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Garland Gray II March 7th 06 03:16 AM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
I have bought from a supplier some anchor chain that supposedly is Acco hi
test G4.

Now I have to wonder, since I didn't see the drum it came from, how do I
know that it is indeed hi test, much less Acco ? I spoke w/ Acco, wondering
if I could send them a short length for inspection or even testing. I was
assured by Acco that if it had "G4" stamped on each link, which it does, it
was Acco chain. Hi test chain from other mfg would have a different marking.

Somehow that alone doesn't convince me. Years ago there were examples of
flagrant Tiawanese copies of US marine items. The "G4" stamp on my chain
looks somewhat erratic, which is what first troubled me.

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?



Wayne.B March 7th 06 04:02 AM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 22:16:53 -0500, "Garland Gray II"
wrote:

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?


http://www.1st-chainsupply.com/chain...lass_chain.htm

1st chain supply will sell you a 1 foot sample for $10, which you
could compare with yours. G40 is HT chain.

Other than that, you are going to need a load tester. G40 breaks at
something over 15,000 lbs.




Glenn Ashmore March 7th 06 12:45 PM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
Garland, All G40 is stamped "G4", "HT-4" or "M" on each link with G4 being
the most common so that is not an indication that it is ACCO. Theoretically
mislabeling chain is a Federal offence so if you bought it from a reasonably
reputable dealer it probably is G40. Even the Chinese HT will be very close
in strength to US brands but the galvanizing might not hold up as well.

I picked up a number of samples when I was considering adding chain to my
inventory. (To much hassle and to little profit.) The only difference I
have found between ACCO, Campbell, Feeney and a couple of imports is that
the ACCO has slightly better galvanizing. The stamping on all appears to be
in about the same place on each link but the extra galvanizing on the ACCO
makes the stamp a look little blurred compared to the others.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:GW6Pf.2494$3k1.345@dukeread03...
I have bought from a supplier some anchor chain that supposedly is Acco hi
test G4.

Now I have to wonder, since I didn't see the drum it came from, how do I
know that it is indeed hi test, much less Acco ? I spoke w/ Acco,
wondering if I could send them a short length for inspection or even
testing. I was assured by Acco that if it had "G4" stamped on each link,
which it does, it was Acco chain. Hi test chain from other mfg would have
a different marking.

Somehow that alone doesn't convince me. Years ago there were examples of
flagrant Tiawanese copies of US marine items. The "G4" stamp on my chain
looks somewhat erratic, which is what first troubled me.

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?




Garland Gray II March 8th 06 01:33 AM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
Thanks Glenn and Wayne

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:AffPf.482767$0l5.287106@dukeread06...
Garland, All G40 is stamped "G4", "HT-4" or "M" on each link with G4
being the most common so that is not an indication that it is ACCO.
Theoretically mislabeling chain is a Federal offence so if you bought it
from a reasonably reputable dealer it probably is G40. Even the Chinese
HT will be very close in strength to US brands but the galvanizing might
not hold up as well.

I picked up a number of samples when I was considering adding chain to my
inventory. (To much hassle and to little profit.) The only difference I
have found between ACCO, Campbell, Feeney and a couple of imports is that
the ACCO has slightly better galvanizing. The stamping on all appears to
be in about the same place on each link but the extra galvanizing on the
ACCO makes the stamp a look little blurred compared to the others.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Garland Gray II" wrote in message
news:GW6Pf.2494$3k1.345@dukeread03...
I have bought from a supplier some anchor chain that supposedly is Acco hi
test G4.

Now I have to wonder, since I didn't see the drum it came from, how do I
know that it is indeed hi test, much less Acco ? I spoke w/ Acco,
wondering if I could send them a short length for inspection or even
testing. I was assured by Acco that if it had "G4" stamped on each link,
which it does, it was Acco chain. Hi test chain from other mfg would have
a different marking.

Somehow that alone doesn't convince me. Years ago there were examples of
flagrant Tiawanese copies of US marine items. The "G4" stamp on my chain
looks somewhat erratic, which is what first troubled me.

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?






Evan Gatehouse March 8th 06 03:52 AM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
Garland Gray II wrote:
I have bought from a supplier some anchor chain that supposedly is Acco hi
test G4.

Now I have to wonder, since I didn't see the drum it came from, how do I
know that it is indeed hi test, much less Acco ? I spoke w/ Acco, wondering
if I could send them a short length for inspection or even testing. I was
assured by Acco that if it had "G4" stamped on each link, which it does, it
was Acco chain. Hi test chain from other mfg would have a different marking.

Somehow that alone doesn't convince me. Years ago there were examples of
flagrant Tiawanese copies of US marine items. The "G4" stamp on my chain
looks somewhat erratic, which is what first troubled me.

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?


Sure it's possible. When you buy drugs at the pharmacy, do you insist
on seeing the bottle the pills come out of?

Evan Gatehouse

Garland Gray II March 8th 06 11:53 PM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
Good point, but it would most likely be that you would have much less time
to react if your anchor chain failed to do its job than if your pills failed
to do their job !

I don't think we are talking about some one slipping in a cyanide pill.

"Evan Gatehouse" wrote in message
...
Garland Gray II wrote:
I have bought from a supplier some anchor chain that supposedly is Acco
hi test G4.

Now I have to wonder, since I didn't see the drum it came from, how do I
know that it is indeed hi test, much less Acco ? I spoke w/ Acco,
wondering if I could send them a short length for inspection or even
testing. I was assured by Acco that if it had "G4" stamped on each link,
which it does, it was Acco chain. Hi test chain from other mfg would have
a different marking.

Somehow that alone doesn't convince me. Years ago there were examples of
flagrant Tiawanese copies of US marine items. The "G4" stamp on my chain
looks somewhat erratic, which is what first troubled me.

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?


Sure it's possible. When you buy drugs at the pharmacy, do you insist on
seeing the bottle the pills come out of?

Evan Gatehouse




Jere Lull March 26th 06 03:05 AM

Hi test anchor chain ??
 
In article ,
Evan Gatehouse wrote:

I don't know how I can know for sure whether my chain is indeed hi test
(other than testing a sample).

Has anyone else had this doubt ?


Sure it's possible. When you buy drugs at the pharmacy, do you insist
on seeing the bottle the pills come out of?


No, but that's because the pharmacist can have very nasty things happen
to THEM if they make a mistake. I HAVE asked to see the datasheet,
though. (That was before they started printing up the datasheet
individually.)

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/


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