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Pascal February 14th 06 12:06 AM

News About the Recent Egypcian Shipwreck
 
After lmore than 15 daysI was not able to read anithing more news about
this recent disaster in Red Sea. Anibody has news about this tragedy?
I am concerned about the 800 lifes lost and what was the cause of this
disaster, that is, the wreck hapened less than 50 nm from the coast,
after the engines are in fire; how she does not sent any Mayday, what
happens with the AIS/DSC aida? How could this happens in today days
of abundance of GMDSS technology?


Thomas Wentworth February 14th 06 12:55 AM

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I heard that the Captain was busy burning an American flag and the rest of
the crew was protesting cartoons.

Oh well....


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"Pascal" wrote in message
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After lmore than 15 daysI was not able to read anithing more news about
this recent disaster in Red Sea. Anibody has news about this tragedy?
I am concerned about the 800 lifes lost and what was the cause of this
disaster, that is, the wreck hapened less than 50 nm from the coast,
after the engines are in fire; how she does not sent any Mayday, what
happens with the AIS/DSC aida? How could this happens in today days
of abundance of GMDSS technology?




PrefersOffshore February 14th 06 03:05 PM

News About the Recent Egypcian Shipwreck
 
Try looking here.

http://listserv.v-net.org/cgi-bin/wa...602&L=marine-l


Pascal wrote:
After lmore than 15 daysI was not able to read anithing more news about
this recent disaster in Red Sea. Anibody has news about this tragedy?
I am concerned about the 800 lifes lost and what was the cause of this
disaster, that is, the wreck hapened less than 50 nm from the coast,
after the engines are in fire; how she does not sent any Mayday, what
happens with the AIS/DSC aida? How could this happens in today days
of abundance of GMDSS technology?



Pascal February 14th 06 07:28 PM

News About the Recent Egypcian Shipwreck
 
Thank You for the information; I found it vvery helpfull.

Regrads

Pascal


nobody February 15th 06 01:27 AM

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:55:06 GMT, "Thomas Wentworth"
wrote:

I heard that the Captain was busy burning an American flag and the rest of
the crew was protesting cartoons.

Oh well....


Rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off. Uh, oh! Have I insulted
the pedophile prophet by laughing?


Pascal February 15th 06 12:47 PM

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I had read some discussions, but appears that the investigation have
not begin; I have questions like:
a) Why the ship do not return to port after the engines fire was
detected?
b) Whya the ship have not send a mayday Call?
c) What was the cause of the fire?
d) How the wreck ocuured? Flooding from where? Capsize?
e) The maritime trafic on this region is not controled with
AIS/Inmarsat/Etc.?


PrefersOffshore February 15th 06 04:17 PM

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Sure thing. It appears the Captain chose to press on to destination
vs. come about in the sea condition that prevailed, despite fire on
board. Overall vessel condition was apparently poor on this ro/ro
ferry, and design not seaworthy for the seas she normally traversed in
this Red Sea routing if weather turned poor. Two additional decks
added after original build caused inherent loss of stability.
Overloaded with passengers (common with many ferries throughout the
world in daily operations) who fled the fire may have been enough
additonal instability to lead to the chain of events, rapidly bringing
her down. No confirmation yet of when Captain left the ship.

Prior service in Med was cut short after the Estonia incident gave
Euros reason to change design safety standards. I suppose some would
point finger at Western Europe for not scrapping this vessel, but
that's the way of the world it seems. There is alway a market as long
as she floats and mechanicals will allow her to make decent way.


Pascal wrote:
Thank You for the information; I found it vvery helpfull.

Regrads

Pascal



otnmbrd February 15th 06 04:32 PM

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Consider a fire on the vehicle deck. If they fought that fire with the use
of large amounts of water and no consideration to getting that water clear
of the deck then the potential loss of stability due to free surface effect
would be considerable.

nobody February 16th 06 02:44 AM

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:

Hey! It was an Egyptian ship. They thought Allah, the pedophile
prophet, would take care of them.

Gogarty February 16th 06 10:59 PM

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In article ,
says...


:

Hey! It was an Egyptian ship. They thought Allah, the pedophile
prophet, would take care of them.


I don't think you fully comprehend how seriously nasty these people can
be when they feel affronted. Ask Salman Rushdie.


PrefersOffshore February 17th 06 02:08 PM

News About the Recent Egypcian Shipwreck
 

otnmbrd wrote:
Consider a fire on the vehicle deck. If they fought that fire with the use
of large amounts of water and no consideration to getting that water clear
of the deck then the potential loss of stability due to free surface effect
would be considerable.


An important factor at 60 pounds per cu. ft.

We can rest assured that when the Panamanians fully investigate, the
cause will be attributed primarily to human error. She passed all
recent inspections, you know, and these guys have thousands of vessels
under their flag, so they really know the score!



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