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[email protected] December 9th 05 03:46 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?


Lord Reginald Smithers December 9th 05 04:02 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
The 2nd ones were transplanted from NYC.


wrote in message
oups.com...
I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?




[email protected] December 9th 05 04:48 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
As a charter skipper and cruising instructor, the only time tips are
suggested is during skippered charters.

Jack Dale


On 8 Dec 2005 19:46:32 -0800, "
wrote:

I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?


Capt. JG December 9th 05 08:01 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
wrote in message
...
As a charter skipper and cruising instructor, the only time tips are
suggested is during skippered charters.

Jack Dale


On 8 Dec 2005 19:46:32 -0800, "
wrote:

I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?


I agree. I've never tipped on a bare-boat, but I have received tips as the
skipper on a paid charter.

It would have to be something quite extraordinary for me to consider tipping
one of the workers. However, I have sent letters of praise on occasion.

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"j" ganz @@
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Dennis Pogson December 9th 05 10:45 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...
As a charter skipper and cruising instructor, the only time tips are
suggested is during skippered charters.

Jack Dale


On 8 Dec 2005 19:46:32 -0800, "
wrote:

I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might
be interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several
years of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the
charter operations. Execution at some has been better than others,
but I never felt like anyone did something other than what was
appropriate for the situation.

Comments anyone?


I agree. I've never tipped on a bare-boat, but I have received tips
as the skipper on a paid charter.

It would have to be something quite extraordinary for me to consider
tipping one of the workers. However, I have sent letters of praise on
occasion.


Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over into the charter
business.



Glenn Ashmore December 9th 05 12:15 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
I have never heard any suggestion that I tip charter company employees.
Most charters leave enough left over food and booze for a good party. :-)
I do carry along a bunch of Spade Anchor T-shirts and give them out to dock
personnel but I consider that good advertising.

--
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there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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wrote in message
oups.com...
I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?




Marc O. December 9th 05 12:22 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
wrote:

I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?


Usually one doesn't give tips with bareboat charters. In case of skippered or
crewed charters though, it is common to give tips up to 10% of the total
charter amount if you are happy with the service received. In the end it is up
to you whether or not, and how much, to tip.

Marc Onrust
MarineYacht, Worldwide Yachtcharters
www.marineyacht.com

Marc Onrust December 9th 05 12:27 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Marc O. wrote:

wrote:

I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?


Usually one doesn't give tips with bareboat charters. In case of skippered or
crewed charters though, it is common to give tips up to 10% of the total
charter amount if you are happy with the service received. In the end it is up
to you whether or not, and how much, to tip.

Marc Onrust
MarineYacht, Worldwide Yachtcharters
www.marineyacht.com


Forgot to mention, but probably it was obvious already: the tip goes to your
skipper/crew.

Cheers,
Marc
MarineYacht, Worldwide Yachtcharters
www.marineyacht.com

Don White December 9th 05 02:12 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...

As a charter skipper and cruising instructor, the only time tips are
suggested is during skippered charters.

Jack Dale


On 8 Dec 2005 19:46:32 -0800, "
wrote:


I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?



I agree. I've never tipped on a bare-boat, but I have received tips as the
skipper on a paid charter.

It would have to be something quite extraordinary for me to consider tipping
one of the workers. However, I have sent letters of praise on occasion.


A good friend of mine worked as a charter skipper in the BVI for a
number of years. He always appreciated tips and especially when he was
left the surplus high end food after a charter. He was living high on
the hog for a few days.

Capt. JG December 9th 05 05:58 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...
As a charter skipper and cruising instructor, the only time tips are
suggested is during skippered charters.

Jack Dale


On 8 Dec 2005 19:46:32 -0800, "
wrote:

I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might
be interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several
years of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the
charter operations. Execution at some has been better than others,
but I never felt like anyone did something other than what was
appropriate for the situation.

Comments anyone?


I agree. I've never tipped on a bare-boat, but I have received tips
as the skipper on a paid charter.

It would have to be something quite extraordinary for me to consider
tipping one of the workers. However, I have sent letters of praise on
occasion.


Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over into the charter
business.


Oh great....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG December 9th 05 06:00 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message
...

As a charter skipper and cruising instructor, the only time tips are
suggested is during skippered charters.

Jack Dale


On 8 Dec 2005 19:46:32 -0800, "
wrote:


I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?



I agree. I've never tipped on a bare-boat, but I have received tips as
the skipper on a paid charter.

It would have to be something quite extraordinary for me to consider
tipping one of the workers. However, I have sent letters of praise on
occasion.


A good friend of mine worked as a charter skipper in the BVI for a number
of years. He always appreciated tips and especially when he was left the
surplus high end food after a charter. He was living high on the hog for
a few days.


Alas, my charter work is all day work... sometimes there is food left over
or beer/wine.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scotty December 9th 05 09:06 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over into

the charter
business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV



[email protected] December 9th 05 09:15 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Thanks all. Yes, I'd certainly tip skipper/crew if I were to do a
crewed charter or the skipper on the lead boat of a flotilla. And yes,
I always leave the yummy commestibles and whatever beer/wine might be
left.

I was surprised - sounds like everyone else was too. Thanks for your
thoughtful responses.


Capt. JG December 9th 05 10:17 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
I can say categorically that I have never been on one of those
monstrosities.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over into

the charter
business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV





Scotty December 9th 05 10:52 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
We're going on one in June.

SBV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I can say categorically that I have never been on one of those
monstrosities.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over

into
the charter
business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV







Capt. JG December 9th 05 11:47 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Where to?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
We're going on one in June.

SBV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I can say categorically that I have never been on one of those
monstrosities.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over

into
the charter
business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV









Rosalie B. December 10th 05 02:01 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
"Scotty" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over into

the charter
business.

I don't think this is it - I've seen tip jars on snorkeling cruises,
and at the counters of buffet type restaurants. And people used to
tip the gas jockeys at the service stations.

Oh great....

Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV

Depends on what you think of as a lot. In the old days the cabin
stewards and the dining room personnel were tipped on the last day of
the cruise. We have been on two cruises, and we were
expected/required to give $10/day/person, and in addition, the things
you got from the bar or treatments at the spa etc were separate tips
and/or a mandatory service charge.

grandma Rosalie

Scotty December 10th 05 03:57 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
The Triangle.

SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Where to?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
We're going on one in June.

SBV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I can say categorically that I have never been on one of

those
monstrosities.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping

over
into
the charter
business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV











Jonathan Ganz December 10th 05 07:03 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
In article ,
Scotty wrote:
The Triangle.

SV


Well, as long as you know what to expect, I'm sure you'll have a great
time.




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Terry Spragg December 10th 05 04:19 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Scotty wrote:
We're going on one in June.
SBV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...


I can say categorically that I have never been on one of those
monstrosities.


"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


As a musician, I know a musician who was on a cruise ship. A blues
wailer, and picker, he worked 8 hours of music every day, conducted
lifeboat drills, made beds, moved laundry, and bussed rooms for
another 8. He was on call at any time. His boss decided if he
needed sleep. No sex, no dope, no drink, no shore leave, so his
money didn't last long once back shoreside, and he'll never do it again.

Why tip him? Or any one pressed to such extremity?

Your Caddy?

Tips Insure Prompt Service.

Chambermaids, like my brother's x, depend on tips to pay the
babysitters.

Why make life any easier for these uppity foreigner house servants?

To give them someone to admire, emulate? So they can afford a
college education? A mechanic's course?

A parts guy computer operator training session or two?

High paying jobs are a necessity, if our world is to prosper.

Can you afford it?

Live long.

Terry K



"Scotty" wrote in message
.. .

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over


into the charter business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?
SBV



Bryan December 10th 05 04:46 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote

Perhaps some of the cruise ship habits are creeping over into

the charter
business.


Oh great....


Is there a lot of tipping expected on a cruise ship?

SBV



Scott,

You need to visit rec.travel.cruises.
Search out their FAQ, read it, then ask away.
It's a very helpful group for cruise ship travel information.

