single hand it in
February. The season proved to be as bad as everyone told us. He lost
the windvane in a 55 knot gale offshore and had to abandon the trip
three days into it. We are now in San Diego and boatless. We found
someone to build us a trailer to handle our boat. We thought we would
be able to have it shipped over through the military, but that fell
through. My husband will not be able to try the trip until October,
which is a better season to sail across. Is it better to sell it, ship
it, or pay the dock fees (without the use of the boat to us)? Does
anybody have any input about this? Please let me know.

Get a quote from a delivery crew then decide whether to sell the boat or
have it delivered (sailed) to Ca. If the costs of delivery are too high,
sell it in situ as suggested.

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try here

http://www.shipmyvehicle.com/BoatTransport.aspx

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or here

http://www.yachtworld.com/ballastpoi...tpoint_25.html

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Rent it out to tourists until you can sail it back.

Or sell it there and buy another here.

Are boats cheaper in Hawaii?

Terry K

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Terry K wrote:
Rent it out to tourists until you can sail it back.

Are boats cheaper in Hawaii?

The insurance that would be needed to do so would probably be
astranomical. Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable with "tourists" using
the boat without meeting them and knowing their sailing experience.

Depends on the boat. Boats really aren't that cheap out there.
Daysailers can usually be found fairly cheap. Sometimes you can catch a
deal of a lifetime on a cruiser. You definately just have to keep your
eye open.

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boomerswims wrote:
Terry K wrote:
The insurance that would be needed to do so would probably be
astranomical.

There you go again assuming without actual knowledge. Start with the
National Assocation of Chaterboat Operators (NACO). For $35 bucks you
can be a member and then have acess to several NACO Member Insuarce
brokers who cater specifically to charter operators.

There is also another charterboat association. But since you obviously
already know the cost of chaterboat insurance policys I wont waste any
more of your time.

Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable with "tourists" using
the boat without meeting them and knowing their sailing experience.

Why, have a small controll issue? Hey, if you're gonna get another boat
and sell the Rawson turn it into a business. IRS Sole Prop Sched. C.
Maybe if you are lucky a customer, or as you call them ; tourist, will
burn it or sink it for you........... ie. $$$$$$ for you.

Besides, somebody off the street coldn't do any worse than your
husband's attmpt at sailing it to CA.

Tired of Being Tactfull Bob

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In reply to what Bob wrote. I never said I knew what insurance would be
for a charter company. I said "would probably", which means I don't
know exactly. Majority of charter services in Hawaii are only those
with captains aboard. There is a reason for that. Hawaiian waters are
not the easiest waters to be on. At least my husband attempted sailing
to CA from HI. A lot of people can't even say that much. I would really
appreciate it if you no longer made comments of our lack to get our
boat to CA. Majority of people who sail to HI from CA either sell their
boat or ship it back. It is not an easy sail back. Especially during
the winter months.

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boomerswims wrote:
In reply to what Bob wrote.

I never said I knew... I said "would probably", which means I don't
know exactly.... Majority of ...There is a reason for that.... not the easiest waters to be on.... At least my husband attempted... A lot of people can't....Majority of people who sail ....

Way too many qualifiers in your language for my liking. It's an
unethical strategy used by people to sound important, knowledgeable,
and authoritative when actually the speaker is lacking credibility.
This strategy is used primarily by "know-it-alls" and other pompous
asses.

I would really appreciate it if you no longer made comments of our lack to get our
boat to CA.

Sorry honey, I aint your husband. Go bark up some other tree.
Woof--Woof.

It is not an easy sail back. Especially during
the winter months.

This statement alone will sever as my example. Here you make a claim as
if you have some personal knowledge of HI-CA voyages, and by your own
words “... especially in winter months.…� If you dohave that
type of experience seems to me you would just thumb through your World
Cruising Routes: 5th Edition by Jimmy Cornell and check out the Ocean
Prediction Center weather fax for the area, that is, since you have
lead these readers to think that you have personal knowledge of winter
passages from HI to CA.

