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Donald Camps January 2nd 06 01:39 AM

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If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...



krj January 2nd 06 01:47 AM

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Donald Camps wrote:

If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...


In Florida, you must have a state registration but no numbers on the
bow. The registration sticker goes on the port window.
krj

[email protected] January 2nd 06 02:06 AM

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Florida: State decal only, one, port side of vessel.

Illinois: State decals only

http://ws1.coopfish.siu.edu/Stat_rul/ILLREG.htm

A vessel that is covered by a valid marine document must display
current expiration decals, but is exempt from the requirement to
display an Illinois registration number.

Note: For Federally documented vessels, the Illinois registration
decals are to be displayed on either side of the Federally documented
name of the vessel.


Tamaroak January 2nd 06 04:21 PM

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In Wisconsin you have to pay the tax and display the two decals on the
transom, one on each side. You don't have to display any numbers.

And if you have three boats (dinghies included) you get a fleet rate on
your annual registration!

Capt, Jeff

Capt. JG January 2nd 06 05:12 PM

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"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:39:55 GMT, "Donald Camps"
wrote:

If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state
registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...


Many states require you to "register" a documented boat with the state,
but no
state can require a registration number that must be displayed as they do
with a
boat that is not federally documented. They may require a decal showing
that
you have paid the state taxes and fees.



So, what you're saying is that you don't know anything about IL and FL.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 3rd 06 01:33 AM

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Still stalking me I see....

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:12:48 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:39:55 GMT, "Donald Camps"

wrote:

If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state
registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...


Many states require you to "register" a documented boat with the state,
but no
state can require a registration number that must be displayed as they
do
with a
boat that is not federally documented. They may require a decal showing
that
you have paid the state taxes and fees.



So, what you're saying is that you don't know anything about IL and FL.


Jon,

Your behavior, which might be acceptable in some other forums is not
acceptable
here. If you can't be a positive contributor, please go away. The question
asked
did not require knowledge of any state in particular, since FEDERAL law
says
that NO state can require you to display state registration numbers on a
federally documented vessel. It doesn't matter which state. Get it?

Who took your captains test for you?


Commodore Joe Redcloud




Capt. JG January 3rd 06 01:53 AM

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Like I said, you're a know liar who needs psycholocial help asap.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:33:15 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Still stalking me I see....


Um... I think you have things a bit backwards. I have been participating
in this
forum for a very long time. You seem to have followed me here from
somewhere
else with the intent of disrupting yet another good newsgroup with your
weirdness.


"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:12:48 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:39:55 GMT, "Donald Camps"

wrote:

If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state
registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...


Many states require you to "register" a documented boat with the
state,
but no
state can require a registration number that must be displayed as they
do
with a
boat that is not federally documented. They may require a decal
showing
that
you have paid the state taxes and fees.



So, what you're saying is that you don't know anything about IL and FL.

Jon,

Your behavior, which might be acceptable in some other forums is not
acceptable
here. If you can't be a positive contributor, please go away. The
question
asked
did not require knowledge of any state in particular, since FEDERAL law
says
that NO state can require you to display state registration numbers on a
federally documented vessel. It doesn't matter which state. Get it?

Who took your captains test for you?


Commodore Joe Redcloud



Commodore Joe Redcloud




Capt. JG January 3rd 06 06:50 PM

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"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:53:52 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Like I said, you're a known liar who needs psycholocial help asap.


Sure, Jon.


I'm glad you agree. If you need me to recommend someone, let me know.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jim Richardson January 5th 06 10:00 PM

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:12:48 -0800,
Capt. JG wrote:
"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:39:55 GMT, "Donald Camps"
wrote:

If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state
registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...


Many states require you to "register" a documented boat with the state,
but no
state can require a registration number that must be displayed as they do
with a
boat that is not federally documented. They may require a decal showing
that
you have paid the state taxes and fees.



So, what you're saying is that you don't know anything about IL and FL.



Are you implying that IL and FL require registration numbers be
displayed on USCG documented vessels?


--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
They may call it 'ant and roach spray' but it sure does a number on
birds if you spray them with it long enough.

Capt. JG January 5th 06 11:13 PM

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"Jim Richardson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:12:48 -0800,
Capt. JG wrote:
"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 01:39:55 GMT, "Donald Camps"

wrote:

If a boat is documented by the USCG...do you also need a state
registration
and numbers posted on the bow.......Thanks in advance for your
reply.........States in question are Illinois nad Florida...


Many states require you to "register" a documented boat with the state,
but no
state can require a registration number that must be displayed as they
do
with a
boat that is not federally documented. They may require a decal showing
that
you have paid the state taxes and fees.



So, what you're saying is that you don't know anything about IL and FL.



Are you implying that IL and FL require registration numbers be
displayed on USCG documented vessels?

Jim,

Sorry, no data...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wayne.B January 6th 06 12:52 AM

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On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:00:56 -0800, Jim Richardson
wrote:

Are you implying that IL and FL require registration numbers be
displayed on USCG documented vessels?


======================================

No numbers, just decals/stickers. It's the same amost everywhere.
About the only thing that changes between states is the number of
stickers and display location. Sometimes the state registration
number is on the sticker in tiny type.


Wayne.B January 6th 06 04:29 AM

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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 02:14:01 GMT, Commodore Joe Redcloud
wrote:

Sorry, Wayne but that's not quite accurate. Federal law dictates that NO state
can require you to post state registration numbers. No exceptions. Your
documentation number is the only "registration" number, and it is not posted on
the outside of the boat. If there is a serial number on a certificate of decal
issued by a state, it is not a registration number.


=========================================

Well you are at least half right on that one, possibly 100%. I just
took my flashlight and walked down to the dock. My 24 ft cuddy is
registered with Florida and the number on the bottom of the sticker
corresponds with the reg numbers beginning with FL, same thing with
the dinghy. The GB49 is documented, and has a series of numbers on
the bottom of the sticker beginning with a "D". Tomorrow I will
check to see if the numbers on the sticker match up with my doc
number. Stay tuned.


Wayne.B January 6th 06 08:10 PM

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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:43:56 GMT, Commodore Joe Redcloud©
wrote:

"(BUT NOT NUMBERED)"

How hard is that to understand?


============================

It's a pretty fine hair to split when the required state sticker does
in fact have a number on it. The number must mean something to
somebody even if it's not technically a "registration" number.


Keith Hughes January 7th 06 04:42 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:43:56 GMT, Commodore Joe Redcloud©
wrote:


"(BUT NOT NUMBERED)"

How hard is that to understand?



============================

It's a pretty fine hair to split when the required state sticker does
in fact have a number on it. The number must mean something to
somebody even if it's not technically a "registration" number.


Not a fine line at all, to me at least. It means I don't have to have 3"
numbers on the port and starboard bow *in addition too* the small
sticker. Looking around SD bay, you can tell the documented boats a
mile away...they don't have big numbers plastered all over them.

Keith Hughes

Keith Hughes January 8th 06 01:08 AM

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Commodore Joe Redcloud wrote:

Many people get their boat documented for that reason alone. It's a one time
expense that keeps all that large block letter junk off the sides of the boat.
Can you imagine the uproar if people had to do that to their Lexus or Jaguar?


Lexus or Jaguar hell. I don't want that on my boat, *or* my
Volkswagens! :-)

Keith Hughes


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