Bryan



Scotty December 10th 05 06:00 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 

"Terry Spragg" wrote

As a musician, I know a musician who was on a cruise ship. A

blues
wailer, and picker, he worked 8 hours of music every day,

conducted
lifeboat drills, made beds, moved laundry, and bussed rooms for
another 8. He was on call at any time. His boss decided if he
needed sleep. No sex, no dope, no drink, no shore leave, so his
money didn't last long once back shoreside, and he'll never do

it again.

Why tip him? Or any one pressed to such extremity?



I agree. It's not my fault he has a crummy job.



Your Caddy?


Don't golf.



Tips Insure Prompt Service.



Not always.



To give them someone to admire, emulate? So they can afford a
college education?



I'm put my own kids, and wife, through college. Where's my
tips?


SBV



Jonathan Ganz December 10th 05 08:59 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
In article ,
Terry Spragg wrote:
Scotty wrote:
We're going on one in June.
SBV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...


I can say categorically that I have never been on one of those
monstrosities.


"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


As a musician, I know a musician who was on a cruise ship. A blues
wailer, and picker, he worked 8 hours of music every day, conducted
lifeboat drills, made beds, moved laundry, and bussed rooms for
another 8. He was on call at any time. His boss decided if he
needed sleep. No sex, no dope, no drink, no shore leave, so his
money didn't last long once back shoreside, and he'll never do it again.

Why tip him? Or any one pressed to such extremity?


Er, umm... we were talking about tipping the charter company crew.

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Jim Cate December 13th 05 05:10 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
Depending on how far you have to drive/fly to get to the ship, it's
probably one of the best family vacations available IMO. Not as great as
going out on our 26M, but where else are you going to get an
all-inclusive vacation including room, all meals, snacks, etc.,
entertainment (Vegas/broadway-type shows, classical music groups,
lectures), casino, running track with 360 degree ocean views, spa/gym
facilities, comfortable chairs for reading, sunsets/sunrises in the
Caribbean, transportation to ports in a tropical climate, etc., for
about $650 pp weekly, including taxes, tips, and port charges. Meals
selected from several options, including four-course meals ordered from
a varying menu (lobster, lamb, steaks or prime rib done medium rare or
to your preference). Room service, dishes washed, room and linens
cleaned, no grocery shopping, no fuel expenses, plus, they returned us
on time and in good shape the following weekend. - This is from our
experience on a cruise my wife and I took earlier this month (Carnival)
from Galveston to Jamaica, Grand Cayman, and Cozumel. On several days
we had 40-50 knot head winds and 10-12 foot waves in the Gulf, and it
was nice to be able to slip into a warm bed at night and let the captain
worry about navigation, etc. Ports offered attractions such as scuba
diving, touring, exploring historical sites, etc., though at additional
cost.

Jim


Capt. JG wrote:

I can say categorically that I have never been on one of those
monstrosities.





Jonathan Ganz December 13th 05 10:32 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
In article ,
Jim Cate wrote:
Depending on how far you have to drive/fly to get to the ship, it's
probably one of the best family vacations available IMO. Not as great as
going out on our 26M, but where else are you going to get an


You lie! Your MacCrapM is highly superior to a cruise liner and can go
forever without using the engine.

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Jere Lull December 14th 05 02:49 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
In article 4zemf.8331$fz5.7590@dukeread04,
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote:

I have never heard any suggestion that I tip charter company
employees. Most charters leave enough left over food and booze for a
good party. :-)


That was the main reason we started self-provisioning, though we rarely
have had leftover booze, or Ting.

I do carry along a bunch of Spade Anchor T-shirts and give them out
to dock personnel but I consider that good advertising.


That's a great idea!

--
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Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jim Cate December 15th 05 02:53 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article ,
Jim Cate wrote:


Depending on how far you have to drive/fly to get to the ship, it's
probably one of the best family vacations available IMO. Not as great as
going out on our 26M, but where else are you going to get an



You lie! Your MacCrapM is highly superior to a cruise liner and can go
forever without using the engine.


