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![]() "Roger Long" wrote in message ... I would certainly agree with 10 years in salt water although very few people actually do. I can't remember seeing or hearing of a dismasted coastal cruiser. Any Great Lakes or other fresh water owners have recommendations or dismastings to report? -- Roger Long Not answering your question - but attempting to put another dimension into the discussion - Most failures on properly designed rigs are due to metal fatigue (agreed, often initiated by tiny corrosion weaknesses). So surely the prudent timing of rig replacement will depend on the degree to which the rig is over-designed? A point often ignored by insurers. A European example which I know of is the difference between a 40ft Oyster and a 40ft Beneteau, both built around 1990, with nearly identical masts. All the Oyster's main rigging was 10mm, with intermediates of 8mm. The Beneteau used 8mm with 6mm intermediates. The Oyster was advertised as a 'round the worlder', the other as a 'performance cruiser'. My (unthinking) reaction would be to life the Beneteau rigging at around 10 years, and give the Oyster nearly twice that. But then the mean streak in me came out. Instead I instituted a regime of annual *close* inspection (most of the suitable techniques have been aired already). Bottlescrew crack? See if there's an obvious cause of the fault; if you can't find a cause, replace them all. Strand gone? Search for obvious causes; if none, replace all similarly stressed wires. Under this regime all the Beneteau rigging was replaced between 8 and 12 years old (inner forestay twice). Most replacements were initiated by strand failures at the bottom swage. The Oyster changed a forestay at 10 years (yard damage bent the stay when the mast was lowered, cracking a strand at the upper swage) and the backstay sustained damage on a yacht lift. The inner forestay was replaced twice - cracks at the lower swage. All bottlescrews replaced. 25 years so far for caps and intermediates . . . I think the new owner is replacing these for long term peace of mind! I'm aware that the Oyster was about twice the displacement of the Beneteau, so the inertia stresses on the Beneteau rigging would have been higher (all that bouncing around!). So perhaps my assumption about overdesign has been amplified in this case. Whatever, my conclusions a 1. Nothing beats annual *close* inspection for checking rig safety 2. Corrosion initiates many failures (bottom swage faults most common) 3. Your chances of suffering a fault are much higher on more highly stressed rigs 4. The 'life' of a rig can be very long indeed if it is understressed (under-use or overdesign) So, thinking about all the rain we have in W Europe, my opinion (untested) is that the fresh water issue is probably secondary compared to the design issue. JimB |