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Mic May 23rd 06 03:05 AM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
http://www.pulsegenetech.co.jp/en/what/index.html

NANOPULSER is an Electronic Desulfator Device that conditions your
battery for better performance.

"Marine Vessels
For marine usage, batteries sulfate fast because marine vessel
batteries are usually in discharge cycle off shore. It would be common
sense to use Nanopulser for conditioning the batteries. A case study
showed an increase in the capacity of a battery in two weeks. This
battery had lost capacity and was experiencing difficulty in starting
the engine. However, after two weeks of treatment with Nanopulser, the
battery capacity came back and the battery was starting the engine
without a problem. Please be aware that using Nanopulser does not
relieve you from regular recommended battery maintenance.

Most frequently asked question for pleasure boat usage is if one unit
conditions all the batteries in a battery bank. The answer is "YES".
However, please be aware that larger the capacity, longer it will take
to desulfate sulfated batteries, but give a sufficient time,
Nanopulser will condition the batteries. (The sufficient time is about
4 to 6 weeks for 1000 Ah battery bank. -- based on case studies.)"

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Any comments?

Link
http://www.ssca.org/sscabb/index.php...m=8&topic=2341

Mic 67

Richard J Kinch May 23rd 06 10:03 AM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
Mic writes:

Any comments?


Desulfation is easily accomplished by controlled overcharging, which is a
feature of many smart chargers.

Look, they're called EDISON batteries. True innovations are rare in
technologies that old.

Keith May 23rd 06 01:58 PM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
I use a similar one and they work great. I've picked up batteries from
the trash heap and brought them back to like new. The smaller the
pulser, the longer it takes through. There are lots of options out
there. I keep one on my battery banks all the time now.


Jeff May 23rd 06 02:33 PM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
Mic wrote:
http://www.pulsegenetech.co.jp/en/what/index.html

NANOPULSER is an Electronic Desulfator Device that conditions your
battery for better performance.

....

Any comments?


I don't know about this particular device, but based on the
recommendation of a friend with 25 years of live aboard experience,
I've had one of the gadgets on my boat since it was new and have never
had a sulphation problem in seven years of hard use.

I never heard a claim that they don't work, though I have heard a few
say the keeping a battery well charged works just as well.

Offbreed May 24th 06 05:22 PM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 

Jeff wrote:

I never heard a claim that they don't work, though I have heard a few
say the keeping a battery well charged works just as well.


All I've heard reminded me of snake oil and thousand mile carb's, so
I've ignored them. Worth buying after all, eh?


Jeff May 24th 06 10:12 PM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
Offbreed wrote:
Jeff wrote:


I never heard a claim that they don't work, though I have heard a few
say the keeping a battery well charged works just as well.



All I've heard reminded me of snake oil and thousand mile carb's, so
I've ignored them. Worth buying after all, eh?

I'd rather spend a few bucks on a desulphator than equalize once or
twice a season. It seems like its gentler on the batteries, though I
really don't know.

Larry May 25th 06 03:38 AM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
(Mic) wrote in :

Any comments?



Wow! Must be magic!.....(c;


I wonder how it picks up lead sulphate crystals from the bilge of the
battery (where there's no electrical connection to them, whatsoever) and
converts a VERY stable lead salt back into acid and lead ions...??

Must come with some kind of chemical plant and a battery bilge pump...(c;

Reminds me of people throwing aspirin tables into the vents....

I'm still puzzled how advertising overcomes chemistry.


Larry May 25th 06 03:46 AM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
Richard J Kinch wrote in
:

Look, they're called EDISON batteries. True innovations are rare in
technologies that old.


"Edison Batteries" are Nickel-Iron-Potassium Hydroxide batteries.

No innovation is needed. I used to have some that were 30 years old out of
an old telephone system. No deterioration like lead-acid cells from
sulphate crystals....

http://www.ieee-virtual-museum.org/c...=2345874&lid=1

The fork lift industry used them before the EPA stepped in and worried
about the nickel pollution so much it made them too expensive to use.
Without the soft lead plates, with plates made of much harder metals, they
survived banging around in fork lift trucks much better than soft lead.

Today all the lift batteries are lead, so you can replace them often...like
boats.


Richard J Kinch May 25th 06 09:01 PM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
Larry writes:

Look, they're called EDISON batteries. True innovations are rare in
technologies that old.


"Edison Batteries" are Nickel-Iron-Potassium Hydroxide batteries.


I stand corrected. Practical lead-acid predates even Edison.

Larry May 26th 06 12:02 AM

Electronic Desulfator Device
 
Mys Terry wrote in
:

Reproducing via sex predates Edison too. Still works pretty well.



One of my finest comments was made to some kind of curator bureaucrat at
the Smithsonian Institute, in response to his question of what I thought of
his exhibit of Edison, Smithsonian's fair-haired American boy.

"I find it ironic that the Institute would illuminate the Edison exhibit
with Tesla's flourescent lighting, from Tesla's ballast transformers, off
Tesla's AC power system.", I told him. "I think the whole building should
be running off your boy Edison's DC power system from an Edison DC
generator station behind the building."

Smithsonian had refused a bronze bust of Tesla from some elementary school
children in the midwest, at the time. Their teacher and class give Tesla
busts to almost any museum who will display it, properly. Smithsonian
tries to ignore Tesla, entirely.

All this about Edison was makes me want to puke.....

The exhibit also had an electric wall clock showing visitors what time it
was. It used a Tesla synchronous AC motor off Tesla's multiphase AC power
system, too, but I failed to make a point of it...(c;

Well, we digress off subject, again. It wasn't my fault this time....



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