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krj March 3rd 06 08:20 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
Why would someone blindly navigate by GPS in a marked channel and run on
the rocks. If you look at Chart 11468 there are R10 and G11 clearly
marking the channel just east of the point where he crashed into the jetty.
krj

POSTED: 11:16 pm EST March 2, 2006
UPDATED: 8:52 am EST March 3, 2006

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -- The U.S. Coast Guard rescued four men whose boat
crashed into the jetty at Government Cut Thursday evening.

Shawn Hamby, of the U.S. Coast Guard, said the 23-foot vessel apparently
went airborne and landed on the rocks. The Coast Guard responded within
six minutes of the crash.

Images

"The vessel was up on the rocks and was tilted (vertically)," Hamby said.

The Coast Guard said the captain of the boat misread his GPS
navigational device and crashed into the north side of the jetty while
trying to enter Government Cut.

"I can't honestly say (how fast they were going). They were going fast
enough to get up on the rocks. That's all I can say," Hamby said.

One of the two boaters who were taken to Jackson Memorial Hospital had
facial injuries.

"He had an eye injury, and it really just wasn't good," Hamby said.

The two men who were taken to the hospital were in stable condition
Thursday evening.

Miami-Dade County police and the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
Commission were investigating how the crash occurred.

Coast Guard officials said the men did not appear to be intoxicated, NBC
6's Tom Llamas reported.

purple_stars March 3rd 06 11:09 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:25:02 GMT, Mys Terry
said:

It doesn't sound like the GPS was even slightly at fault in this case.


Err...I don't think anyone suggested anywhere that the GPS itself was at
fault.


could have been the chart's datum ... (?)


Capt. JG March 3rd 06 11:58 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
Forget it Dave, this ?guy? isn't too bright.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:25:02 GMT, Mys Terry
said:

It doesn't sound like the GPS was even slightly at fault in this case.


Err...I don't think anyone suggested anywhere that the GPS itself was at
fault.




Glenn A. Heslop March 7th 06 05:11 AM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
This I don't understand. Don't people look outside when driving their boat?
I'd have thought in that area one would be keeping a sharp eye if for no
other reason that to avoid others navigating at high speed, also not looking
outside. Even if people believe their GPS, haven't they ever entered a
waypoint wrong?..oops. Got to take sightings, look for channel markets.
Not too tough really. Reminds me of a saying used alot in the upper Keys on
weekends with the folks from Miami come trooping down..."Have Money, Buy
Boat".

I know everyone screws up now and again, me included.

Glenn.
s/v Seawing
www.seawing.net


"purple_stars" wrote in message
oups.com...
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:25:02 GMT, Mys Terry
said:

It doesn't sound like the GPS was even slightly at fault in this case.


Err...I don't think anyone suggested anywhere that the GPS itself was at
fault.


could have been the chart's datum ... (?)




Bob March 7th 06 05:59 AM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 

Dave wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:57:34 GMT, Mys Terry
said:



Here's a little grammar quiz you should be able to answer if you
successfully completed grade school. Is the subject the gerund or the noun?


Hi Dave:
I am pained (most of us)
It pains me (Passive voice. Preferred voice used in scientific
publications).
Pained, I am (Yoda)

A heck............. diagramming sentences was a big waste of time. As
well as that fonex or was it phonic or phonix or..... Ah, heck lets
see:
C + at = cat
B + at = bat
R + at = rat
Then of course the pattern continues......
Wh + at = ? Oh, dont that spell "Whut?"

Oh, by the way In the sentence from the above post,

"...to answer if you successfully completed grade school...." I think
it should be "completed successfully" not "successfully competed."

A generation was corrupted by Star Trek. You know the phrase, To Boldly
Go. Should have read Go Boldly. Interesting thing this language we
use. It just keeps on changing. OH, and don't even think about trying
those folks who live in Morgan City, Sulfur, Venice, Fuchon.

"Come see. Come see," said the coon ass.

So lets be tolerant regarding other's word choice, voice, and
conventions.
Bob


Jeff March 7th 06 02:32 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
Bob wrote:
....


A generation was corrupted by Star Trek. You know the phrase, To Boldly
Go. Should have read Go Boldly. Interesting thing this language we
use. It just keeps on changing. OH, and don't even think about trying
those folks who live in Morgan City, Sulfur, Venice, Fuchon.

The rule that one shall not split infinitives is for Latin, not modern
English.

....



So lets be tolerant regarding other's word choice, voice, and
conventions.
Bob


Da Kine March 7th 06 05:11 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
Does hitting something meen hitting something?


Da Kine March 7th 06 08:22 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
I learned something. The guy was still a bonehead - agreed?


rhys March 8th 06 03:24 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:25:02 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:20:06 -0500, krj
wrote:

Why would someone blindly navigate by GPS in a marked channel and run on
the rocks. If you look at Chart 11468 there are R10 and G11 clearly
marking the channel just east of the point where he crashed into the jetty.
krj


It doesn't sound like the GPS was even slightly at fault in this case.


The kids today have a phrase called "owned". If you screw up a
situation entirely on your own, you are "owned". It may come out of
skateboard culture, where combining physics with cement offers plenty
of these type of opportunities.

Also of late, we have the concept of "The Darwin Awards", the winning
of which involves stupid behaviour that subtracts one from the gene
pool.

I propose, therefore, a new coinage of "Darwowned", which is a shout
one can give when one hears of the foolish meeting the deadly, such as
entering a harbour at speed, at night, via GPS.

I hope the "eye injury" was to the scrotum.

R.


prodigal1 March 8th 06 05:27 PM

relying on GPS leads to accidents
 
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:24:59 -0500, rhys wrote:

The kids today have a phrase called "owned". If you screw up a situation
entirely on your own, you are "owned". It may come out of skateboard
culture, where combining physics with cement offers plenty of these type
of opportunities.


not skateboarding but cracker culture
you're "owned" when someone gets root or administrator-level access to
your computer...usually without your knowledge...and begins to use your
machine for purposes not of your choosing

(and people wonder why smart people don't use Windows computers)



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