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[email protected] December 5th 05 03:50 AM

Auto bilge pumps, why?
 
I know I musta asked this before but why does just about every sailboat
have an auto-bilge pump? Does this mean that almost ALL shaft packings
leak like a sieve? With most boats being hauled at least every two
years you'd think they'd repack em if they were a problem. Is it a
matter of access to the packing nut? I Cant be the only person who is
so lucky that in the 12 yrs I have had my boat that I have never needed
an auto-pump? 2 yrs ago, I repacked it but found the old packing that
was 20 yrs old was in great shape.
So.......if the problem is access to the packing nut being difficult,
why not put the packing gland on the outside of the hull so that
whenever she is hauled it could be tightened. It could even be
tightened by a diver. Maybe even have a backup on the inside. At
least eliminate the fear of a bad auto-switch causing boats to sink.


Gary December 5th 05 04:13 AM

Auto bilge pumps, why?
 
wrote:
I know I musta asked this before but why does just about every sailboat
have an auto-bilge pump? Does this mean that almost ALL shaft packings
leak like a sieve? With most boats being hauled at least every two
years you'd think they'd repack em if they were a problem. Is it a
matter of access to the packing nut? I Cant be the only person who is
so lucky that in the 12 yrs I have had my boat that I have never needed
an auto-pump? 2 yrs ago, I repacked it but found the old packing that
was 20 yrs old was in great shape.
So.......if the problem is access to the packing nut being difficult,
why not put the packing gland on the outside of the hull so that
whenever she is hauled it could be tightened. It could even be
tightened by a diver. Maybe even have a backup on the inside. At
least eliminate the fear of a bad auto-switch causing boats to sink.

It's for more than the stern gland. Leaky hose, siphoning exhaust/ head
or anything else. Even for leaky water tanks. I once saw a boat
with the cockpit drain sea-cocks shut and when it rained, the cockpit
was draining down into the boat. Thank goodness for an auto bilge pump.

The stern gland should only drip when the shaft is turning ideally.

Dennis Pogson December 5th 05 01:40 PM

Auto bilge pumps, why?
 
wrote:
I know I musta asked this before but why does just about every
sailboat have an auto-bilge pump? Does this mean that almost ALL
shaft packings leak like a sieve? With most boats being hauled at
least every two years you'd think they'd repack em if they were a
problem. Is it a matter of access to the packing nut? I Cant be the
only person who is so lucky that in the 12 yrs I have had my boat
that I have never needed an auto-pump? 2 yrs ago, I repacked it but
found the old packing that was 20 yrs old was in great shape.
So.......if the problem is access to the packing nut being difficult,
why not put the packing gland on the outside of the hull so that
whenever she is hauled it could be tightened. It could even be
tightened by a diver. Maybe even have a backup on the inside. At
least eliminate the fear of a bad auto-switch causing boats to sink.


It's just nice to go aboard a dry boat after a long spell away. Another
thing not to lose sleep over.



Jeff December 5th 05 02:10 PM

Auto bilge pumps, why?
 
wrote:
I know I musta asked this before but why does just about every sailboat
have an auto-bilge pump? Does this mean that almost ALL shaft packings
leak like a sieve? With most boats being hauled at least every two
years you'd think they'd repack em if they were a problem. Is it a
matter of access to the packing nut? I Cant be the only person who is
so lucky that in the 12 yrs I have had my boat that I have never needed
an auto-pump? 2 yrs ago, I repacked it but found the old packing that
was 20 yrs old was in great shape.
So.......if the problem is access to the packing nut being difficult,
why not put the packing gland on the outside of the hull so that
whenever she is hauled it could be tightened. It could even be
tightened by a diver. Maybe even have a backup on the inside. At
least eliminate the fear of a bad auto-switch causing boats to sink.

Most sinkings occur at the dock, most of those are caused by rain. I
have one hatch whose drain chronically gets clogged, so I make sure
its cleaned before big rain is expected.

The ironic thing is that while large boats may leak more, simply
because the have more possibilities of small leaks, they have so much
reserve that a small automatic bilge pump is more of a convenience
than necessity. Smaller boats have little reserve, and can easily be
taken down if a cockpit drain fills with a few leaves or some snow.

Terry Spragg December 7th 05 01:27 AM

Auto bilge pumps, why?
 
wrote:
I know I musta asked this before but why does just about every sailboat
have an auto-bilge pump? Does this mean that almost ALL shaft packings
leak like a sieve? With most boats being hauled at least every two
years you'd think they'd repack em if they were a problem. Is it a
matter of access to the packing nut? I Cant be the only person who is
so lucky that in the 12 yrs I have had my boat that I have never needed
an auto-pump? 2 yrs ago, I repacked it but found the old packing that
was 20 yrs old was in great shape.
So.......if the problem is access to the packing nut being difficult,
why not put the packing gland on the outside of the hull so that
whenever she is hauled it could be tightened. It could even be
tightened by a diver. Maybe even have a backup on the inside. At
least eliminate the fear of a bad auto-switch causing boats to sink.


Why spend any money on safety or assurance, or even insurance at all?

A lot of sailors are gold platers - gotta have everything,
especially anything justifyable as safety related, you know,
ballistic parachutes, etc.

Most are safety concerned, and value having means aboard to handle
forseeable events like the prop shaft just dissapearing out of the
boat, or a hose cracking, or a rock perforating the hull.

There is no panacea, so we take along Carter's little liver pills,
too, along with band aids and aspirin.

Mine has never been roused to anger, as they say. But the pump is
there, if ever it is needed, even if it only ends up being a minor
convenience. It's noise would wake up a drunk if water snuck in at
night. Wouldn't have it any other way.

Oh, aren't they a requirement?

Terry K



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