I just took a look at the OPC latest and looks pretty good. Three big
STNRY 1022 Mb H sitting below the 30N line. Looks like 10-25 K 270
degrees seas 2-3 M along the 35N line.

Hey, down wind sailing most the wayï?Š Tell your husband to go for
it,,,,, that is if he isn't to bussy at the store buying your tampons
and fretting over the laundry he has to fold for you.

Since you do not want me to respond to your post. I have a polite
request for you:
I would really appreciate it if you no longer make comments about my
opinion.

Bad Mood Bob

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Bob wrote:
snip.


Sorry honey, I aint your husband. Go bark up some other tree.
Woof--Woof.


And since she isn't 'your wife'... why don't you go beat-up on your
own...if you have one.

snip..
Hey, down wind sailing most the wayï?Š Tell your husband to go for
it,,,,, that is if he isn't to bussy at the store buying your tampons
and fretting over the laundry he has to fold for you.

...real classy piece of work, aren't you?

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Don White wrote:

Tell your husband to go for
it,,,,, that is if he isn't to bussy at the store buying your tampons
and fretting over the laundry he has to fold for you.

..real classy piece of work, aren't you?

I appologize Don. I agree. The reason why I read these and post
questions is because of the wealty of solid information I find here.
Thank God boat.cruising is not like sailing.asa and I hope it will stay
as peacefull and informative as usual.

But sometimes I just get fed up with some of this crap and fall from
grace. Yes, I agree not a very nice thing to say................ but
hey, she took the bait and jumped into the flotsom with boat feet.

Bob

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Bob wrote:

Don White wrote:


Tell your husband to go for

it,,,,, that is if he isn't to bussy at the store buying your tampons
and fretting over the laundry he has to fold for you.


..real classy piece of work, aren't you?

I appologize Don. I agree. The reason why I read these and post
questions is because of the wealty of solid information I find here.
Thank God boat.cruising is not like sailing.asa and I hope it will stay
as peacefull and informative as usual.

But sometimes I just get fed up with some of this crap and fall from
grace. Yes, I agree not a very nice thing to say................ but
hey, she took the bait and jumped into the flotsom with boat feet.

Bob



That sometimes happens when one hangs bait.

Seems to be a fairly common form of recreation on the net.

But this does sound like a sincere appology.

And that is not that common at all.

Richard

one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, niner,

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cavelamb wrote:


That sometimes happens when one hangs bait.

Seems to be a fairly common form of recreation on the net.

Yes, for many. For me my tolerance was at an all time low for those who
use word choices in an effort to sound authoritative. Oh, the other
strategy I disliked was the common, ya but...." Ya know the type who
ask for advice only to reply with, "ya but"


But this does sound like a sincere apology.

That is the problem with written messages. 93% - 65% of the meaning of
a message is from the non verbal part of the message. When we lack such
a rich channel as non verbal people tend to misinterpret the intentions
of the sender. Remember:

Its not what you say, its .............
Actions speak louder than........
etc.

So if you think my word choices as not being sincere you respond to me
believing that. And that is one common way misunderstanding occur.


Actually I was directing my apology to this group and Don White. Not to
the woman boomerswim.

Bob

And that is not that common at all.
Richard

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Bob wrote:

cavelamb wrote:


That sometimes happens when one hangs bait.

Seems to be a fairly common form of recreation on the net.


Yes, for many. For me my tolerance was at an all time low for those who
use word choices in an effort to sound authoritative. Oh, the other
strategy I disliked was the common, ya but...." Ya know the type who
ask for advice only to reply with, "ya but"



But this does sound like a sincere apology.


That is the problem with written messages. 93% - 65% of the meaning of
a message is from the non verbal part of the message. When we lack such
a rich channel as non verbal people tend to misinterpret the intentions
of the sender. Remember:

Its not what you say, its .............
Actions speak louder than........
etc.

So if you think my word choices as not being sincere you respond to me
believing that. And that is one common way misunderstanding occur.


Mope. Like I said, sounded solid to me.



Actually I was directing my apology to this group and Don White. Not to
the woman boomerswim.

Bob


And that is not that common at all.
Richard