BoatBanter.com - Honda or Kipor (was) 500 W gensets

Brian,
As I stated before, the current QC in China is not very good, but those boys
scare the hell out of me. I went to the Chinese Industrial Fair in Canton
last year. It is run by the state, not publicly financed. It is policed by
the Army, not contracted security folks and EVERYBODY is having to attend
ISO 9000 classes. The problem we associate with Chinese gear is at least 50%
the problem of the quick buck reseller that has no intent of follow-on
customer service. The equipment is EXCELLENT for the price and spares ARE
available in China. If you find a reseller that is serious about service, it
is hard to go wrong. You can buy two for the price of one from the
competition. Now, here's the scary bit, they are making money at those
prices. They are not dumping!
Steve

"Brian D" wrote in message
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You ever notice that China and Crap start with the same letter? That's
not the only thing they have in common...

Brian D

"Steve Lusardi" wrote in message
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Skip,
There is a lot of market pressure on Honda and most of it is illegal
competition from China. (Copies) The Chinese machines may work perfectly,
but many do not, as thier QC is almost non-existant. The bigger problem
is that most of the resellers are not prepared to give either warranttee
or after sales service, because they do not order or stock spare parts.
You can save money, but before you buy you should make certain about
parts and service availability first.
Steve

"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
oups.com...
This thread's reappearance, and Larry's story about his genset in his
workvan reminds me that we're about to buy a 2000W honda as our backup
and shoreside work genset.

However, it appears that Kipor either OEMs the Honda EU gensets, or
someone else does for both of them, as I can see literally no
difference between them other than color - shape, buttons, outlets,
specs, you name it.

As Kipor makes a line of gensets that would do Northern Tool or Harbor
Freight proud, I am guessing that they're the maker.

So, has anyone had any experience with them? The bigger question,
really, is what about warranty? I'm assuming it would be easier to get
a Honda warranty exercised in the wild, but if it's like buying an
extended warranty on a major appliance (not worth it, cuz they never
break, statistically), perhaps it's of no moment.

So, the second question; among the Honda 1000 or 2000 owners, who's had
a warranty claim?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip, with limber holes resolved and on to windlass installation and
plumbing heads

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