As I said, a cruise ship vacation isn't as great as going out on our Mac
26M, but it's a good family vacation, particularly with 40-knot
headwinds and 10-foot waves. (You need to put your glasses on and read
the notes a little more slowly before you spout off like that Johnny.)

Jim

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"Depending on how far you have to drive/fly to get to the ship, it's
probably one of the best family vacations available IMO. Not as great as
going out on our 26M, but where else are you going to get an
all-inclusive vacation including room, all meals, snacks, etc.,
entertainment (Vegas/broadway-type shows, classical music groups,
lectures), casino, running track with 360 degree ocean views, spa/gym
facilities, comfortable chairs for reading, sunsets/sunrises in the
Caribbean, transportation to ports in a tropical climate, etc., for
about $650 pp weekly, including taxes, tips, and port charges. Meals
selected from several options, including four-course meals ordered from
a varying menu (lobster, lamb, steaks or prime rib done medium rare or
to your preference). Room service, dishes washed, room and linens
cleaned, no grocery shopping, no fuel expenses, plus, they returned us
on time and in good shape the following weekend. - This is from our
experience on a cruise my wife and I took earlier this month (Carnival)
from Galveston to Jamaica, Grand Cayman, and Cozumel. On several days
we had 40-50 knot head winds and 10-12 foot waves in the Gulf, and it
was nice to be able to slip into a warm bed at night and let the captain
worry about navigation, etc. Ports offered attractions such as scuba
diving, touring, exploring historical sites, etc., though at additional
cost."

Jim



Jonathan Ganz December 15th 05 03:11 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
In article ,
Jim Cate wrote:
You lie! Your MacCrapM is highly superior to a cruise liner and can go
forever without using the engine.


As I said, a cruise ship vacation isn't as great as going out on our Mac
26M, but it's a good family vacation, particularly with 40-knot
headwinds and 10-foot waves. (You need to put your glasses on and read
the notes a little more slowly before you spout off like that Johnny.)

Jim


Jimbo, please don't try and tell us that a your MacCrapM can't handle
measly 40 knot headwinds and 10 foot seas! Why that's just about the
most *perfect* sailing vacation there is!

Why I've heard tales of men chucking and women weeping before the cruise
liner even left the dock!

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"j" ganz @@
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Jim Cate December 15th 05 09:08 PM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
For a family vacation, my Mac couldn't match the 110,000-ton (Carnival)
Conquest. I have no hot tubs, no swiming pools, no casino, no Vegas
revues, no dining room, and no room service.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article ,
Jim Cate wrote:


You lie! Your MacCrapM is highly superior to a cruise liner and can go
forever without using the engine.




As I said, a cruise ship vacation isn't as great as going out on our Mac
26M, but it's a good family vacation, particularly with 40-knot
headwinds and 10-foot waves. (You need to put your glasses on and read
the notes a little more slowly before you spout off like that Johnny.)

Jim



Jimbo, please don't try and tell us that a your MacCrapM can't handle
measly 40 knot headwinds and 10 foot seas! Why that's just about the
most *perfect* sailing vacation there is!

Why I've heard tales of men chucking and women weeping before the cruise
liner even left the dock!





Jonathan Ganz December 16th 05 04:25 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 
In article ,
Jim Cate wrote:
For a family vacation, my Mac couldn't match the 110,000-ton (Carnival)
Conquest. I have no hot tubs, no swiming pools, no casino, no Vegas
revues, no dining room, and no room service.


No decent sailing vessel... ok, now I understand why you took the
cruise. Sorry for the confusion!

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A H FOSTER December 18th 05 01:34 AM

Bareboat Charter Tipping
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
I've chartered two sail boats in the last four months. In one case
there seemed to be no one who was angling for a tip. In the second
case, both the briefer and the boat cleaner seemed to think I might be
interested in leaving them with a gratuity. In the last several years
of chartering and crusing I've never tipped people at the charter
operations. Execution at some has been better than others, but I never
felt like anyone did something other than what was appropriate for the
situation.

Comments anyone?


I get tipped once in a while after a bareboat check out. But I never imply
or expect it.


Capt. Bill




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